Frustration with Edison mounts in Sou...

Frustration with Edison mounts in South Bay

There are 31 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Feb 2, 2008, titled Frustration with Edison mounts in South Bay. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Phyllis Schumacher worked her way around the block one Sunday afternoon, going door to door until she'd taken inventory of her El Segundo neighborhood.

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maggy c

Kula, HI

#1 Feb 2, 2008
As a kid growing up the power virtually never failed. Now it has become a routine thing as Edison just does not give a s$%#. All they do is go to the PUC and keep getting rate hikes on everything. They have no real competition so why should they give a s%$^. Their execs are all overpaid just like all the chief city bureaucrats who don't have to answer to anyone either. And the elected officials just posture, but all they care about is staying in office and getting as much as they can. It's a great system. Ready for total collapse at any moment.
the Hawk

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Feb 2, 2008
Ready to collaps, yes, and we'll pay the price.
But we also know who the culprits were, these sly
perpetrators, or most of them at least.
maggy c wrote:
As a kid growing up the power virtually never failed. Now it has become a routine thing as Edison just does not give a s$%#. All they do is go to the PUC and keep getting rate hikes on everything. They have no real competition so why should they give a s%$^. Their execs are all overpaid just like all the chief city bureaucrats who don't have to answer to anyone either. And the elected officials just posture, but all they care about is staying in office and getting as much as they can. It's a great system. Ready for total collapse at any moment.
A different view

Houston, TX

#3 Feb 2, 2008
maggy c wrote:
As a kid growing up the power virtually never failed. Now it has become a routine thing as Edison just does not give a s$%#. All they do is go to the PUC and keep getting rate hikes on everything. They have no real competition so why should they give a s%$^. Their execs are all overpaid just like all the chief city bureaucrats who don't have to answer to anyone either. And the elected officials just posture, but all they care about is staying in office and getting as much as they can. It's a great system. Ready for total collapse at any moment.
Maggy, apparently you do not remember the California electrical customers revolting against the power company "monopolies". Deregulation is a major cause of the instability of our electrical system. Edison generates only a little bit of electricity now. They absolutely give a s#$t, and they are held accountable to their shareholders. That's how corporations work here in the United States. You can blame Gray Davis for the way their assets were unbundled, not the executives.
Ronald Reagan

United States

#4 Feb 2, 2008
Maybe is that "GREEN POWER" furnish to you via George Bush & "Dick" Chenny. deregulation all the way from Texas>
Ralph

Honolulu, HI

#5 Feb 2, 2008
Well, for one thing, we all can stop paying our bills for a month or two to wake them up and pay serious attention to the roots of our power problems!
Frank

Honolulu, HI

#6 Feb 2, 2008
We had a power outage from 2:00pm-7:00pm Christmas day! Not sure but it looked like Edison did not secure a power line they had been working on the week prior and it had disconnected creating a live wire situation. We've had another power outage since. Not good and almost the last straw...
Concerned

United States

#7 Feb 2, 2008
The article didn't mention that high power lines fell to the ground on Mariposa and at least one family pet was killed by the high votlage. This is an enormous safety issue!
Gene H Dreher

Manhattan Beach, CA

#8 Feb 2, 2008
So Edison let people down. What sort of performance contract do you have with Edison? You don't know, do you. I have surge protectors on all my vital equipment, do you? Did the solar cell contractor install such equipment on that poor woman's home?

And as far as the "deregulation" arguement goes, get real. Bureaucrats do as close to nothing as they can get away with. Expecting some unionized goverment employee to "protect" you is total folly based on their performance over the last few decades.

The power grid is stretched too thin. I think we have too much centralization in services. It makes us too vulnerable to disasters, natural and man made.

I like the idea of the Solar house. I'm considering doing that to my shack. But part of being "independent" is to protect yourself against other problems.

