Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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I didnít call anyone a liar, a joke was made, the question asked, the lawyers could not respond and the topic was dropped.
You can lie all you want, but it was laughed out of court, that is certainly my view of it and the view of quite a number of other people.
If you want to talk about losing, lets see what happens in the next couple of months with Prop 8 and DOMA
care to make a wager... loser?
Nothing was laughed out of court. Go take a freshman cultural anthropology class and learn about the connection between procreation and marriage.

Arguing that procreation has NOTHING to do with marriage is dumb. Arguing that it is irrelevant to modern marriage is smart. But you're angry and dumb.

No, I don't want to make a wager. DOMA will go down as it should. DOMA was never constitutional and I've often said that but your anger and bias makes you see only what you want to see.

And when DOMA goes down we'll be a step closer to true marriage equality. And maybe soon those "child molesting welfare cheats" you hate will have equal rights too. And then I'll laugh at you squirming!
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No thanks I will post what I like where I like, particularly as it seems to annoy you :)
Just don't start whining and try to proclaim that other forms of marriage which you hate are "off topic".
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Nothing was laughed out of court. Go take a freshman cultural anthropology class and learn about the connection between procreation and marriage.
Arguing that procreation has NOTHING to do with marriage is dumb. Arguing that it is irrelevant to modern marriage is smart. But you're angry and dumb.
No, I don't want to make a wager. DOMA will go down as it should. DOMA was never constitutional and I've often said that but your anger and bias makes you see only what you want to see.
And when DOMA goes down we'll be a step closer to true marriage equality. And maybe soon those "child molesting welfare cheats" you hate will have equal rights too. And then I'll laugh at you squirming!
sure it was

a joke was made, a question asked, no valid response was given and the lawyers dropped it. That is about the definition of being laughed out of court for an argument.

DOMA is dead meat, when the intention of DOMA was read in court... it was toast.

you are in error once again that I am opposed to Poly... I am not, I donít think it will happen as fast as you do, but that is just a matter of opinion, I am not opposed to poly marriage.

Prop 8 will likely be tossed back to California on standing, either that or they will just agree with the court that overturned prop 8. Either way prop 8 is doomed

and even if on the outside chance they donít overturn prop 8, a simple ballot vote will overturn it, either way Prop 8 is doomed.
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<quoted text>You forgot your religion that requires a greater faith then all of them. The puddle of crud theory. Talk about fairy tales....LOL.
That is true. Rabid atheists like Big D have are the very same as rabid religionists. That's the paradox of atheism. It takes at least as much faith as religion.

Maybe someday bigoted Big D will climb down off his high horse and realize he's no better or smarter than the rest of us mere mortals.
But meanwhile, he's amusing when you push his buttons!
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<quoted text>Do you know how to read? He said he WAS married and now he's happy with men, so I'm guessing that's because his ex wife was so horrible he said the hell with woman I'm going to men!lol
Big D tries to change the subject to religion all the time. He's a fanatic when it comes to religion.
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Guessing is exactly what you are doing, you are in no position to judge
Never stopped you.
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sure it was
a joke was made, a question asked, no valid response was given and the lawyers dropped it. That is about the definition of being laughed out of court for an argument.
DOMA is dead meat, when the intention of DOMA was read in court... it was toast.
you are in error once again that I am opposed to Poly... I am not, I donít think it will happen as fast as you do, but that is just a matter of opinion, I am not opposed to poly marriage.
Prop 8 will likely be tossed back to California on standing, either that or they will just agree with the court that overturned prop 8. Either way prop 8 is doomed
and even if on the outside chance they donít overturn prop 8, a simple ballot vote will overturn it, either way Prop 8 is doomed.
As it should be. It was blatantly unconstitutional for the feds to usurp states rights.

So now you wholeheartedly support those "welfare cheating pedophiles who use polygamy to commit their crimes"?

Do you realize the welfare "cheating" you talk about is the Federal government's own fault? Since poly is illegal, all other wives after the first one are considered SINGLE MOTHERS by the government and thus entitled to welfare as such.

If polygamy becomes legal, it will be so rare that those against it will probably never be offended by the sight of a happy poly family.

