Carson decision to educate voters on sales tax measure draws fire

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Carson city officials have approved spending $20,710 on a pre-election outreach effort so voters know what's at stake with a proposed sales tax increase on the November ballot. Full Story
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Taxes

Plymouth, PA

#1 Sep 8, 2010
I will make sure not to shop in Carson, I certainly wouldn't buy a car in the city.
Laughable

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#2 Sep 9, 2010
Taxes wrote:
I will make sure not to shop in Carson, I certainly wouldn't buy a car in the city.
If you're from RB like your post says, the only reason you would be going to Carson is to become a victim of a crime. Any education which occurs in Carson is a good thing!
Chris

Placentia, CA

#3 Sep 9, 2010
In the past, despite the less than model leadership displayed in city hall, I did make a conscious effort to spend in Carson when able.

This latest waste of already precious tax dollars in more frequent last ditch efforts to plug deficit spending will point my car in another direction when shopping. Thanks again.
Corrupt-O-Crats

Torrance, CA

#4 Sep 9, 2010
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"This council already voted to allow residents of Carson to vote if they want a 1 percent sales tax increase," Councilwoman Lula Davis-Holmes told critics Tuesday. "They'll let their pocketbooks decide. Let them choose their poison."

There isn't really that much educating needed in picking your poison. Put a stop to this stupidity and vote NO on ALL NEW TAXES !!!!!!
kma

Newington, CT

#5 Sep 9, 2010
Sounds like it should be titled the "Put the Super K out of business" Measure. I bet so many people that now use that Super K will just go a little further down Western to the older K-Mart. And what will all the illegals do who hang out at Home Depot when people start going to Loew's? These idiots will never learn that rasing taxes in one city just drives business into the neighbors.

Oh, and it is definitely an advocacy program, not an education program.
kma

Newington, CT

#6 Sep 9, 2010
Laughable wrote:
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If you're from RB like your post says, the only reason you would be going to Carson is to become a victim of a crime. Any education which occurs in Carson is a good thing!
You need a glass belly button, dmbadz. Where can you buy a car in RB? And unless you are lilly white and hanve dollars hanging out of your pockets you would want to start out of Torrance. Me, I went to Cerritos or Long Beach when I lived in San Pedro.
kma

Newington, CT

#7 Sep 9, 2010
kma wrote:
Sounds like it should be titled the "Put the Super K out of business" Measure. I bet so many people that now use that Super K will just go a little further down Western to the older K-Mart. And what will all the illegals do who hang out at Home Depot when people start going to Loew's? These idiots will never learn that rasing taxes in one city just drives business into the neighbors.
Oh, and it is definitely an advocacy program, not an education program.
Sorry, that should be Vermont, not Western.
Bill

Torrance, CA

#8 Sep 9, 2010
Carson residents have proven their reputation time and time again as staggering idiots. They will vote for this and tax their community into oblivion.
U Dont Say

Studio City, CA

#9 Sep 9, 2010
There are 88 cities in the County of Los Angeles. When you look at the list of what each city is paying in sales tax, you will see that the majority of them are already paying 9.75 cents on the dollar. If the residents of Carson vote to approve this measure, Carson will then become the ninth city in L.A. County to have a 10.75 cent sales tax.

This figure of 10.75 is the highest in the county. In remembering that the economy is doen, property values are down and almost all cities in this state are looking at some kind of deficit or another. Now Carson can add to the woes of our economy by laying off city workers and putting them on the streets where they will then be placed on the welfare rolls. Do those workers have families ie: children to care for such as medical care, food, clothing, etc.? Sure they do.

I guess the question here is should the City of Carson shut-down some vital services and layoff workers to gain control of it's deficit, or should the city ask it's residents to pay one cent more in sales taxes to help prevent the City of Carson from laying off it's workers and from shuting down some of it's vital services to it's citizens?

Do not make the mistake of thinking that Carson is the only city that has serious deficit problems for you would be terribly wrong. Throwing city employees out into the streets to save money is way to harsh. Cutting vital services to our citizens from infants to senior citizens could be devistating to many.

As said before by other poster here on Topix, if you buy a car in El Segundo to save that extra one cent sales tax, you will be suprised to learn that you will pay that extra sales tax on that car as the sales tax on any car is based upon the city tax where you live.

So what is worse, throwing city employees out into the streets and canceling vital services or paying one cent more sales tax for just five years. This sales tax will go away after five years.

I will vote to keep our city employees gainfully employed and to maintain vital services to our citizens. A few more pennies out of my pocket to help keep some of our citizens off of the welfare rolls just might help to keep us from paying even more in welfare taxes.

Businesses and residents alike must help to support your city during hard times and we must pull together to get through this deficit probelm. The city has already cut many programs in a serious effort to bring this deficit down to a controllable level.
Bucko

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Sep 9, 2010
Save the money, I'm not buying anything in carson anyways. Maybe other cities should pay for the education of Carson's residents and show how stupid Carson's leaders really are.
Johnny C

Long Beach, CA

#11 Sep 9, 2010
The Carson Council just doesn't get it ... unemployment is high and people do not have the extra money to keep a languishing city above water. It will be a shame to layoff city personnel and get reduced benefits, however, if you do not have the money ... cut programs!

If the coucil of Carson took a holistic approach and saw the number of benefits they provide versus other communities, they would see that even if they reduced programs or even cut their administrative costs, that they are still providing benefits greater than the majority of the people in the US see.

