Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

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Che Reagan Christ

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Nov 24, 2012
 
xxxrayted wrote:
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If they were skilled workers, they wouldn't need unions.
Right. Because corporations are so benevolent. The CEOs care about their labor and not their own salaries and bonuses.

You would have made an excellent slave.
xxxrayted

Beachwood, OH

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What we need to do is abolish the minimum wage, don't you think? That way, instead of labor fighting for better jobs with better pay, the working man can eat their own competing for the lowest paying job possible with the worst working conditions. Honest to Christ, I have never encountered a person who is so willing as you are to be someone else's bitch.
Yes, I do think we need to abolish minimum wage. Minimum wage workers are generally part-time people who either supplement the family income or are college kids working for extra money. All minimum wage accomplishes is inflating us even further from the world market because of the domino effect it has on wages that pay more than minimum wage.

Sure, labor fights for better pay and better jobs, but when push comes to shove, companies like Hostess either fold up or leave the state or country. That's what all that fighting accomplished. Until that time, the costs gets passed on to consumers who in return demand cheaper products. But I guess the tale of our auto industry didn't teach you that yet.
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Nov 24, 2012
 
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Right. Because corporations are so benevolent. The CEOs care about their labor and not their own salaries and bonuses.
You would have made an excellent slave.
The job of a CEO is to make the company the most profit that he or she can. That's their only concern. Companies did not open up to give people jobs. Companies open up to produce products and services for consumers. That's it.
Che Reagan Christ

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Yes, I do think we need to abolish minimum wage. Minimum wage workers are generally part-time people who either supplement the family income or are college kids working for extra money. All minimum wage accomplishes is inflating us even further from the world market because of the domino effect it has on wages that pay more than minimum wage.
Sure, labor fights for better pay and better jobs, but when push comes to shove, companies like Hostess either fold up or leave the state or country. That's what all that fighting accomplished. Until that time, the costs gets passed on to consumers who in return demand cheaper products. But I guess the tale of our auto industry didn't teach you that yet.
Why even have pay at all? We should go back to the glory days of the company store.
Che Reagan Christ

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The job of a CEO is to make the company the most profit that he or she can. That's their only concern. Companies did not open up to give people jobs. Companies open up to produce products and services for consumers. That's it.
Exactly. Yet you think labor can exist based on the good graces of the CEO. It doesn't work that way. Left to their own devices, we would regress back to the days of child labor, 50 cents per hour, and workers being maimed and killed to add a penny of profit.
Save Yourself

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Or how about no social programs and people will learn how to work? Let charities take care of those who can't work. Oh, I forgot, we would rather support them and their huge expanding families than to hear them bitch and moan. If you're an American, you shouldn't complain about anything. Every time you get punched in the gut, you're supposed to take it and shut up. That's what made this country a great nation in the first place; nobody complained or fought for anything.
Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Environmental issues, gay marriage, religion in schools and public places, guns, taking even more money from the wealthy. We can complain about those issues. You can complain about how we don't take enough from productive people. That's in the liberal handbook. But when government takes from you, buddy, you better keep your silence.
It's almost as if America isn't buying the crap you've been selling. Let's look to the last election for answers. What you fail to mention is the fact that people like you have had a monopoly on this country for decades and look what it got us. Your kind gleefully jammed your religious garbage into our public schools and ignored the fact that the founders of this country made it very clear that one religion should not rule this nation. Really, when I walk out to my car at night, I'm not looking over my shoulder for gay marriage or abortion or Commies. I'm looking for the nutball with the high capacity Christian sponsored NRA gun in his hand.
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Nov 24, 2012
 
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Exactly. Yet you think labor can exist based on the good graces of the CEO. It doesn't work that way. Left to their own devices, we would regress back to the days of child labor, 50 cents per hour, and workers being maimed and killed to add a penny of profit.
Sure it will. I guess that's why all these illegals come to this country; because Americans are so willing to work for nothing.

In life, you don't depend on the good graces of anybody. You work hard, get an education or invest in your own company. My middle-east beverage store owner never needed minimum wage, neither did my Indian owned Mr.Hero or Seven Eleven. They come here barely knowing the language, work hard and save every dime while learning the language a little better. Then they take that money and open up their own business.

