3,600 LAUSD workers 'bumped' to new jobs

Full story: Daily Breeze

A day after more than 1,000 Los Angeles Unified office clerks, grounds workers and classroom aides lost their jobs, several thousand more reported to new work sites Wednesday in a mid-semester version of "musical chairs," as one school district official called the upheaval.

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simonsez

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Can you hear it? Listen closely. That grinding sound. The wheels are coming of of the gravy train. A lot of these utterly useless drones are going to have to find real jobs. You know, jobs where they actually have to produce. Jobs, where, if they don;t work, they don't get paid. The horror, the horror.
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simonsez wrote:
Can you hear it? Listen closely. That grinding sound. The wheels are coming of of the gravy train. A lot of these utterly useless drones are going to have to find real jobs. You know, jobs where they actually have to produce. Jobs, where, if they don;t work, they don't get paid. The horror, the horror.
These jobs will be handed to undocumented labor. This is just the begining of things to come, don't be to thrilled about it your job may be next. Then you will kick yourself in the A ss for being a hater
Richard Wagoner

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You know nothing, simonsez. The jobs where nothing is done are at two levels: local districts and central. We have two duplicate management levels in LAUSD, both doing the same thing. Poorly.THe cuts made yesterday were people who really do a lot of needed work.

Yet the district also refuses to cut programs that their own research branch determined ineffective, such as the Periodic Assessment program. Standards-based assessments are included with every program adopted by the State; LAUSD spends $12 million per year making their own bad versions of what is already free.

They also recently signed a contract worth $5 million to help them design staff development training.

TWO programs -- we've not even scratched the surface -- and we're already more than 1/3 of the way toward saving every one of those jobs cut.

Why does LAUSD refuse to cut bad programs, consultants and contracts? Who's pet project is the assessment program? Why does LAUSD spend millions of dollars per year on Small Learning Communities when even the Bill Gates Foundation -- the group that pushed the ill-fated reform -- stopped funding them due to their research that showed SLC's actually LOWER achievement?

LAUSD administrators have destroyed the district. Shame on them.
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It sounds like it's time to break up LAUSD and return control to the communities. As part of a community board at my daughter's elementary school in the early nineties, we gained access to some interesting research. A sustainable district could be as small as 6-12 elementary schools feeding three middle schools feeding one high school.
Cut off the expensive head of the mess that is LAUSD and hand over management to local levels. Mr. Wagoner's information about expensive programs that bear no fruit are further examples of why we need local control and, probably more importantly, local accountability.
The other sad part of the story is the unions dictating who to keep based strictly on seniority. In the private sector, there are these things call annual performance reviews. If you're not doing your job well, they let you go regardless of years of service.
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jim wrote:
It sounds like it's time to break up LAUSD and return control to the communities. As part of a community board at my daughter's elementary school in the early nineties, we gained access to some interesting research. A sustainable district could be as small as 6-12 elementary schools feeding three middle schools feeding one high school.
Cut off the expensive head of the mess that is LAUSD and hand over management to local levels. Mr. Wagoner's information about expensive programs that bear no fruit are further examples of why we need local control and, probably more importantly, local accountability.
The other sad part of the story is the unions dictating who to keep based strictly on seniority. In the private sector, there are these things call annual performance reviews. If you're not doing your job well, they let you go regardless of years of service.
Jim,
LAUSD has never been in the control of its far-reaching communities, so to suggest returning it is a misconception. Also, cutting off the head of the mess in LAUSD and creating a bunch of local districts still costs lots of money--each of those smaller districts would now be paying equivalent levels of salary to all of their various employees. There is definitely a need to reduce the bureaucracy of LAUSD, but splitting the district is not necessarily the panacea. Here's how LAUSD looks:

Superintendent
- Chiefs (like assistant superintendents)
- Support Staff (teachers, administrators, clerical)
- Local District Superintendents (8 total)
- Directors
- Schools (Administrators, teachers, etc.)

What would happen if it were split? The top most level of leadership would be gone, but then each individual district would be responsible for this, in turn hiring more support staff and not really reducing the total cost of running anything by much at all. Creating a bunch of small districts as you suggest would be even more costly.

That all being said, I think local control would be great, the district should be split up, but I recognize that it would cost at least as much as it currently takes to fund such a scenario. I look at local small school districts and see that they have even worse staffing problems and a harder time paying the bills than LAUSD, but I still think that letting control go to smaller and more localized communities would be great.

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Sorry guys, we're in a recession. Time for everybody, even govt union workers, to share in the sacrifice.

