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“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#1 Apr 12, 2010
Phelps, Fred (1929–)

Fred Phelps, the leading anti-gay extremist in the United States, was born on November 13, 1929, in Meridian, Mississippi. His father was a detective on the Southern Railroad, and his mother died of cancer when Phelps was five years of age. After schooling in Meridian, he was ordained as a Baptist minister at age seventeen in Utah. Phelps enrolled but never graduated from Bob Jones University. He moved to Topeka, Kansas, in 1954 where he formed the unaffiliated Westboro Baptist Church in 1956. Phelps earned a law degree in 1961 at Washburn University in Topeka, Kansas, and worked for several years as a civil rights lawyer. He was disbarred by the state of Kansas in 1979 for improper conduct and lack of legal ethics. Phelps also had political ambitions and twice has run for governor and was a candidate for the U.S. Senate in Kansas in 1992.

Phelps is aggressive in his gay-bashing activities and uses the Bible as the basis for his opposition to homosexuality. Most of his time is spent in leading demonstrations at parks, funerals, government buildings, schools, churches, and newspaper offices protesting against gay rights. He started his anti-gay campaign in June 1991. His protests at the funerals of AIDS victims led the Kansas legislature to ban such demonstrations in 1992. In 1994 Phelps earned national attention for his violent verbal confrontation with poet Maya Angelou, forcing her to cancel a speaking engagement at Emporia State University. He attacked her because she had spoken at a public function with President Bill Clinton. Phelps believed in retaliating against anyone associated with President Bill Clinton because he believed Clinton was pro-gays. Several times Phelps has been arrested for assault, but he has never served time in jail. Phelps has spent the last decade traveling around the country promoting anti-gay demonstrations, including those at the funerals of former U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater, Frank Sinatra, and President Clinton’s mother. Anyone that Phelps interpreted as soft on gays was a target. Phelps’s most high-profile protest came at the 1998 funeral of Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student who was killed because he was gay. His financial support comes from members of his church, most of whom are members of his family. Three of his thirteen children have repudiated him and have accused him of being an abusive parent, but the others strongly support him with funds gathered from their law practices. Eleven of his children are lawyers.

Phelps intimidates his opponents by threatening and instituting lawsuits. Politicians in the state of Kansas have been reluctant to confront him. His insistence that the only true Jews are Christians and his attacks on gays horrify mainstream religious leaders. Phelps spends around $250,000 annually traveling around the country fighting gay rights. Phelps also operates a Web site that advances his anti-gay program. See also Gay Bashing; Gay Liberation Movement.

Suggested readings: Stephen Braun,“Pastor Who Takes Pride in Hate Traces the Emotion to Bible,” Los Angeles Times (November 16, 1999), p. A5; Sandi Dolbee,“Witness for the Persecution,” San Diego Union-Tribune (June 2, 2000), p. E1; Annie Gowen,“Holy Hell; Fred Phelps, Clergyman, Is on a Crusade,” Washington Post (November 12, 1995), p. F1; Jim Henderson,“Preaching Hate,” Houston Chronicle (August 2, 1998), p. 1; Southern Poverty Law Center,“A City Held Hostage,” SPLC Intelligence Report 101 (Spring 2001): 19–27; Southern Poverty Law Center,“Halting Abusive Lawyers,” SPLC Intelligence Reports 101 (Spring 2001): 60.

