Outlook cloudy for Alpine Village

[Common Sense Contractor]

Judy wrote:

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I didn't know that Habitat for Humanity was a TV show. By the way, is MORON your real name?

I guess it depends on what a MORON like you would consider to be a "few" days.

I have worked with Habitat For Humanity, and if by a "few" days you mean somewhere around 60 days, then I guess you're right. But I doubt that's what you meant because you are a MORON

[Judy]

Common Sense Contractor wrote:

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I guess it depends on what a MORON like you would consider to be a "few" days.
I have worked with Habitat For Humanity, and if by a "few" days you mean somewhere around 60 days, then I guess you're right. But I doubt that's what you meant because you are a MORON

Habitat for Humanity can build a house in as little as 5 days, but thats really not the issue. My original comment only meant that they should be able to get a tent up in the next two months, I don't not why you took issue with it. Let's quit all the name calling, you don't know me and I don't know you, so how can either one of us call the other a MORON. I don't like being called names, and I really don't like to call other people names. I know that you are probably a really nice person, so I surrender. Please accept my appology for calling you a MORON.

[Common Sense Contractor]

Judy wrote:

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Habitat for Humanity can build a house in as little as 5 days, but thats really not the issue. My original comment only meant that they should be able to get a tent up in the next two months, I don't not why you took issue with it. Let's quit all the name calling, you don't know me and I don't know you, so how can either one of us call the other a MORON. I don't like being called names, and I really don't like to call other people names. I know that you are probably a really nice person, so I surrender. Please accept my appology for calling you a MORON.

Habitat For Humanity has only built a house in 5 days as a publicity stunt to promote their program. It was a logistics nightmare that pretty much backfired on them.

Their average start to finish time is around 60 days.

Comparing building a single house to the amount of work left at Alpine Village to finish the Beer Garden area is simplistic and childlike.

The same mound of dirt covered with the tarp has sat there unmoved for over a month now. There is much grading still left to be done. Underground utilities have to be installed before paving can even start. Inspectors have to o.k. every phase, and that takes time. And once that is all finished, your "quickie" little tent can be propped up. The "quickie little tent" is more of a project than you think it is. The same kind of tent you used in Camp Fire Girls won't work.

Bottom line is Habitat For Humanity would not be able to pull this off even as another publicity stunt - and neither will Alpine Village.

Whether you not realizing all of the above when you made your original statement makes you a MORON or not is up to the individual. I know what my opinion is.

[really]

Judy wrote:

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Habitat for Humanity can build a house in as little as 5 days, but thats really not the issue. My original comment only meant that they should be able to get a tent up in the next two months, I don't not why you took issue with it. Let's quit all the name calling, you don't know me and I don't know you, so how can either one of us call the other a MORON. I don't like being called names, and I really don't like to call other people names. I know that you are probably a really nice person, so I surrender. Please accept my appology for calling you a MORON.

The habitat project in San Pedro took months to complete. There was a big hoopla and the one week build party when Carter visited, but those houses were not by any stretch done in a week.

It's not a matter of throwing up a tent. There has to be electricity, water, food and beverage service areas that must meet health code standards, handicapped access, a lot more than a pop-up sun shade.

[LJ Gibbs]

I can pitch a tent in just a few seconds if the right female walks by. (Someone had to say it)

[Oktoberfest Doubter]

If they plan on holding Oktoberfest in the new Beer Garden when it is finished, they will have to rename it Decemberfest or Januaryfest, or probably even Februaryfest.

Since Oktoberfest is one of the main money makers for Alpine Village, it will no doubt be celebrated in one of the restaurants.

Not the same atmosphere as the Beer Garden was. This will be yet another nail in Alpine Village's coffin.

[THE DIRT REPORTER]

Wednesday July 23rd
No work today. Dirt is just blowing.
To be cont.
So everyone knows the very latest.

[THE DIRT REPORTER]

2:55 sand bags being restacked this very minute!!!!!!

[Oktoberfest Doubter]

THE DIRT REPORTER wrote:

2:55 sand bags being restacked this very minute!!!!!!

Excellent breaking news reporting!! I for one appreciate your efforts. Please keep us posted.

You mean they actually unstacked the sand bags and then restacked them again???

Wow, Zoe and Judy must be right then, everything should be finished any time now.

[THE DIRT REPORTER]

No just stacked the messy ones. Must keep the place tidy, right?

[Judy]

I give. Comments have now become no more than a bunch of personal attacks. I don't really care if there is a tent or not. No MONEY in my pocket, no MONEY out of my pocket. I actually quit going to the Oktoberfest once the swapmeet moved in.

[Pity Poor Judy]

Judy wrote:

I give. Comments have now become no more than a bunch of personal attacks. I don't really care if there is a tent or not. No MONEY in my pocket, no MONEY out of my pocket. I actually quit going to the Oktoberfest once the swapmeet moved in.

Geez Judy, you have already "surrendered" and "apologized" and now you "give".

Maybe you should have STFU in the first place.

Just a thought.

