Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mathew629 wrote:
I think it's a sad day when a "Judge" can over take a majority vote, but still have swear before GOD to tell the truth. Are they not trying to be on both sides of the fence. Maybe there the ones in closet? Why does are money say in GOD we trust? Why is it every court room? HMMMMMM Where in the Bible does it say Adam and Steve? But it does say that Homosexual activity is an ABOMINATION. Just word up for you confused people out there that want have sex with your brother or sister...I know, how about we make it legal to have 20 wives, marry my mother and sleep with Dad...just as stupid
That's the judge's job.
Eve was made from Adam's rib. Eve would have had Adam's DNA. Eve would have been a man. Look's like god made Adam and Steve after all.
And Jesus had two dads.
And the Bible does say that clam chowder is an ABOMINATION.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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True there are scattered historical examples of recognized same sex unions, not all were deemed "marriage", however, "gay marriage" is a modern western invention.
So is the internet. Now that you know that, are you going to stop using it?
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Also same sex sexual behavior is not new. Why was there no sustained, with deep historical roots, cross cultural, cross time practice of same sex marriage, at least in Western Civilization?
What difference does it make?
We are talking about the Constitutional right to equal protection under the law.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Oh like the voters of California? They voted in 2000, prop 22, to define marriage as a union of one man and one woman. Apparently their votes didn't count. So they voted again. Still their votes don't count. Where is the justice for them Big D? You speak of the values of the country, yet ignore the voters? So much for patriotic Americans exercising their right to vote. The People's Republic of California does not care.
Why do you think we have three branches of government and checks and balances?
No Californian who dislikes the idea of gay marriage has to marry someone of the same sex, so no harm is coming to them.
And if those who voted for Prop H8 decide not to vote ever again, that's a good thing.

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KiMare wrote:
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1. The article cites OLD ideas that science has discounted. It concludes with the observation that an answer should have been found long ago. Instead, no purpose for homosexuality has been found. That means the most likely answer is a defect. Something epi-genetics is asserting.
Hey monster, doesn't science consider chimerism a defect?
Should you have been aborted?
LOL!

Why would a "marriage" you got involved in be considered real?
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Can you say Delaware?
Sure!
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Big D wrote:
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And again if the majority of brown eyed people voted to deny rights to blue eyed people that too would be tossed out for being unconstitutional, and if the vote happens again, you don’t have the votes to keep it in place anymore anyway
And then if the vote doesn't turn out the way we like, we'll vote again! Until it finally does and then no more.
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Exactly what you post.
Why are you a bigot?
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That's the judge's job.
Eve was made from Adam's rib. Eve would have had Adam's DNA. Eve would have been a man. Look's like god made Adam and Steve after all.
And Jesus had two dads.
And the Bible does say that clam chowder is an ABOMINATION.
Even if that were true, it would be a non issue.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Way too wordy! Chop out 80% and repost. You can do it. It's crying out for heavy editing, don't make me do it!
It's a Virgo trait. I'm ruled by my planets.
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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So is the internet. Now that you know that, are you going to stop using it?
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What difference does it make?
We are talking about the Constitutional right to equal protection under the law.
Aren't you one of those dopes who believes a poly marriage asks for too much protection? That there's only enough protection for two in a marriage? So therefore poly should not be allowed?

Oh! That's right, you're the one who says that "polygamy is not an equal rights issue, it just isn't".

Yes indeed. We are talking about the Constitutional right to equal protection. You would limit it.
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Why do you think we have three branches of government and checks and balances?
No Californian who dislikes the idea of gay marriage has to marry someone of the same sex, so no harm is coming to them.
And if those who voted for Prop H8 decide not to vote ever again, that's a good thing.
Right! We'll keep voting on it till it comes out right dammit!
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Hey monster, doesn't science consider chimerism a defect?
Should you have been aborted?
LOL!
Why would a "marriage" you got involved in be considered real?
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Where's "Marram"?

