Changes may restore eminence of Torrance's Hawthorne Boulevard

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Vacant auto dealerships and closed retailers are among the reasons parts of Hawthorne Boulevard appear so distressed. Full Story
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encouraging

Torrance, CA

#1 Nov 6, 2010
It sounds like Hawthorne Blvd is coming back, slowly but surely.

Just as long as there's no more massage (i.e., prostitution parlors) for the longshoremen.
Whitey

Torrance, CA

#2 Nov 7, 2010
It is VERY simple, more and more business will be driven out of California by the liberals running this state.

WARNING: Any business that wants to come to California be warned it is anti-business, high taxes, costs, no business friendly.

The state and the liberals running it are killing our future. Most business is looking to move OUT of CA. not into it. If Hawhtorne Blvd in Torrance loses dozens of businesses, then how do you think other depressed cities are doing.

Thanks liberals for screwing us again
Whitey

Torrance, CA

#3 Nov 7, 2010
Excellent Point! The only business that is doing well in torrance is the whore houses that advertise as massage parlors. The sick thing is that our city council, police, and local paper dont do anything about it. They are next to schools, dealing in human trafficing, etc. For example, the Daily Sleeze runs a story about the parlors getting closed and then had ads for them in the sports section, referencing "pretty asian women" "young hispanic and asian women" COME ON...this is why we dont subscribe or even advertise in the Sleze Breeze anymore.
encouraging wrote:
It sounds like Hawthorne Blvd is coming back, slowly but surely.
Just as long as there's no more massage (i.e., prostitution parlors) for the longshoremen.
really daily breeze

Torrance, CA

#4 Nov 7, 2010
prestigious del amo financial center? the tony palo verdes?
teenager

Torrance, CA

#5 Nov 7, 2010
Whitey wrote:
Excellent Point! The only business that is doing well in torrance is the **** houses that advertise as massage parlors. The sick thing is that our city council, police, and local paper dont do anything about it. They are next to schools, dealing in human trafficing, etc. For example, the Daily Sleeze runs a story about the parlors getting closed and then had ads for them in the sports section, referencing "pretty asian women" "young hispanic and asian women" COME ON...this is why we dont subscribe or even advertise in the Sleze Breeze anymore.
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I agree. Around 11ish (due to heavy studying), I walked over to Domino's on Hawthorne and Newton. Never did I realize the gazillion "massage parlors" in my neighborhood. The business lights were still on and they all had at least two cars parked outside. Torrance is supposed to be a nice neighborhood, but I'm not sure having businesses being fronts for (probably forced) prostitution is exactly ideal...
Joe

Torrance, CA

#6 Nov 7, 2010
Whitey wrote:
Excellent Point! The only business that is doing well in torrance is the **** houses that advertise as massage parlors. The sick thing is that our city council, police, and local paper dont do anything about it. They are next to schools, dealing in human trafficing, etc. For example, the Daily Sleeze runs a story about the parlors getting closed and then had ads for them in the sports section, referencing "pretty asian women" "young hispanic and asian women" COME ON...this is why we dont subscribe or even advertise in the Sleze Breeze anymore.
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Whitey - You're an idiot. Do you read the paper regularly or just when you want to make an idiotic statement of which you are 100% wrong.

Read back a couple months when TPD was closing these places by the handful after undercover officers visited theses brothels and were offered mors than a massage. Furthermore the city council has not and will not issue new licenses for Masage parlors at this time.

Write about something you can speak knowedgebly about instead of makng stupid statements......assuming you know something about anything in Torrance.

G
Joe

Torrance, CA

#7 Nov 7, 2010
Teenager - what is your neighborhood since you say your from Elsinore ???

Do you have public schools that teach math there?
because a "gazillion"...... well anyway perhaps you and Whitey can make a play date and make up stories about other cities which you know nothing about.

Torrance is a nice city and if Hawthorne and 242nd is really your neighborhood, you made it your neighborhood for a reason..... BECAUSE IT"S NICE
You can never go back hom

Torrance, CA

#8 Nov 7, 2010
encouraging wrote:
It sounds like Hawthorne Blvd is coming back, slowly but surely.
Just as long as there's no more massage (i.e., prostitution parlors) for the longshoremen.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Look at the furniture stores up and down Hawthorne bl from Lomita bl (southern point) to as far north as Artesia bl., they go in and out of business overnight. I noticed this trend as far back as the 90s. Nothing's changed, furniture stores are not "smart businesses" to get involved in from my opinion. Look at all the car dealerships that experienced likewise: Power Nissan of Torrance; Saturn of Torrance, Del Amo Dodge, all those used car lots...

Lastly, look at the ghettoization of Del Amo Mall. It's not helping Torrance, and neither is Walmeezee that's coming in fo' sheezee.

I think about that Madonna song, "this used to be my plaaaayground...