Americans can't do that because they are used to being pampered by government and unions. There is no motivation to better oneself. Somebody will come along and make it right for me. Why should I try?
Che Reagan Christ

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Sure it will. I guess that's why all these illegals come to this country; because Americans are so willing to work for nothing.
In life, you don't depend on the good graces of anybody. You work hard, get an education or invest in your own company. My middle-east beverage store owner never needed minimum wage, neither did my Indian owned Mr.Hero or Seven Eleven. They come here barely knowing the language, work hard and save every dime while learning the language a little better. Then they take that money and open up their own business.
Americans can't do that because they are used to being pampered by government and unions. There is no motivation to better oneself. Somebody will come along and make it right for me. Why should I try?
You never did tell us how your old man likes his union pension.
Unions

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If the unions are the way to go, then why don't unions start their own companies?
Pops

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It's almost as if America isn't buying the crap you've been selling. Let's look to the last election for answers. What you fail to mention is the fact that people like you have had a monopoly on this country for decades and look what it got us. Your kind gleefully jammed your religious garbage into our public schools and ignored the fact that the founders of this country made it very clear that one religion should not rule this nation. Really, when I walk out to my car at night, I'm not looking over my shoulder for gay marriage or abortion or Commies. I'm looking for the nutball with the high capacity Christian sponsored NRA gun in his hand.
Just 4 questions....Would you please identify who has had a monopoly for decades?
Also ID who is jamming religious garbage into schools & which schools?
The 'founders' made sure that the government would not endoese any religion. They did NOT ban religion.
What's a 'high capacity Christian'?
Pops

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Sry for the typo...I meant 'endorse'
xxxrayted

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You never did tell us how your old man likes his union pension.
He loves it. He's been collecting for nearly 20 years. Now all those younger bricklayers are footing the bill because all the funds he contributed to it have been long gone for years now.
Save Yourself

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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Just 4 questions....Would you please identify who has had a monopoly for decades?
Also ID who is jamming religious garbage into schools & which schools?
The 'founders' made sure that the government would not endoese any religion. They did NOT ban religion.
What's a 'high capacity Christian'?
Christian Conservatives, the most wealthy and numerous voting force in our nation have had a monopoly on this country for decades. Rightwing Christian conservatives made numerous attempts to force their personal religious beliefs into taxpayers public schools for many years. Since this isn't obvious to you, allow me to be the first to welcome you to America.

A "high capacity Christian", in this instance, is what is known as a fragment of a sentence. Perhaps if your lazy foodstamp riding @ss would have finished the entire sentence...
Che Reagan Christ

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He loves it. He's been collecting for nearly 20 years. Now all those younger bricklayers are footing the bill because all the funds he contributed to it have been long gone for years now.
Sounds like that union really screwed him.
Che Reagan Christ

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Save Yourself wrote:
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Christian Conservatives, the most wealthy and numerous voting force in our nation have had a monopoly on this country for decades. Rightwing Christian conservatives made numerous attempts to force their personal religious beliefs into taxpayers public schools for many years. Since this isn't obvious to you, allow me to be the first to welcome you to America.
A "high capacity Christian", in this instance, is what is known as a fragment of a sentence. Perhaps if your lazy foodstamp riding @ss would have finished the entire sentence...
Pops doesn't even understand his own posts.
Loren Eberly

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#14195
Nov 24, 2012
 
Wal-Mart Employees Strike:

USA Labor Law demands 50% of every employer’s employees that cannot educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. With money derived from wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit. Form or join a labor union. And get a contract with their employer. Demanding their employer comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Hold Venders accountable to collect sales tax without compensation. On the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
xxxrayted

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Sounds like that union really screwed him.
Not him, but the guys that are working under that union now.
media exploitation

West Union, OH

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Nov 24, 2012
 
"Che Reagan Christ"

I assume you realize that November is almost over and nothing has happened. You said you didn't know why you were responding to this forum because Nibiru was about to come close to Earth.

Could you be a troll?

How much longer do we have before Nibiru comes?

Waiting..........
Duke for Mayor

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If they were skilled workers, they wouldn't need unions.
If you were a Teamster you'd earn more money, have better benefits, and do less bitchin.

woof
Duke for Mayor

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xxxrayted wrote:
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Not him, but the guys that are working under that union now.
So what you're claiming is that every single other pensioner bricklayer outlived the actuarial tables?

And Raj down at the seven eleven...have you asked him if he'd like his customers to be thrown off of the food stamp program?

You're so full of sh!t its coming out of your ears.

woof

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