And of course you always try to minimize the fact that DOMA discriminates against poly marriage as much as it does against SSM.

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They knew the answer then, you dolt. DOMA was a slick (yet heinous) political maneuver to out-flank a Constitutional Amendment movement. Hawaii almost legalized gay marriage and Congress had a hissy fit. It will have been SO much easier to overturn DOMA than to repeal a Constitutional Amendment. Most of those politicians were lawyers... they knew damn well the federal government has no business passing a FEDERAL law codifiying marriage discrimination into law. It bought them time. Looks like you'll need a few more decades for you to adapt.
They asked the Justice Department about DOMA's constitutionality because they wanted to do the right thing. Don't you think Vice President Biden acted in good faith, when he voted to enact DOMA?

BTW, each time the Justice Department replied DOMA is constitutional.

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I donít have a religion, I am not bound by any kind of faith at all, someone shows me actual evidence, that has been through extensive peer review and I will happily take it into consideration.
You can go back to your magic tree, talking snake, and rib woman
You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.

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Big D tries to change the subject to religion all the time. He's a fanatic when it comes to religion.
True and notice the gays that also believe in a higher power like "Veryvermillion" won't take a stand for God because of D's stance on SSM. We see the greater importance V. Please don't give me the stirring the pot lecture, I know that for me, I choose God.
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<quoted text>What a dumbass
I agree. Big D certainly is a dumb ass.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.
If Big D pushes that crap on my kids I will stand up and smite him and declare victory for truth, justice and the American way! Like Superman!

Always cracks me up when he gets emotional and says dopey stuff like that. Reminds me of the old Superman TV show's opening.
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<quoted text>True and notice the gays that also believe in a higher power like "Veryvermillion" won't take a stand for God because of D's stance on SSM. We see the greater importance V. Please don't give me the stirring the pot lecture, I know that for me, I choose God.
Many also fear the great Rose_NoHo's disapproval. She's almost as hateful as Big D when it comes to religion.

And of course old Jizzybird/Apollo911 or whatever with his bowl of spaghetti that flies doesn't understand the irony.
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If Big D pushes that crap on my kids I will stand up and smite him and declare victory for truth, justice and the American way! Like Superman!
Always cracks me up when he gets emotional and says dopey stuff like that. Reminds me of the old Superman TV show's opening.
We do teach science in schools, I am even invited to a few on specific aspects of science. I have worked with schools and even some church groups on Astronomy

Come on over, stand up and smite me ( chuckle ) you may be in for a bit of a shock when you try.
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<quoted text>You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.
You are free to believe in the magic tree, rib woman and talking snake all you like, this is America and I will treat you with the exact same respect I treat volcano worshipers and Scientologists
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As long as you donít try to toss any virgins into volcanos, or deny same sex couples rights, but when you politicize your religion, you are open to fire from every direction. You have lost your innocence and have demoted your belief system into a political party... like Tea Baggers
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<quoted text>No that would be you.
No it's you Jizzybirdy you silly jackass!

We missed your dumb ass. Welcome back.

P.S. Sgt. Friday really said "All we want are the facts, ma'am". Not "Just the facts" you dope.
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We do teach science in schools, I am even invited to a few on specific aspects of science. I have worked with schools and even some church groups on Astronomy
Come on over, stand up and smite me ( chuckle ) you may be in for a bit of a shock when you try.
I'm a retired research geologist telescope guy. But that's as irrelevant as your hobby is.
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You are free to believe in the magic tree, rib woman and talking snake all you like, this is America and I will treat you with the exact same respect I treat volcano worshipers and Scientologists
Gee thanks. But no one asked for your permission.

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Country-Girl22 wrote:
Did anybody see the Jerry Springer episode today? I was just watching it, and that right there is why I think same sex relations are gross. You have guys who dress and act like girls, and girls who look and dress and act like guys. Total trash!!!!
So you base your opinions off Jerry Springer? A show where everyone knows its scripted and fake. That's sad you think it's real.

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<quoted text>Big D tries to change the subject to religion all the time. He's a fanatic when it comes to religion.
Why can't anyone understand the decision the courts are making is based on the constitution and should have nothing to do with religion.

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