- Encyclopedia of Modern American Extremists and Extremist Groups by Stephen E. Atkins. Greenwood Press, Westport, CT, 2002. Page 243

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#2 Apr 12, 2010
The Phelps family consists of:

* Pastor Fred Phelps: head of Westboro Baptist Church
* Marge Phelps, wife of Fred and mother of their 13 children. The children are listed as follows, from oldest to youngest.
* Fred Phelps Jr., staff lawyer at the Kansas Department of Corrections
* Mark Phelps, businessman in Southern California, estranged from the family
* Katherine Phelps-Griffin, law license was indefinitely suspended effective in August 1993 for 30 counts of giving worthless checks
* Margie Phelps, director of re-entry for the Kansas Department of Corrections and a lawyer
* Shirley Phelps-Roper, lawyer at Phelps-Chartered
* Nate Phelps, businessman in Southern California, estranged from family
* Jonathan Phelps, lawyer at Phelps-Chartered
* Rebekah Phelps-Davis, lawyer at Phelps-Chartered
* Elizabeth Phelps, lawyer, no longer in practice
* Tim Phelps, lawyer and employee of the Shawnee County Jail
* Dortha Bird (nee Phelps), lawyer practicing independently in Topeka, estranged from family
* Rachel Phelps, lawyer at Phelps-Chartered
* Abigail Phelps, works for the Topeka Juvenile Correctional Facility, part of the Juvenile Justice Authority
* 54 grandchildren
* Five great-grandchildren

- Source: The Phelps Family, Witchita Eagle, Apr. 2, 2005. Sidebar to Road to Westboro: What led Fred Phelps to his beliefs and actions?

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#3 Apr 12, 2010
The Westboro Baptist Church, a hate group masquerading as a Christian church, was the subject of a documentary by Louis Theroux.

They call themselves the most hated family in the US and they picket funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. So what did Louis Theroux make of the Phelpses after three weeks?

In any country, let alone one as patriotic as the US, few actions are as provocative as protesting at a soldier’s funeral.

The Phelps family pickets mourners across the country, to mark what it describes as God’s revenge on the US for tolerating homosexuality.

Their actions are in the name of the Westboro Baptist Church, which numbers 71 and is headed by “Gramps”, preacher Fred Phelps. The church, which is based in Topeka, Kansas, mostly comprises his extended family.

Louis Theroux, himself no stranger to people with unconventional views, says the Phelpses are the most extreme people he has ever met. But in the following interview, he reveals how three weeks with them left him perplexed by their motivation.
[...]

What we’re trying to do in the documentary is look at an activity that is so antisocial, so strange, so futile and at its worst, so cruel, and we’re saying “Why? Why do that?”, especially when you seem to be, for the most part, kind and sensitive people. We’re exploring what is cruelty, trying to explain how something that really does very often just amount to cruelty could be perpetuated and passed down in a family. Why would nice people do such horrible things?
[...]

I think that the pastor is not a very nice person. I think he’s an angry person who’s twisted the Bible and picked and chosen verses that support his anger, that sort of justify his anger, and he’s instilled that in his children and they’ve passed it on to their children. Although the second and third generation are by and large quite nice people from what I saw, they still live under the influence of their Gramps.
[...]
- Source: The Most Hated Family in America, BBC, UK, Mar. 30, 2007

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#4 Apr 12, 2010
The Most Hated Family In America Documentary
You Never Heard Such Hatred Since Hitler
One Child Gets Hit In The Head At A Picket
Cult Style Home Life Etc.

PT 1


Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pt 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
momullins

United States

#5 Apr 12, 2010
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
The Most Hated Family In America Documentary
You Never Heard Such Hatred Since Hitler
One Child Gets Hit In The Head At A Picket
Cult Style Home Life Etc.
PT 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bOrz5k0jWdUXX
Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
there inbreed and hell bound

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#6 Apr 13, 2010
Stupid people generally die stupid deaths. This family has managed to stay alive. I'm guessing it's because someone in the family is not stupid.

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#7 Apr 13, 2010
Lucifer_666 wrote:
Stupid people generally die stupid deaths. This family has managed to stay alive. I'm guessing it's because someone in the family is not stupid.
If they take their stupid asses to Europe it just might be the death of them. The plane crash in Amsterdam [ not the one with the Polish pres.in Russia } had Turks on it .You just don't go fu*king around ,pizzing off Muslims and live to tell about . They don't give two lousy f**ks about blowing your head off or tossing a bomb into a crowd . Could be they're about to make their fatal mistake .