[THE DIRT REPORTER]

Thursday July 24th 10:25 am:
Only work going on is in the garden in front of
the market.
Looks like the outhouses may have been moved a little.
Dirt is not moving, it is wet today!!!!!!!!

[Oktoberfest Doubter]

THE DIRT REPORTER wrote:

Thursday July 24th 10:25 am:
Only work going on is in the garden in front of
the market.
Looks like the outhouses may have been moved a little.
Dirt is not moving, it is wet today!!!!!!!!

Yesterday they restacked the sand bags and today they might have moved the outhouses a little!! It sounds like something BIG is about to happen, like maybe tomorrow they will remove the tarp from the dirt mound and put it right back on again.

Keep up the good work Dirt Reporter...

[zoe]

Oktoberfest Doubter wrote:

If they plan on holding Oktoberfest in the new Beer Garden when it is finished, they will have to rename it Decemberfest or Januaryfest, or probably even Februaryfest.
Since Oktoberfest is one of the main money makers for Alpine Village, it will no doubt be celebrated in one of the restaurants.
Not the same atmosphere as the Beer Garden was. This will be yet another nail in Alpine Village's coffin.

the Octoberfest is NOT one of the main money makers of the Alpine Village with this statement I know you do not have correct information
I am and Alpine suporter no agenda just wishing that everything turns out o.k. but apparently your wish is different than mine
and that is o.k because this is America a free country to express your opinion but it should be done without name calling especially amongst adults

[Oktoberfest Doubter]

Zoe, your "agenda" is crystal clear. You have no idea how transparant you are.

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"totally disagree with this statement the Rotter's are "the problem"
and Hans is sick so he can not get involved let him go on a vacation with his wife and enjoy life

p/s: they have now the right Chiefs and the Indians are doing a great job "

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This was your earlier statement (unless someone else is posting using your name).

Your obvious "agenda" is that you had a problem with the Rotter's management and now want to make it seem like "Everything will be so much better now, it will be peachy keeno, Oktoberfest will go on as planned, the Beer Garden will be finished because there are the right Chiefs and Indians now"

Your wish is not that Alpine Village succeed, your wish is OBVIOUSLY that Alpine Village succeed without the Rotters.

That is your "agenda".

[zoe]

Oktoberfest Doubter wrote:

Zoe, your "agenda" is crystal clear. You have no idea how transparant you are.
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"totally disagree with this statement the Rotter's are "the problem"
and Hans is sick so he can not get involved let him go on a vacation with his wife and enjoy life
p/s: they have now the right Chiefs and the Indians are doing a great job "
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This was your earlier statement (unless someone else is posting using your name).
Your obvious "agenda" is that you had a problem with the Rotter's management and now want to make it seem like "Everything will be so much better now, it will be peachy keeno, Oktoberfest will go on as planned, the Beer Garden will be finished because there are the right Chiefs and Indians now"
Your wish is not that Alpine Village succeed, your wish is OBVIOUSLY that Alpine Village succeed without the Rotters.
That is your "agenda".

it is not my agenda this my wish that the Alpine Village suceed without the Rotter's that they enjoy life and happiness... as people I like them and wish them the best but as managers of Alpine my opinion is that they did no do the best job and this is my opinion

[KWG]

I write with reference to the article entitled “What’s going on at Alpine Village?” by Staff Writer – Nick Green, on 6/26/08.

I felt the article was skewed, biased, and somewhat smug.

If a business survives and is profitable for forty years, someone must be doing something right – that “someone” is, and has always been, Hans & Terry Rotter. In addition, Alpine Village is well known for it’s charitable contributions to the community.

Hans & Terry Rotter have been the backbone and founding inspiration for Alpine Village since its inception. Their hard work, endless dedication, not to mention their visible and personable presence not only made Alpine Village – but unquestionably – put it on the map! Alpine Village has been a tax paying solid contributor to the South Bay & Torrance economy.

While the redevelopment plan may have gone awry, throwing the baby out with the bath water seems even more ill conceived.

As for the board placing the (Rotter) daughter and son-in-law in charge, talk about ill conceived! I am not aware of any practical and applied business acumen that either of these two has to offer, or to draw from. Unfortunately the livelihoods of all the employees at Alpine Village must not depend and rely this? If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be laughable.

All businesses have challenges and struggles. No management team is perfect or flawless. It is my prediction that the board of Alpine Village will live to regret their lack of foresight and vision. Without Hans & Terry, Alpine Village has no passion, no personality and worst of all, no heart!

KWG – Van Nuys

[THE DIRT REPORTER]

Friday July 25th 10:55 am
Nothing happening, no movement of anything but swapmeeters. I quess they are still "waiting for permits"
And we can all besure, the weekend will be the same.

[The Bottom Line]

zoe wrote:

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please bring the family it is going to be the best ever I can't wait we will have a ball!!!

Zoe, don't you feel stupider and stupider as each day passes by with no progress?

Your "all knowing" "insider information" babble is turning out to be as expected just that.. BABBLE..

Now go back to blowing spit bubbles.