Everywhere

Ticonderoga, NY

#21 May 3, 2014
People can only vote where they are residents. This is true everywhere. Many of the summer people you complain about have said that cmpared to where they live (NJ, down state NY) our taxes are reasonable. And for the argument that people are being asked to pay when they don't have students I will say that again, that is the way it is everywhere. If you truly want to make a difference attend a board meeting, run for a seat on the board, volunteer. If you don't want to pay school taxes rent or move out of the United States.
Fort Ti Teach

Binghamton, NY

#22 May 3, 2014
Please folks, understand that as a teacher, I need reliable transportation to school to teach your half-breeds, so I need money for a new BMW. I really don’t care if your kids learn anything or not, so say NO to any mandatory testing.
TiRes

Ticonderoga, NY

#23 May 3, 2014
Everywhere wrote:
People can only vote where they are residents. This is true everywhere. Many of the summer people you complain about have said that cmpared to where they live (NJ, down state NY) our taxes are reasonable. And for the argument that people are being asked to pay when they don't have students I will say that again, that is the way it is everywhere. If you truly want to make a difference attend a board meeting, run for a seat on the board, volunteer. If you don't want to pay school taxes rent or move out of the United States.
Better check again when you say "that is the way it is everywhere". Many states have greatly reduced or no school taxes for seniors. Maybe it is time to change the voting rules when it comes to budget matters where those who are most impacted have no vote. Why should someone who has no skin in the game be allowed to vote for expenditures, while those who foot the bills have no voice at all. Maybe it's time for property owners to be able to vote on budget matters wherever they are paying taxes, not just where they live. Wouldn't that me more equitable?
broke

Ticonderoga, NY

#24 May 3, 2014
Everywhere wrote:
People can only vote where they are residents. This is true everywhere. Many of the summer people you complain about have said that cmpared to where they live (NJ, down state NY) our taxes are reasonable. And for the argument that people are being asked to pay when they don't have students I will say that again, that is the way it is everywhere. If you truly want to make a difference attend a board meeting, run for a seat on the board, volunteer. If you don't want to pay school taxes rent or move out of the United States.
No body likes to pay taxes,yet good citizens are happy to shoulder that part of our civic duty. Where it becomes a point of contention is when the increase to our taxes doubles, or triples the increase to our wages, for DECADES! that's the part that is unsustainable for us,the other half of the eligible voters who don't get several percent plus step pay. The number of students continues to decline yet the number of staff slowly rises,well paid staff that is,and the cost per student reflects the woeful inadequacy of the people forming our budget. I'd like to think it's because they are stupid,,, but we both know they are smarter than me,and definitely motivated by personal gain and not so worried about the plight of their fellow citizens.Every year of late all you hear at budget time is how "bad a shape were in", " it,s going to be close" "don,t know what we,ll do" "it,s the states fault" and on and on ... Bull-crap. Am I the only one that thinks the B.O.E. Is supposed to be representing the Taxpayer ? seems to me the opposite is true in Ti. Lastly as for leaving the country,,, I served my country, and my family has been here for centuries, I,ll never leave and I,ll never back down.
citizen

Ticonderoga, NY

#25 May 3, 2014
broke wrote:
<quoted text>No body likes to pay taxes,yet good citizens are happy to shoulder that part of our civic duty. Where it becomes a point of contention is when the increase to our taxes doubles, or triples the increase to our wages, for DECADES! that's the part that is unsustainable for us,the other half of the eligible voters who don't get several percent plus step pay. The number of students continues to decline yet the number of staff slowly rises,well paid staff that is,and the cost per student reflects the woeful inadequacy of the people forming our budget. I'd like to think it's because they are stupid,,, but we both know they are smarter than me,and definitely motivated by personal gain and not so worried about the plight of their fellow citizens.Every year of late all you hear at budget time is how "bad a shape were in", " it,s going to be close" "don,t know what we,ll do" "it,s the states fault" and on and on ... Bull-crap. Am I the only one that thinks the B.O.E. Is supposed to be representing the Taxpayer ? seems to me the opposite is true in Ti. Lastly as for leaving the country,,, I served my country, and my family has been here for centuries, I,ll never leave and I,ll never back down.
Comma and apostrophe ,'
broke

Ticonderoga, NY

#26 May 3, 2014
citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Comma and apostrophe ,'
If the best I could do was fault someone's punctuation I wouldn't bother, I'm reasonably sure you got my drift without the petty criticism, at least offer something of value.
Agree

Ticonderoga, NY

#27 May 4, 2014
broke wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that they used the modified formula to keep them under the max allowable cap, it,s still UNSUSTAINABLE! If one of you people with a "brain" could convince me otherwise I,m all ears. As for the district wide vote, If you took all the people affiliated with the school It is half the voters in the district that vote.Sure there are a lot of eligible voters but a good portion are low income or no income,their rent is free{we pay} or heavily subsidized so if the budget goes up every year they don,t care,and they won,t be bothered to vote that would cut into TV and beer time.You people don,t care if the school goes belly up,,,Your wages are protected by the Triborough act and your pensions are protected as well,so let,s grab all we can while we can,and screw" them guys" who weren't smart enough to major in education.
I agree. It is shocking that the 2013 3rd grade test scores revealed only 10% of our students were on grade level. What happens next? Raises for everyone! Worst performing school in the area. Poverty is not an excuse for low test scores, bad teaching is.
mother of 4