I think the woman with the solar house ought to talk to an attorney. And I think that if you don't have surge protectors on your importants stuff, you ought to install them.
TomFromPV

United States

#9 Feb 2, 2008
The surge protector doesn't help if the line goes from 120 to 240v. Thats what happened. If your fridge or HVAC were running at the time, the 240v burns out the motor. The same thing happened in PV some years back -- transformers were toasted which killed the TV, cordless phones, bulbs that were on etc. Edison gave us the depreciated amount rather than replace the goods they broke. Edison is too big and should be broken up into smaller units.
Hermosa Beach resident

Victorville, CA

#10 Feb 2, 2008
One day in October SCE came by our home to re-wire some underground wires for some reason. I came home to an electric fire and smoke in our home. Had to call fire department. They rigged up the wires with 220 volts throughout the house which caused the fire and burned out all appliances ,computer, hot tub, etc. Had to go through home owners policy and pay for the deductible. Good luck dealing with SCE. They would not take claims over the phone.
Prepared in ES

United States

#11 Feb 2, 2008
I had expensive surge protectors which protected some of my electronics and I still sustained $4000 of damage. Two of my neighbors had their surge protectors blow out which burned holes in their carpet. This was an enormous surge, some external and internal electrical surge protectors couldn't handle the load.

Lesson learned: Make sure your earthquake supplies are up to date: battery radio, flashlights, etc. This was a 17 hour rehearsal.
Heather

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Feb 2, 2008
My neighborhood suffered a power surge about 10 days before Christmas. Our oven, dishwasher, thermostat, 2 surge protectors, and various lightbulbs were destroyed. I had to repair/replace items at a cost of over $1300. Edision would not honor my claim, only passing the blame on to a homeowner whose palm tree fronds were the cause of the power surge. If Edison's policy is to not take responsibility for these "acts of nature," then it should require homeowners to maintain/remove trees that could cause damage to power lines.
TomFromPV

United States

#13 Feb 2, 2008
On the internet you can find "whole house" surge protectors that would protect you against SC Edison dumping 240 onto your 120 lines. These devices fit into the electrical service, cost $100s of bucks, and require an electrician. The wall plug-in types don't help against a screw-up by SCE though. The stories here make me think I should reconsider installing one of the expensive units. In short, SCE is acting like the monopoly they are. Hey, just wait until the govt gives you freeeeee healthcare!! Fools will vote for it, just watch!
Ronald Reagan

United States

#14 Feb 2, 2008
Maybe SCE Should turned the power off for a month and see how you panic. You never miss it until is gone ,right!
Gene H Dreher

Manhattan Beach, CA

#15 Feb 2, 2008
TomFromPV wrote:
On the internet you can find "whole house" surge protectors that would protect you against SC Edison dumping 240 onto your 120 lines. These devices fit into the electrical service, cost $100s of bucks, and require an electrician. The wall plug-in types don't help against a screw-up by SCE though. The stories here make me think I should reconsider installing one of the expensive units. In short, SCE is acting like the monopoly they are. Hey, just wait until the govt gives you freeeeee healthcare!! Fools will vote for it, just watch!
Gee Tom, I think you are right. The whole house thing looks like the tip, a couple of $100's and one could save a fortune. I think this is the type of situation that Granny's "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" describes.

I'm going to bet on more power problems not less in the future.
George Bullsh

Redondo Beach, CA

#16 Feb 2, 2008
It George W's fault...People need to get a life. Stop your whinning.
Rich Whiners

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Feb 2, 2008
The people in MB, El Segundo and PV have too much money and they've taken little tiny 1000 sq ft homes and built gigantic mansions. They're filled with plasma TVs and hot tubs. There's no question that they are causing their own problems. It's not Edison's fault.

Come over here to Gardena where the only problems we have are paying our bills. The power stays on because we don't have 5 50 inch TVs in every house. We haven't built 5000 sq ft McMansions.

MB, PV, and El Sequndo are simply harvesting what they've sown. Tuff Stuff.
Deregulation Failed

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Feb 2, 2008
Good God. Deregulation? Enron? Are you stupid?
Super Trooper

Houston, TX

#20 Feb 2, 2008
Deregulation Failed wrote:
Good God. Deregulation? Enron? Are you stupid?
WTF?!
the Hawk

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Feb 2, 2008
"If Edison's policy is to not take responsibility," said Heather, "for these 'acts of nature,' then it should require homeowners to maintain/remove trees that could cause damage to power lines."

Yes, they should. And what did the city have to say? That Edison has excellent and well-paid lawyers?
Heather wrote:
My neighborhood suffered a power surge about 10 days before Christmas. Our oven, dishwasher, thermostat, 2 surge protectors, and various lightbulbs were destroyed. I had to repair/replace items at a cost of over $1300. Edision would not honor my claim, only passing the blame on to a homeowner whose palm tree fronds were the cause of the power surge. If Edison's policy is to not take responsibility for these "acts of nature," then it should require homeowners to maintain/remove trees that could cause damage to power lines.

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