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#9 Apr 13, 2010
Apparently I didn't make this point clear enough, so the paragraph has been revised to address his concerns. Of course, the part below dealing with Phelps and his cult's misuse of the Bible to justify their anti-gay bigotry and hatemongering is applicable regardless of sexual orientation.]
Below is a typical example of their pronouncements. Please especially note how:
Objective reality & facts are irrelevant to their ego-defensive bulwark of beliefs.
They quote certain people & authors with no regard to their meaning in context.
They selectively accept certain portions of the Bible as true for others but not themselves, as well as accept other portions of the Bible as true for themselves but not others.
They ignore & knowingly violate other portions of the Bible, some completely & others at their whim --even while claiming that the entire Bible is literally true.[I don't accept the whole Bible to be true either, but at least I admit it. I don't even accept everything Jesus supposedly said. For example, if he truly said it, Jesus's statement that a woman whose husband divorces her commits adultery if she remarries (even though the man does not commit adultery if he remarries): although probably trying to use guilt to get husbands to remain within the marriage (especially in his culture where only men had the right to divorce their spouses and could do so for any reason --or none at all), adultery requires an existing marriage by definition --not an ex-marriage, and it is so fundamentally irrational & unjust to the woman that it simply isn't true.]
They ignore the fact that Jesus, who they falsely claim is the centerpiece of their beliefs, never once singled out homosexuals or their relationships for condemnation --and in fact made it clear through his more general statements that it is not only wrong to judge & condemn them, but that they are equal to heterosexuals & heterosexual relationships.
They love to quote such suspect authors as:
PAUL: who "converted" many years after Jesus died and apparently knew and understood little of what Jesus taught and therefore repeatedly introduced dogma which Jesus clearly rejected or said nothing about, thereby fundamentally altering Jesus's teachings. Even if Jesus appeared to and chastised Paul for persecuting his followers, it was absurd for Paul to interpret this to mean that all of his other personal beliefs and prejudices were somehow true and approved by Jesus: beliefs and prejudices which heavil y influenced his selection of what Judaic dogma to include in or reject from his particular version of Christianity --including some parts of Leviticus, but not others.
those who wrote LEVITICUS: who repeatedly contradict the Ten Commandments; who cynically manipulated the people into accepting their authority by proclaiming common superstitions, prejudices & scapegoating as legally mandated "truths" falsely attributed to God; & who were essentially involved in a power consolidation & grab by the Priest Class --giving them sweeping control over the daily lives of the people & assuring for themselves material wealth in the guise of demanding for themselves valuable "sacrifi ces" falsely claimed to be required by & given to God.

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#10 Apr 13, 2010
That's why Jesus stopped the Phelps-like mob from the Leviticus-mandated murder of the woman for adultery --with both the adultery & the murder (unlike homosexuality) prohibited by the Ten Commandments, deftly using the only argument to stop her murder which might appeal to such a mob. That's also why Jesus attacked & condemned the lucrative trading in such "sacrifices" at the Temple].
those who wrote the mythological story of Sodom & Gomorrah: even if such cities existed and were destroyed in some natural disaster, the description of the people in those cities and attributing the disasters to God punishing them for wickedness prove only that an enemy or competing culture which survived them wrote the account and were using mythology/religion to bolster up & refine common irrational beliefs & prejudices --so those in power could further consolidate and amass even more power & wealth, as well as officially designate a convenient and useful scapegoat class.
Interestingly, the Phelps also frequently refer to homosexual attraction as a "fleshly lust" in the same category as heterosexual attraction --which I believe is a personal admission for them. Of course, we will never know this with any degree of certainty until they either admit it, or unless their sexual arousal is monitored carefully using sophisticated measuring devices while they watch graphic male-male "pornography". But given the existing evidence (including recent evidence that a large percentage -- perhaps even a substantial majority-- of those males who label themselves as both heterosexual AND anti-gay are in fact sexually aroused by other males --which of course makes them liars, frauds & hypocrites), I believe that truly objective people will come to the same conclusion. Judge for yourself.
I also encourage any males who have ever had sex with Fred or Benjamin --or anyone else who has had homosexual or any non-marital sex with any of the Phelps clan or members of their Westboro Baptist Church-- to publicly tell their stories now, to publicize their hypocrisy and stop the Phelps from doing any more damage.
In Utah, Fred Phelps has old Utah connections. In the summer of 1947, at the age of 17, he came to Vernal Utah to convert the Mormon heathens with daily tent revivals. When several Mormons --after listening respectfully to an anti-Mormon speech which had been advertised on a local radio staion-- started asking questions & showed some unhappiness with being cut off after just one question, Phelps lunged at one of them while screaming threats, insults & damnation; he had to be bodily restrained by a co-preacher who now believes that Phelps, although brilliant & now a masterful lawyer [Note: Unibomber Theodore Koczinsky is brilliant & a masterful mathematician], showed signs of serious mental illness even back then and long ago became heretical even within their own shared fundamentalist Christian sect.