The council needs to make some tough decisions to amend this concern.
Here We Go

Carson, CA

#14 Sep 9, 2010
Taxes wrote:
I will make sure not to shop in Carson, I certainly wouldn't buy a car in the city.
It doesn't matter where you buy a car - the sales tax is based on the address on your registration.
Here We Go

Carson, CA

#15 Sep 9, 2010
Chris wrote:
In the past, despite the less than model leadership displayed in city hall, I did make a conscious effort to spend in Carson when able.
This latest waste of already precious tax dollars in more frequent last ditch efforts to plug deficit spending will point my car in another direction when shopping. Thanks again.
I don't like the idea in general, but it won't make me look to shop somewhere else. If you live in Carson, support the local businesses. Unless you are buying thousands of dollars on furniture or electronics, you are not going to notice an extra penny on a $1 sale, or a dime on a $10 sale, or a dollar on a $100 sale. You'll spend that in gas driving to Torrance or Long Beach.
Here We Go

Carson, CA

#16 Sep 9, 2010
kma wrote:
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Sorry, that should be Vermont, not Western.
Too late! That K-Mart (on Sepulveda and Vermont) has been gone since December. It will be a Ross pretty soon.
WONT BITE

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Sep 9, 2010
Davis-Holmes said, "Let them choose their poison."

God warned of the poison before Eve bit the apple. Adam was GOD's spokesperson as you will (HIS representative) to the people. Adam did the right thing in representing, he said DO NOT EAT FROM THE TREE. Davis-Holmes and the others (Elected and Staff) are our Eve, they bring turmoil to the people.

This was not a good statement to make, considering Davis-Holmes (a representative to the people) is running for re-election. It is time to think before you speak and act.

It is clear to many of us, that at the same time the bickering goes on between the two rivals on the dias, they ALL make irresponsible decisions that is NOT representative of the community who voted them in. They're (ALL FIVE OF THE ELECTED) really more representatives of the staff and THEIR high salaries. THIS IS NOT A BALANCE OF THE SYSTEM.

These "leaders" need to remember their job is to represent the peoples voice. I don't recall one citizen coming forward and saying, please place a sales tax initiative on the ballot so I can vote for it.

I WON'T BITE. VOTE NO ON H

Since: May 10

Hacienda Heights, CA

#18 Sep 9, 2010
Great plan to get out of debt, spend over $20K on brochures justifying to people why they need more of our money. LA county already has one of the highest sales tax rates in the country and what do we get for it? Cut your spending carson city hall, that's what the rest of us have had to do.
IT DOES MATTER

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Sep 9, 2010
Here We Go wrote:
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It doesn't matter where you buy a car - the sales tax is based on the address on your registration.
IT WILL MATTER IF A 1% SALES TAX IS INCREASED IN THE CITY WHERE YOU LIVE. With this said, this means you can buy a car in a city that have the states sales tax of 9.75%, but if you live in the city of Carson and Proposition H passes; you will HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER SALES TAX even if you decide to shop ELSEWHERE.

Additionally, if you buy in a city that has a HIGHER TAX than the State tax of 9.75%, and you decide to return it in a city that has a REGULAR State tax of 9.75%, you will RECEIVE LESS, because the city you returned the item in have a lesser tax. If you don't believe me try buying a something out of Inglewood's (higher sales tax of 10.75%)Costco and return the exact same item to Torrance's (sales tax of 9.75%) Costco, your refund will be LESS. Same item, same store, different location cost.

NO ON ANY INCREASE IN ANY NEW TAXES - NO ON H
IT DOES MATTER

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Sep 9, 2010
Here We Go wrote:
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Too late! That K-Mart (on Sepulveda and Vermont) has been gone since December. It will be a Ross pretty soon.
I believe they are referring to the Super K near Torrance and Figueroa. I'm sure you knew this too.
IT DOES MATTER

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Sep 9, 2010
Here We Go wrote:
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I don't like the idea in general, but it won't make me look to shop somewhere else. If you live in Carson, support the local businesses. Unless you are buying thousands of dollars on furniture or electronics, you are not going to notice an extra penny on a $1 sale, or a dime on a $10 sale, or a dollar on a $100 sale. You'll spend that in gas driving to Torrance or Long Beach.
I WILL continue to spend in Carson, but I WILL NOT SUPPORT CONTINUOUS FRIVOLOUS SPENDING coming from the city of Carson.

Measure H will only put Carson deeper in the hole they have been in for over 7 years, WHICH STARTED BEFORE THE RECESSION. IT IS TIME TO CHANGE YOUR HABITS.

I say no to feeding a "H"abit - NO ON H - NO TO INCREASE IN SALES TAX!
Here We Go

Carson, CA

#22 Sep 9, 2010
IT DOES MATTER wrote:
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IT WILL MATTER IF A 1% SALES TAX IS INCREASED IN THE CITY WHERE YOU LIVE. With this said, this means you can buy a car in a city that have the states sales tax of 9.75%, but if you live in the city of Carson and Proposition H passes; you will HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER SALES TAX even if you decide to shop ELSEWHERE.
Additionally, if you buy in a city that has a HIGHER TAX than the State tax of 9.75%, and you decide to return it in a city that has a REGULAR State tax of 9.75%, you will RECEIVE LESS, because the city you returned the item in have a lesser tax. If you don't believe me try buying a something out of Inglewood's (higher sales tax of 10.75%)Costco and return the exact same item to Torrance's (sales tax of 9.75%) Costco, your refund will be LESS. Same item, same store, different location cost.
NO ON ANY INCREASE IN ANY NEW TAXES - NO ON H
How is what you said different from my one line post devoid of ALL CAPS?

I was responding to someone that said he/she would go somewhere else to buy a car - I responded that it doesn't matter where you buy a car, the sales tax is based on the address that the car is registered.

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