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#23731 Mar 6, 2013
A student does not magically appear in the second semester of their 10 grade year educated. The education they have in the 10th grade is the result of the cumulative education they received in the preceding 9 years. It was built layer upon layer in each grade to arrive at the point where the student is taking the OGT.
A student who has learned just 50% of each year's math in elementary and junior high will struggle.
I have taken the tests and am quite surprised by how much I have retained over the years.
I encourage everyone to visit the site and look at the practice tests available for each grade plus the OGT.
These tests were designed to allow the greatest number of students to pass, as such, the OGT is aimed primarily at the lowest common denominator as opposed to the child hoping to get into Harvard.
#23732 Mar 7, 2013
Spot on! Change for the better can be good, however Mrs. Kohls is leading the way of tearing our district apart. We will be the ones left holding the bag for our community long after she's gone on pursuing her political aspirations.
I just hope and pray there is something left when my own kids start their families and might want to move back to where they grew up. At this rate it will be disasterous!
#23733 Mar 7, 2013
If you don't like what's going on, I suggest you pack up and move. Change to the positive is almost never without some measure of pain along the way.
#23734 Mar 7, 2013
Please define what you mean by "leading the way of tearing our district apart".
Exactly how is this transpiring?
By hiring more teachers in areas of need?
By investing in technology that expands it into every classroom?
By investing in keeping our children safe by means of upgraded transportation?
By putting a premium on basic and continual maintenance of our facilities?
By balancing the budget to ensure adequate funding?
By encouraging other options for higher level education for our students and parents?
Please tell us all how.
#23735 Mar 7, 2013
I forgot, Mrs. Kohl's did vote no against Mr. Malone's desire to add a guitar class into the curriculum last year.
And as it stands right now, no new levy will be needed for the next five years.
#23736 Mar 7, 2013
How much do you think teachers should make?
#23737 Mar 7, 2013
Depends upon the teacher, their skill level, what they teach, how well they perform that task, the productivity of that teacher's output (student achievement), how many days per year they work, the teacher's professional demeanor, how they take direction and work to achieve district goals, how well they fit into the program of the school district, and how well they interact with students, parents, and coworkers.
Some teachers are not paid enough and some are well overpaid for the job they do.
Each teacher is an individual with their own set of personal and professional attributes and detriments, to attempt to lump them all into one person does a disservice to the individual.
#23738 Mar 7, 2013
What hypocrites are these Springboro Education Association union activists. Mr. Maney has brainwashed his indoctrinated cult-minded followers and their offspring, to promote shunning of all Springboro taxpayers and their offspring who refuse to protest against our reform-minded elected officials; and join the union activiest in actively promoting collective social justice for teachers as priority over our students educational needs for individual achievements.
Is it public record for citizens to find out just how much MONEY is Mr. Maney being paid in Union dues from hard-working school employees to continue this bullying of parents and community taxpayers, in Maney's attack on this community fighting for unionism empowerment and social justice for teachers?
Does Mr. Maney practice tansparency in his "budget of forced union dues" by reporting to Springboro taxpayers the union's INVESTMENT of our kids' school tax dollars back into the classroom?
The answer is No.
and neither should Mr. Maney's social justice activists spread lies that board representatives are being forced by the state to do the right thing and falsely accuse the board of caring only about the money and not about the students?
#23739 Mar 7, 2013
Reject Ohio Common Core You know, federal government control of school curriculum
#23740 Mar 7, 2013
I would like a dollar amount for the lowest teacher you describe and the highest, what do you think is fair?
#23741 Mar 7, 2013
"On my desk in the Oval Office, I have a little sign that says: There is no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." -Ronald Reagan
An open letter to our children first budgeting BOE majority
Those of us who appreciate and fully support the direction of your leadership for our children's future recognize that reform minded board representatives are not boastful and you never grandstand for public applause to credit yourselves for your amazingly awesome achievements of 2012...
therefore, we grateful citizens just have to spread the truth with applause applause to our school board and district leaders for making us all so BORO PROUD by posting updates on the school board website. Thank You for keeping the commuity informed and we'll be checking the website often for ongoing updates.
#23742 Mar 7, 2013
Springboro Board of Education Highlights from 2012
Investments in our classrooms
A renewed focus on individual student success is critical as we adopt higher standards required by Ohios Common Core Curriculum by 2014-15 ( www.corestandards.org ). Weve invested $350,000 in a highly acclaimed reading curriculum for first through fifth graders, added high school AP and math courses, and reduced some elementary class sizes. And this is just the beginning.
Keeping pace with technology in 2013
We are focused on preparing our students to be career and college ready, which includes encouraging digital learning. The district is working on its first comprehensive technology plan. Our five-year forecast includes $1,100,000 to bring our infrastructure up to date, go wireless in every classroom, build the technology backbone for our schools, and replace 1,100 of the districts aging computers. This is necessary in order to equip our classrooms for the new state tests in 2014.
Innovative problem solving
Our district purchased 20 buses in 2006; however, we have not purchased any since. With no prior plan for bus purchases, we learned that our optimum fleet is 70 buses, and 20 buses will age out of our fleet in the next two to four years. With the administration, we worked to find an affordable solution that will bring 21 new buses to the district over the next five years without placing a disproportionate burden on our budget. And the district is working to revise bus routes for 2013-2014 to be more efficient and cost-effective.
