Wis. student sues school district over religious drawing

A student has filed a federal lawsuit alleging Tomah school officials censored his drawing because it featured a cross and a reference to a Bible verse. Full Story
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“Vote Conservative”

Since: Feb 08

St. Paul

#23 Mar 31, 2008
The first amendment for those that do not know the exact wording.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

What this school did was violate this portion "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" of the Constitution. It is not difficult to understand or look up.

Also, note that no where in the Constitution or it's amendments does it say you have the "Right to be Free from Religion or Religious people" or the "Right to not be offended". If your offended by someone it is not a violation of your rights unless the offense committed is against an expressly granted right and you were denied that right.

This however, has been hopeless twisted by the courts over the years and by legislation that does actively violate the First Amendment that the courts refuse to correct. Now it may be a violation of your rights if I say "God Bless you" to you when you sneeze.

Our education system is the root cause of all of this. They have refused to teach the basic of the Constitution to students for the better part of 40 years and today people are ignorant of the Constitution and what it really means.

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“whatalongstrange tripitsbeen ”

Since: Feb 08

Minneapolis

#24 Mar 31, 2008
sue, sue , sue ,sue...people in this country are way too quick to want to sue. How did our country get this way, never used to be this way. Hell I might get sued for writing this thread.
drink the holy water

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Mar 31, 2008
Where are Jesse Jackson and the Reverend Al Sharpton? This kid must be white.
Lazarus

Winona, MN

#27 Mar 31, 2008
Enough of the hand-wringing and complaining over this.
Concerned parents and taxpayers EVERYWHERE have to start voting in people who have a moral compass on their school boards. Because this type of religious censorship will be coming to a school district near you, if it hasn't already.
JP - St Paul

United States

#28 Apr 1, 2008
To imply someone who is not Christian does not have a "moral compass" is insulting. The more people go on about that makes me wonder why our world has dedicated so much anger and hate all in the name of one supernatural entity or another. If religion did not exist and was entirely replaced with reason and what benefits mankind and our planet, what would our world be like?(Yes, too deep a question to be answered in this forum).
John - St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Apr 1, 2008
The U.S. Constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...".

Here we go again with another issue tied to a government funded educational institution whose administration is so poorly educated they should dig ditches instead. Was the student establishing a federal religion? NO! Was he practicing freedom of expression (speech)? YES! Pretty simple wasn't it. Fire the teacher and any admin people involved, then take their citizenship away. They do not value others, why should anyone respect theirs.
Akron OH

Akron, OH

#30 Apr 1, 2008
I too am tired of the gothic and other cult, religious beliefs being okay to have in the schools, but not Christian. Majority rules in this country, correct. Isn't that how we vote, if 5 councilman say no to something and 3 says yes, we don't do it. What happened to 1 million plus saying yes and a few saying no to bibles in courthouses and painting on walls and suddenly we have to take all of it down. I'm proud that this student has stood up for Christianity. God bless you!!!
John - St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Apr 1, 2008
JP - St Paul wrote:
To imply someone who is not Christian does not have a "moral compass" is insulting. The more people go on about that makes me wonder why our world has dedicated so much anger and hate all in the name of one supernatural entity or another. If religion did not exist and was entirely replaced with reason and what benefits mankind and our planet, what would our world be like?(Yes, too deep a question to be answered in this forum).
Good points, let's talk about Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao...who else used reason to rule?
The world was, by today's standards, uncivilized until Christ's message impacted and changed the world. Even the ancient Greeks would leave their live, unwanted children in the forests, etc. for the animals to kill and eat. The list goes on and on... The master of pragmatism, John Dewey, believed as you do and the result is a dysfunctional education system in the U.S. that has been this way since the 60's. You want deep...you can't handle deep!
John - St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Apr 1, 2008
Lazarus wrote:
Enough of the hand-wringing and complaining over this.
Concerned parents and taxpayers EVERYWHERE have to start voting in people who have a moral compass on their school boards. Because this type of religious censorship will be coming to a school district near you, if it hasn't already.
Excellent points, Laz... the problem is that the school board members 'believe' they are moral, even Christian, people. They go to mainstream denomination churches where they learn about global warming, feeding the world's people, lots of social issues ans concerns, but never the Word or God in full historical context and from the original Greek and Hebrew. They become apostate believers and apply 'moral' relativism to their decision making. We know what the outcome of this is and this is what you see as the moral failure of the board members. If you wish to rid us of those who are destroying both the academic opportunity and 'programming' our children toward socialism and beyond, DO NOT EVER VOTE FOR A TEACHER'S UNION ENDORSED CANDIDATE! 85% of MN's school district's boards are controlled by union selected, endorsed and elected candidates...
call me old fashioned

Central, SC

#33 Apr 1, 2008
JTY
that was the funniest one ever

“whatalongstrange tripitsbeen ”

Since: Feb 08

Minneapolis

#34 Apr 1, 2008
you religious people crack me up. Go bow down before the one you serve.
Big Jim McKay

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Apr 1, 2008
John - St Paul wrote:
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Good points, let's talk about Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao...
Hitler was a Lutheran, the rest were secular.
Michelle Autry

Athens, GA

#36 Apr 1, 2008
I am so proud of you!!!! You DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT to honor our savior! That is whats wrong with the world today!!! Sue those rascals, honey. You certainly have my blessings and prayers!!! Always stand up for Jesus, no matter what!
Michelle Autry

Athens, GA

#37 Apr 1, 2008
77deadhead wrote:
you religious people crack me up. Go bow down before the one you serve.
and believe me honey, when HE comes back...YOU WILL!!
I'll pray for you.
Randy

Saint Paul, MN

#38 Apr 1, 2008
Michelle Autry wrote:
Sue those rascals, honey.
He will have to do it without legal representation, it seems. Luke 11:46-52, if Scripture is important.
Pete

Hudson, WI

#39 Apr 1, 2008
Shouldn't we use school tax dollars to teach and leave religion up to the families. I am sure much worse things get good grades in art class all the time. Is love now a crime now? Would we would all be better if we lived in hate and war? What a narrow mined school district.

“Vote Conservative”

Since: Feb 08

St. Paul

#40 Apr 1, 2008
77deadhead wrote:
you religious people crack me up. Go bow down before the one you serve.
Actually that was what this student was trying to do. He was expressing his Religious beliefs and was told he was not aloud to.

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“whatalongstrange tripitsbeen ”

Since: Feb 08

Minneapolis

#41 Apr 2, 2008
Michelle Autry wrote:
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and believe me honey, when HE comes back...YOU WILL!!
I'll pray for you.
spare me. please don't

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