Who insists Rose_NoHo's post are "intelligent and insightful".

I'd hate for him to miss this gem of intelligence and insight.
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It's a Virgo trait. I'm ruled by my planets.
Astrology is silly nonsense. I am a scientist.
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It's a Virgo trait. I'm ruled by my planets.
You surely are wordy. You lose your audience that way, don't make us work so hard. But aside from that, I kinda like your passion. You are not so angry and nasty as so many of the people of tolerance and diversity.

I hope you get what you want. It makes me happy when people find each other and create a family, I'm silly like that. Good luck.

Marriage. There is no one right way!

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KiMare wrote:
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1. The article cites OLD ideas that science has discounted. It concludes with the observation that an answer should have been found long ago. Instead, no purpose for homosexuality has been found. That means the most likely answer is a defect. Something epi-genetics is asserting.
2. We've been down this road before. I've posted the earliest records of berdaches and read them. Aside from roles you listed that have no roots in history, the others are one time notes or rumors that history records. However, the most often role of Indian transvestites is as the term denotes, male prostitutes. They were most often passed around, abused and mocked. You only confirm what I noted. Societal rejection of homosexuality is cross cultural.
3. The assertion you made was that gay marriage was prevalent. You simply noted the presence of homosexuality. Again, the actual record of gay 'marriages' can be counted on one hand.
Smile.
We are discussing the article that you cited several posts ago. That article discusses "homosexuality", not "gay marriage".

If the history of homosexuality is so scarce, why did the author of the article discuss its presence in various cultures throughout history?

As David P. Barash, the author of your article, puts it, "if homosexuality is in any sense a product of evolution—and it clearly is, for reasons to be explained—then genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage."

You keep hanging your hat on the "epi-genetic theory". What you can't seem to wrap your head around is the fact that this theory DOES NOT indicate a mistake of nature. The theory simply offers an explanation of why there are gay people.

Since scientists have already determined that homosexuality is a normal orientation along the continuum of human sexuality, then it is ridiculous for you to continue claiming that homosexuality is a "mistake".
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They are not real marriages.
Yes they are, they are legal marriages as legal as anyone else’s

Your opinion of their marriage is no more important than my low opinion of your marriage, the only opinion that has any weight, any weight at all, is the legal opinion, and they ARE married.... period
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Yes they are, they are legal marriages as legal as anyone else’s
Your opinion of their marriage is no more important than my low opinion of your marriage, the only opinion that has any weight, any weight at all, is the legal opinion, and they ARE married.... period
"...my low opinion of your marriage."

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Aren't you one of those dopes who believes a poly marriage asks for too much protection? That there's only enough protection for two in a marriage? So therefore poly should not be allowed?
Oh! That's right, you're the one who says that "polygamy is not an equal rights issue, it just isn't".
Yes indeed. We are talking about the Constitutional right to equal protection. You would limit it.
You're pretty stupid.
I haven't stated a position on whether poly marriage should be allowed.
And I won't.
I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue because nobody can marry more than one person.
If a woman could marry more than one man, but a man couldn't marry more than one woman, then we'd have an equal rights issue.
Should a person be able to marry more than one person?
Well, why not start a forum on that subject?
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Taxes on Californians were just raised by billions of dollars.

We're paying higher federal, state and local taxes this year.
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You're pretty stupid.
I haven't stated a position on whether poly marriage should be allowed.
And I won't.
I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue because nobody can marry more than one person.
If a woman could marry more than one man, but a man couldn't marry more than one woman, then we'd have an equal rights issue.
Should a person be able to marry more than one person?
Well, why not start a forum on that subject?
No. This is a perfectly good marriage equality forum. Why don't you start a thread on "are you a monster?" and "do you think you should have been aborted" type nonsense?

By your logic same sex marriage is not an equal rights issue because no one can marry someone of the same sex in many states there.

It's crazy that you truly believe equal rights applies only to gender.

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