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#11 Apr 13, 2010
Above excerpt from
http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/phelps.htm

I guess there were to may curse words in the first half for Topix . They didn't let it go through.
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#12 Apr 13, 2010
http://www.nndb.com/people/908/000025833/

Here's another link verifying alot of this Lilith.Not to mention,It looks like Fred likes to hit 10 month old babies. And He must have not read it when God says, Husbands LOVE your wives.
Or , FATHER'S PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH.
Check out what he says about wives.

Hey Freddie,News Flash, God created them male and female,created He them,and He called THEIR name Adam.(Gen5:2) That's right Fred.God did not seperate the 2.These two shall be one flesh.She's not your dog,or mudrug..
Adam called her woman,Adam called her Eve.God called their name Adam.

If you're not pleased to dwell with him,Mrs.Phelps,YOU ARE FREE TO GO.The Bible,said so.If he was pleased, he wouldn't be a raving lunatic.Reminds me of the Mad Man of Gaterene.Anyone else?
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#13 Apr 13, 2010
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
The Most Hated Family In America Documentary
You Never Heard Such Hatred Since Hitler
One Child Gets Hit In The Head At A Picket
Cult Style Home Life Etc.
PT 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bOrz5k0jWdUXX
Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pt 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Wow,She was right about one thing.They ARE EVIL angels.uhhu.
God is good and Kind and abhorrs their kind of evil,all evil.
Every MAN IS given a chance by JESUS,EVERY MAN IS WHO JESUS DIED FOR.That Shirley Phelps is a LIAR.She and her family twist the Bible to suit them.And only them.From the sounds of it,She thinks they are the only ones going to Heaven.Think again Shirley.

Jesus IS LOVE,Not this hate you teach your children.You and your brother are sick,sick,sick.The Lord Rebuke you today Phelps family.
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#14 Apr 13, 2010
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
Above excerpt from
http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/phelps.htm
I guess there were to may curse words in the first half for Topix . They didn't let it go through.
Got a little PO'd did ya?

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#15 Apr 13, 2010
Right_Way wrote:
http://www.nndb.com/people/908 /000025833/
Here's another link verifying alot of this Lilith.Not to mention,It looks like Fred likes to hit 10 month old babies. And He must have not read it when God says, Husbands LOVE your wives.
Or , FATHER'S PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH.
Check out what he says about wives.
Hey Freddie,News Flash, God created them male and female,created He them,and He called THEIR name Adam.(Gen5:2) That's right Fred.God did not seperate the 2.These two shall be one flesh.She's not your dog,or mudrug..
Adam called her woman,Adam called her Eve.God called their name Adam.
If you're not pleased to dwell with him,Mrs.Phelps,YOU ARE FREE TO GO.The Bible,said so.If he was pleased, he wouldn't be a raving lunatic.Reminds me of the Mad Man of Gaterene.Anyone else?
I wouldn't stay two seconds with a brute like old Freddy . I despise controlling men . Right here is the cream of the crop
on exposing the Phelps family . It even has court records .They've
all been arrested,charged, and convicted of crimes and fraud ,plus
more on the horrible abuse of their kids. I don't see how they survived . http://www.blank.org/addict/
I want to hear old Penis's excuses for all of this .
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#16 Apr 13, 2010
To Nates Wife and Nate: I seen that stuff that Fred says about your wife...