Since: Jun 10

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Nov 7, 2010
It just shows how all these stores are banking on people spending their home equity which is the only thing that disappeared really in this recession.
Anti Business Council

Santa Monica, CA

#10 Nov 7, 2010
Scotto and the rest of the city council were all elected on their anti business platform of No Development. Now that this anti-business message has been added to the recession, its no wonder as to what has occurred. They delivered what they ran on, a big fat NO.
Scarpia

Santa Ana, CA

#11 Nov 7, 2010
This is just the beginning. Under the Brown administration & its polices, more businesses throughout the state will go "down under." You just wait & see. California is short of bankruptcy & with Moonbeam in office it will become total bankrupt. The people of Calif. must learn the hard way on the type of politicians they put in office. Under bankruptcy their freebees WILL END. Then they will wake up & do what the rest of the country has done, vote Republican (this is particularly true with the Hispanics who are family orientated, hard workers, & really conservative).
colby

Van Nuys, CA

#13 Nov 7, 2010
the only news i loved

Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A won Torrance Planning Commission approval last week to build a new drive-through restaurant at the corner of Hawthorne and 182nd Street.
StarkleyonTor

AOL

#14 Nov 7, 2010
California voters are a great disappointment. They voted back in the same old liberals that have dragged this state down and now we have a recycled liberal governor that will finish the job. We are already known as the least business-friendly state. Torrance is getting really bad, the city has changed so much in just this last year. The malls are just too dangerous or ghettoish to shop in, car dealerships have left Hawthorne blvd naked, house prices are ridiculous with this type of state atmosphere, who would pay so much $$ for house in a city that's going ghetto???
confused

United States

#15 Nov 7, 2010
Help! Can someone please explain that chart? Where it says $849, 430 in 4th quart 2009 - is that sales tax collected or sales? Either number seems wrong....
confused

United States

#16 Nov 7, 2010
colby wrote:
the only news i loved
Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A won Torrance Planning Commission approval last week to build a new drive-through restaurant at the corner of Hawthorne and 182nd Street.
Oh my, there goes my diet! Having to go into the mall to get my Chick-fil-A fix is one thing...but a drive-thru?!?!?!?!

Oh, and the drive-thur in Long Beach gives you mints in the bag!!
VICB3

Spring Hope, NC

#17 Nov 7, 2010
Besides overall economic conditions and the slow death of big box retailing, no one seems to have empahsized that the traffic along Hawthorne Blvd. is terrible.(This is due in part to the population growth overall in the last 30 years.) In turn, unless you're a destination retailer - Del Amo, Target, etc.- nobody is going to just pop in to see what you offer since it involves cutting across several lanes of crowded traffic.

That, and I can cite any number or retail/commercial buildings that have terrible layouts or curb appeal, the buildings between Sepulveda and Lomita being among the worst. Tilt-up buildings. Too large, hot and uninviting parking lots. An utter lack of shade trees. Shabby upkeep.

In the case of Famina, it was anything but convenient to get into. Supposedly a company with deep pockets, they would have been far better served it they had located in - believe it or not - Del Amo (Yuck!) or in downtown Hermosa or Manhattan. This assertion is borne out by the apparent success of is their location on the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica. These are places where somebody might stroll in to see what it was all about.

What no one really wants to mention here is that, overall, this commercial section of Torrance, like most of Torrance itself, is waaaaay overbuilt. Ultimately, the best use would be to scrape everything and turn it back into berry fields.

That probably won't happen of course, or at least not right away. Somebody, some developer, will come up with some scheme to turn everything into some sort of Playa Vista clone. It will be touted as being an upscale, lifestyle improvement, adding tax revenues, blah-blah-blah, etc. But really, like Playa Vista, it will just turn into the slums of tomorrow, complete with absentee landlords and tax revenues that don't keep up with administrative costs.

Just a thoght.

VicB3

history guy

Lomita, CA

#18 Nov 7, 2010
StarkleyonTor wrote:
California voters are a great disappointment. They voted back in the same old liberals that have dragged this state down and now we have a recycled liberal governor that will finish the job. We are already known as the least business-friendly state. Torrance is getting really bad, the city has changed so much in just this last year. The malls are just too dangerous or ghettoish to shop in, car dealerships have left Hawthorne blvd naked, house prices are ridiculous with this type of state atmosphere, who would pay so much $$ for house in a city that's going ghetto???
California voters ROCK! It doesn't look like the Republicans in California will be doing much of anything for the next few years as the 2/3 majority vote for a budget is now history. My prediction is that they will make a comeback once a large enough number of older white voters pass away and the younger Republicans do away with the homophobia and racism inherent in the Republican Party political platform.
huskydon

Torrance, CA

#19 Nov 7, 2010
I would have loved to see an In N Out in Torrance.
VICB3

Spring Hope, NC

#20 Nov 7, 2010
colby wrote:
the only news i loved
Atlanta-based Chick-fil-A won Torrance Planning Commission approval last week to build a new drive-through restaurant at the corner of Hawthorne and 182nd Street.
Chick-fi-A is pure ghetto/barrio. And that speaks volumes about the evolving psychograpics of the area if the company wants to put a store there.

Just a thought.

VicB3
Bob

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Nov 7, 2010
Redondo Beach is having the same problem. These have to stop letting asians open massage parlors.
Whitey wrote:
Excellent Point! The only business that is doing well in torrance is the **** houses that advertise as massage parlors. The sick thing is that our city council, police, and local paper dont do anything about it. They are next to schools, dealing in human trafficing, etc. For example, the Daily Sleeze runs a story about the parlors getting closed and then had ads for them in the sports section, referencing "pretty asian women" "young hispanic and asian women" COME ON...this is why we dont subscribe or even advertise in the Sleze Breeze anymore.
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