Life doesn't come with guarantees, no matter what the union claims.
Morris the Cat

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Reduce please!
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Richard Wagoner wrote:
You know nothing, simonsez. The jobs where nothing is done are at two levels: local districts and central. We have two duplicate management levels in LAUSD, both doing the same thing. Poorly.THe cuts made yesterday were people who really do a lot of needed work.
Yet the district also refuses to cut programs that their own research branch determined ineffective, such as the Periodic Assessment program. Standards-based assessments are included with every program adopted by the State; LAUSD spends $12 million per year making their own bad versions of what is already free.
They also recently signed a contract worth $5 million to help them design staff development training.
TWO programs -- we've not even scratched the surface -- and we're already more than 1/3 of the way toward saving every one of those jobs cut.
Why does LAUSD refuse to cut bad programs, consultants and contracts? Who's pet project is the assessment program? Why does LAUSD spend millions of dollars per year on Small Learning Communities when even the Bill Gates Foundation -- the group that pushed the ill-fated reform -- stopped funding them due to their research that showed SLC's actually LOWER achievement?
LAUSD administrators have destroyed the district. Shame on them.
Right on Richard, you said it all but there are still way too many idiots that just don't get it.
Cal Native

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I thought Cortinas was out. Is this his last hora?
Cortinas doesn't care he is retiring
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love god,and one an other.
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Heads up...this site stole your article and didn't credit you: http://technologyslice.blogspot.com/2010/12/l...

It's been doing it to a lot of other articles too. My article was also stolen.
Stuart Goldurs

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Today, December 1, 2010, LAUSD sticks another thumb into the eyes of its schools
http://www.examiner.com/public-education-in-l...
Stuart Goldurs

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Today, December 1, 2010, LAUSD sticks another thumb into the eyes of its schools. Time after time I have declared what the district should cut first--so today I chose to speculate what Wikileaks might find in the LAUSD archives:(The following is fictitious)

http://www.examiner.com/public-education-in-l...
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This district is such BS. They are currently HIRING special education assistants, but still giving their current special education assistants FURLOUGH DAYS. WHY not keep the hiring freeze on these positions and restore their current employees work days? The uninvolved public doesn't see what is really going on with this district.
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I feel bad for the people that lost their jobs but for those that got bumped I have to say, be grateful that you still have a job. I used to work 5 minutes from home and when my position was moved to Orange County I could either go and keep my job or be unemployed. It can take up to two hours to get home but I am grateful to get a paycheck and have benefits for my family.
Buildings and Unions

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So if attendence is down 10% since 2002; why did LAUSD spend billions of dollars to build numerous new schools in the past 8 years? That money could have been used to buy electronic teaching devices such as computers. Back when I was growing up in the 1960s, our class size was 32 students for every one teacher. The class size is smaller now and technology is much better. They should use technology to help teach the students and cut the staffing. It is a no brainer. Our schools are bloated because of the labor unions.
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Buildings and Unions wrote:
So if attendence is down 10% since 2002; why did LAUSD spend billions of dollars to build numerous new schools in the past 8 years? That money could have been used to buy electronic teaching devices such as computers. Back when I was growing up in the 1960s, our class size was 32 students for every one teacher. The class size is smaller now and technology is much better. They should use technology to help teach the students and cut the staffing. It is a no brainer. Our schools are bloated because of the labor unions.
The massive building of new schools was based on the population at that time. That population was primarily a transient, illegal alien one, but LAUSD was already taken over by foreign interests so there was stopping it. Most of that population soon moved to other states such as Arizona and Nevada. So, the next time you hear, "It's for the children!" ask, "Who's children? Mexico's or American (real ones)?" BTW, Nevada is now has the lowest graduation rate and guess why.
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These government unions will ultimately lead to the complete collapse of California. It's less than a year away. The rest of the USA will not tolerate bailing out irresponsible sociliasts and government freeloaders in CA.
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P.S. besides the Charter Schools opening and opting for less expensive and experienced teachers. We are not talking about the Kennedy school that was renovated at the tune of $578 million from the old Ambassador Hotel.

Who was the one that made the money on that deal?
That school is a white elephant and part of the reason you cannot trust the LAUSD to manage money and education. They would sooner outsource to the Foreigners like at Magnolia Science Academy and the Gulen Movement.

“Quotes don't replace thinking”

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Govt Worker wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong idiot, government jobs are supposed to be recession proof!
If that was an attempt at sarcasm, then you typically should avoid words like "idiot". If you are serious, then you really are an entitled worker - and you're welcome for my tax dollars that will fund your retirement based on your lifetime of average performance.

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