Connecting the community to our schools
A Board of Educations role is to represent the community within the school district, and transparency with our community is a priority. Our board created three committees in 2012budget and finance, policy, and compensation and evaluation. These committees meetings follow Ohios Sunshine Laws: they are open to the public with announced meeting times and published minutes. The bridge with the community has been broadened online and on television as well. Board meeting documents are all available through the district website www.Springboro.org , and board meetings are broadcast on EATV Channel 21 through the Miami Valley Communications Council. Visit www.MVCC.net for the broadcast schedule.
#23743 Mar 7, 2013
Where are they teaching? What are they teaching? What grade are they teaching? How good of a teacher are they? Who will they be teaching? Are they right out of school? Where do they live?(Chicago costs more to live in than say Van Wert, OH) What is the demand for that level teacher that you described in the place you also describe? How many teachers are applying for that job in that place you describe?
Give me a few more answers to the variable and let us see what we can do. The market will set the value of labor. If a person feels they are not paid enough, they are free to seek employment elsewhere in hopes of deriving that pay schedule that reflects their own self worth.
Teachers in Dayton public schools seem to be paid more than in Springboro, but I do not see a mad rush to transfer to the Dayton public schools. There must be other things that factor into the decision to accept one job over the other.
Money is rarely the only factor in the vast majority of economic decisions each of us make on a daily basis.
#23744 Mar 7, 2013
So you are in the group that thinks schools are businesses and not a service provider? Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think schools can generate income (last time I checked) how can you run something like a business when it is clearly not?
#23745 Mar 7, 2013
Our parents never dreamed that we would end up competing with countries that could offer large numbers of highly educated workers willing to work long hours for low wages. But China and India are doing exactly that. Indeed, it turns out that China and India are only the tip of the iceberg. Whereas for most of the 20th century the United States could take pride in having the best-educated workforce in the world, that is no longer true. Over the past 30 years, one country after another has surpassed us in the proportion of their entering workforce with the equivalent of a high school diploma, and many more are on the verge of doing so. Thirty five years ago, the United States could lay claim to having 30 percent of the worlds population of college students. Today that proportion has fallen to 14 percent and is continuing to fall.
While our international counterparts are increasingly getting more education, their young people are getting a better education as well. American students and young adults place anywhere from the middle to the bottom of the pack in all three continuing comparative studies of achievement in mathematics, science, and general literacy in the advanced industrial nations.
While our relative position in the worlds education tables has
continued its long slow decline, the structure of the global economy has continued to evolve. Every day, more and more of the work that people do ends up in a digitized form. From X-rays used for medical diagnostic purposes, to songs, movies, architectural drawings, technical papers,
and novels, that work is saved on a hard disk
and transmitted instantly over the Internet to someone near or far who makes use of it in an endless variety of ways. Because of this is, a swiftly rising number of American workers at every skill level are in direct
competition with workers in every corner of the globe.
If someone can figure out the algorithm for a routine job, chances are that it is economic to automate it. Many good well-paying, middle-class jobs involve routine work of this kind and are rapidly being automated.
Because employers everywhere have access to a worldwide workforce composed of people who do not have to move to participate in work
teams that are truly global. Because this is so, a swiftly rising number of American workers at every skill level are in direct competition with workers in every corner of the globe. So it matters very much that, increasingly, it is
easier and easier for employers everywhere to get workers who are better skilled at lower cost than American workers.
Are we preparing our children for this world?
#23746 Mar 7, 2013
Everything is a business.
Churches, hospitals, "non-profits", local, state and federal government, schools
If you take in money, hire people, pay bills, then you are a business.
#23747 Mar 7, 2013
The Five Year Forecast, approved by this board, shows us requesting a renewal levy. If the renewal levy doesn't pass, we go into deficit spending.
#23748 Mar 7, 2013
America's best retailer showed the rest of the world how to undercut American workers! Sam Walton's strategy from day numero uno was to undercut his competition on virtually item. He knew he would realize less profit per item. But he sold lots more volume, especially when word got around. Lower GP% meant he had to create a anti-debt strategy of expanding into lucrative markets outside Arkansas, eventually creating the Wal-Mart empire. Wal-Mart would have not been anywhere as successful had Walton not utilized cheap foreign labor to minimize and reduce production costs. Sam Walton died in 1992. If Walton were still alive, would he see America's awful foreign debt and terrible economic situation as being partly his fault? Who knows. I'll bet he'd tell all the welfare and disability slackers to get off their arses, finish their educations, get jobs, and get to work.
If our kids are going to compete with the rest of the world, the best place to start is by the establishment of after-school internships and apprecticeships starting in the 10th grade so our kids can have real-world perspectives of what any given field may be like after they graduate.
#23749 Mar 7, 2013
Better hope you made a better impression than you did last time a levy tried to pass around these parts.
#23750 Mar 7, 2013
I will have my kids take full advantage of the PSEO if they can but I am not above the hypocrisy that state money - our tax dollars - are paying for it and there are a lot of adults in the community whose children cannot take advantage of it.
As for the "perfect vehicle to edge your child into the college environment" statement, you are correct for those kids that can handle it. There are a lot of kids that cannot. For someone that continues to write about how many students are failing in the district you don't seem to care about them at the upper level. They need classes at the high school level that will challenge them and that they would be interested in - we cannot assume they should all just go to college early. Beside, I for one would like my child to get the most out of their high school years - they're only young once.
Lastly, as for the electives, I agree, if there are teachers to offer the elective classes and there are students that want to take the electives they will be offered. However, the HS is down to bare-bones in some of the subjects. There are NO teachers available to teach any electives unless you pull teachers from other subjects. I for one do not want an English teacher teaching math and vice versa.
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