Nate,If you're out there seeing any of this. Tell your Wife,Jesus LOVES her.Tell her,that crazy dad of yours,doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to your wife being married before.

Bible says if they be Not pleased to dwell,You're free to Go.And also The woman at the well,Is one of my favorite stories.God has always given me alot out of that one.
Married 5 times,and the one she was with now,was not her husband.She had to draw her water alone,Because the others were not allowed to be with her.(Religious Law)She was a Samaritan..But oh,Here comes Jesus..Speaks To HER.Talks to HER.And the first person in the Bible He actually (First)admitted to as being the Messiah.
Jesus has such compassion on a downtrodden Woman.(Any woman or man,But religion hurt the women more)
A Woman,And a 5 time married one at that.Living with a man.It never said those other 5 were dead.
They may have been,But it never said.

Now I also love the woman brought in adultery.Where was the man?The other MEN didn't bring him,No,They brought the Woman.Law stated that they caused each other to commit adultery.But here is Jesus.Drawing in the dirt.(I like to picture Him,Writing Every sin known to man),But He says..."He that's without sin,cast the first stone."
None of them could.But Here is Jesus,The ONE that COULD(He was without sin),BUT DIDN'T.Jesus is FORGIVING and Loving.He says,Then neither do I accuse you.Go and sin no more. Hooray for you,Finding that with your Wife.

I Hope you see this Fred,You Liar,You demon possessed Mad Man of Gatherene.Your name should be Legion. God told you not to even provoke your children to wrath.Atleast YOUR sins won't be visited on Nate,Marks and the 2 daughters . You, Won't get away with Lying on MY GOD.
I AM One proclaiming the GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF MY LORD.
YOUR Works are NOT acceptable.The Lord Rebuke you today.You need a good preacher to cast out those demons Fred.
He's Got a Millstone,For your neck,For each and every child you offended(hurt).
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#17 Apr 13, 2010
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't stay two seconds with a brute like old Freddy . I despise controlling men . Right here is the cream of the crop
on exposing the Phelps family . It even has court records .They've
all been arrested,charged, and convicted of crimes and fraud ,plus
more on the horrible abuse of their kids. I don't see how they survived . http://www.blank.org/addict/
I want to hear old Penis's excuses for all of this .
I'll check it out.Phineas is watching Ferb,I mean Fred.
Low coal

Ossining, NY

#18 Apr 14, 2010
In 1984 Fred phelps was arrested at a mo rest area bathroom for engaging in homosexual acts with a 16 year old
Right_Way

Mooresville, NC

#19 Apr 14, 2010
Low coal wrote:
In 1984 Fred phelps was arrested at a mo rest area bathroom for engaging in homosexual acts with a 16 year old
Really? Not a suprised really,But as in,... Know where we can read about this?

“Internutz Ilumi-naughty ”

Since: Oct 09

Leiden, Netherlands

#20 Apr 14, 2010
Low coal wrote:
In 1984 Fred phelps was arrested at a mo rest area bathroom for engaging in homosexual acts with a 16 year old
Rev. Jack told me about that too . Not only is Freddy boy a flaming closet gay in denial but a child molester as well.
WVMntBoy

Welch, WV

#21 Apr 15, 2010
This is all because his son that is estranged from the family is gay that is why he is not with them. He is an angry stupid man.

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