Ticonderoga, NY

#28 May 4, 2014
Agree wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. It is shocking that the 2013 3rd grade test scores revealed only 10% of our students were on grade level. What happens next? Raises for everyone! Worst performing school in the area. Poverty is not an excuse for low test scores, bad teaching is.
I disagree learning starts at home. Many kids come home at the end of the day and play video games and have no parental support. Homework is ignored and parents could care less. If that's a child's environment how do you expect them to succeed at school or the world for that matter. I see kids on the street waiting for the bus no coat no book bag and think where was the parent when he/she left the house?? Some of the coldest mornings these kids had no coat or hat, how can they expect to perform when they are cold and more than lonely hungry.
Been there

Mineville, NY

#29 May 4, 2014
Education wrote:
The board needs to realize this is a school not a business where a certain few are getting rich with inflated salaries and benefits. Teaching standards have declined along with enrollment. Fewer are the tax base. It is now time to touch the forbidden chest, the big salaries. The towns future is attached to this school. We cannot keep cutting program and protect the employees. Put more emphasis on educating and less on building those bloodsucking salaries and pensions.
Sounds like MCS.....
Cut Jobs

Memphis, TN

#30 May 5, 2014
Lets invest in teachers who want to teach and make it fun to learn. Keep the kids enthuised about learning. Instead they invest in teacher aids/assistants who couldn't teach their own kids. Teachers should be working with the kids. Get rid of the aids/assistants - weren't they suppose to do away with jobs last year - but instead they hire more unitelligent half-wits to aid your students, when they certainly would rather be drinking, sleeping around and oh yea - talking about all your kids to their friends and making fun of them.
Exactly

Burlington, VT

#31 May 5, 2014
Some school districts require a two-year degree in paraeducation as a requirement for employment. Some hire retired teachers. Just a couple of starter ideas...

Question: Does the district need, or is it required by law, that every district have full-time nurses at each school? Do these nurses also teach health education as a part of their job?(Another starter question.)
outoftown

Ticonderoga, NY

#32 May 5, 2014
Exactly wrote:
Some school districts require a two-year degree in paraeducation as a requirement for employment. Some hire retired teachers. Just a couple of starter ideas...

Question: Does the district need, or is it required by law, that every district have full-time nurses at each school? Do these nurses also teach health education as a part of their job?(Another starter question.)
The number if teaches aides you need is based on how many kids are in need of special attention. More and more kids are testing on the spectrum of special needs. The rules are not made by your boe or your superintendent it's Nys. As for the nurse teaching I believe to teach a subject you need to be a certified teacher. I will find out if that is true.
cut jobs

Memphis, TN

#33 May 5, 2014
we have smaller classes - less kids and you are telling me the majority of them are special needs kids. Are you kidding me!!!!! Do you think if they are already "special needs" kids they should be hiring people who talk about them outside of school with their families and friends, making fun of them, making fun of their home lives, weight etc. What gives them the right. So these kids need help like that in the first few years of school???? Why aren't the teachers helping other teachers in all grades when they have free time?????
Unfortunately

Latham, NY

#34 May 5, 2014
This is true. The Special Education Department has always been the weakest link in a system that is mediocre at best. And, if you think that ANY child's information is confidential, you are wrong. I know.

The most disgusting part of that whole business is that some of these teachers/aides/adminstrators came from dysfunctional homes or live a dysfunctional lifestyle, by most people's standards. How sad is that?

Adultery or alcoholism or drugs or pedophilia anyone?
capt kay

Mineville, NY

#35 May 5, 2014
The comment about salaries in Scandinavia is untrue. Their teachers are among the highest paid professionals in their country and their school year is shorter than ours
Unfortunately

Latham, NY

#36 May 5, 2014
Not true about salaries. And, I have family members that live in two Scandinavian countries.

Salaries aside, most European school systems do a much, much better job with public education than the U.S. can even dream of at this point. European children get an opportunity at a real and meaningful education. Our children do not. It's that simple.
bye

West Hartford, CT

#37 May 5, 2014
The solution is simple if you're not happy move no one will even notice
broke

Ticonderoga, NY

#38 May 5, 2014
bye wrote:
The solution is simple if you're not happy move no one will even notice
We'll see what happens when enough people band together and don't pay their school tax for a year or two, or start staggering payment," civil disobedience" can be a powerful tool if wielded by committed people, when the people want change bad enough, we'll get it, rest assured.
Agree

Ticonderoga, NY

#39 May 6, 2014
New information in Press Republican today NYS teachers are the highest paid teachers in the nation....average salary is 75000.00!
mom

Ticonderoga, NY

#40 May 6, 2014
Agree wrote:
New information in Press Republican today NYS teachers are the highest paid teachers in the nation....average salary is 75000.00!
Which is the result of a extremely strong teachers union NOT the boe.

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