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Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#1 Apr 21, 2013
Id like to start a respectful and accurate discussion based on fact and not opinion.
I would like those interested to make points about Ticonderoga's economic indicators.
example: Number of retail and lodging businesses in Ti. Source of incomes of Ticonderoga residents. Visitors to the area. School and Municipality spending in comparable towns. Per capita income. etc
Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#2 Apr 21, 2013
Most personal income comes from retirement, Govt and School jobs from tax sources, the mill, the hospital, and commuting out of town.
Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#3 Apr 21, 2013
Very few jobs are from tourism dollars coming into our local economy.
Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#4 Apr 21, 2013
Do the majority of the residents, whom are the voters, want more visitors coming into Ticonderoga, while using the lakes and increasing traffic, when it gives them no additional income?)
Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#5 Apr 21, 2013
Will new taxpayers move to Ticonderoga as our aging population diminishes and tax burdens increase on the fewer residents that remain?
Economic Development

West Sand Lake, NY

#6 Apr 21, 2013
Most of the vocal voters are in the category of fixed incomes from pensions and tax sources, and will be gone in 20 years. Do they want to do what it takes to grow the local economy. Arent most peoples gripes of high taxes and not lack of jobs in the area?
Homeward bound

San Diego, CA

#7 Apr 21, 2013
The people who own property on Lake George make a lot of money renting out their properties. Most of them are not local. Local or not, do they pay taxes to the town/county for lodging income?

Any statistics?
Economic Development wrote:
Very few jobs are from tourism dollars coming into our local economy.
Walt Chapleau

Louisville, KY

#8 Apr 22, 2013
Since moving to and working in the south, I have witnessed many communities in Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana, etc. become revitalized by exploiting the resources they have in their local area. Many towns advertise and promote "mountain crafts," local lakes, rivers and mountains. West Va.,Ky., northeastern Tenn. and western Virginia are particularly hard hit due to the demise of the coal industry. Yet, many of the coal dependent communities are picking themselves up by promoting their resources. Ticonderoga has much more to offer than many places that my wife and I have visited. Ti has two beautiful lakes, mountains, vacant store frontage, and residents who are capable of crafts such as quilting, soap making, picture framing, blacksmithing etc. all of which bring money into rural southern communities. It takes leadership, determination, and forward, innovative thinking. I see the advertisements on T.V. about the "New New York." If the ads are true, their may be hope for our hometown.
Spike

Hudson, NY

#9 Apr 22, 2013
I don't believe there is anything 'new' about New York. Businesses are voting with their feet and it will get worse as the welfare state grows and the bulk of Obamacare kicks in during 2014. Large employers like Walmart have discovered they can cut back on staff and be even more profitable. If we allowed fracking and really slashed taxes this state and country would prosper. Won't happen so expect more malaise.
Economic Development

Schenectady, NY

#10 Apr 23, 2013
How are other towns in the Adirondacks all around us increasing overnight accomodations so tourists can spend the night?
wondering

Crown Point, NY

#11 Apr 23, 2013
Sadly, our local leaders are blinded by the IP light. It seems like thats the only indutry that matters to them. Why would anybody invest to start a tourist based business in a town that only caters to the paper company? I agree we have a very beautiful area here, but you need the backing of the town and county polititions to prosper. that does not and will not happen with the current leadership.
Economic Development

Chatham, NY

#12 Apr 24, 2013
wondering wrote:
Sadly, our local leaders are blinded by the IP light. It seems like thats the only indutry that matters to them. Why would anybody invest to start a tourist based business in a town that only caters to the paper company? I agree we have a very beautiful area here, but you need the backing of the town and county polititions to prosper. that does not and will not happen with the current leadership.
Does any of the leadership depend on the local economy to make a living? Most of the voters dont rely on the local economy.
Spike

Montpelier, VT

#14 Apr 26, 2013
Spike wrote:
I don't believe there is anything 'new' about New York. Businesses are voting with their feet and it will get worse as the welfare state grows and the bulk of Obamacare kicks in during 2014. Large employers like Walmart have discovered they can cut back on staff and be even more profitable. If we allowed fracking and really slashed taxes this state and country would prosper. Won't happen so expect more malaise.
"I hate healthcare and water tables. Boy howdy I love some nice red dick tho"

“I Chose The Wrong Username.”

Since: Apr 13

Port Henry, NY

#15 Apr 26, 2013
Hey there's another Spike around here, I see... this is going to get confusing
Economic Development

United States

#16 Apr 27, 2013
The glory days of Ti are gone. The senior citizens need to let go of the past. We need to completely revamp everything. Tear down the whole village and everything along the lachute and create a Riverwalk Community with Artodans, unique shops and restaurants. Have a Marina and Lodging on both ends of the Lachute in Lake George and Lake Champlain. Build golf resort communities near the marinas. Market ourselves to NYC and Montreal only a 4 hr drive or train ride away.
Walt Chapleau

Louisville, KY

#17 Apr 27, 2013
Economic Development wrote:
The glory days of Ti are gone. The senior citizens need to let go of the past. We need to completely revamp everything. Tear down the whole village and everything along the lachute and create a Riverwalk Community with Artodans, unique shops and restaurants. Have a Marina and Lodging on both ends of the Lachute in Lake George and Lake Champlain. Build golf resort communities near the marinas. Market ourselves to NYC and Montreal only a 4 hr drive or train ride away.
I completely agree with you except for tearing down the old buildings. They could be refurbished as has been done in Norfolk, Nashville, Louisville and many other cities across the south. The leaders in Ti need to develop and market the town's resources by offering tax incentives, etc. and advertising. Tourists must have a reason to spend time in Ti beyond day trips visiting the fort. If Ti offered things to do beside visiting historical sites, people would spend the night and spend money. With the major metro areas within a days drive, Ti could be an investor's dream if incentives were offered.
Economic Development

United States

#18 Apr 27, 2013
The focus has been on the main Street, but should be behind the main street along the river, on both sides. If the old buildings could be re designed to accompkish that then great, but we must turn our focus in Ti to the two lakes and the river.

“I Chose The Wrong Username.”

Since: Apr 13

Port Henry, NY

#19 Apr 27, 2013
In order for this to happen someone might have to fire bomb Wal-Mart.
I Like Spike

Mineville, NY

#20 Apr 27, 2013
I Like I Like Spike wrote:
Hey there's another Spike around here, I see... this is going to get confusing
I am not changing my user name to I Like I Like I Like spike. That's just silly.
Walt Chapleau

Louisville, KY

#21 Apr 27, 2013
Economic Development wrote:
The focus has been on the main Street, but should be behind the main street along the river, on both sides. If the old buildings could be re designed to accompkish that then great, but we must turn our focus in Ti to the two lakes and the river.
This is possible, they did it in Savannah, Ga.Also, the mountains should be focused upon. Can you imagine a hiking trail up through Cold Springs to Mt Defiance? In Gatlinburg, Tn. there is a road through the mountains, much like the old Bullrock Rd. It is one way and winds for about 5 - 7 miles, not much wider than a wood road, but is black topped. When my wife and I drove it, the cars were bumper to bumper. She is not from Ti, but thinks the Adirondacks are much prettier than the Smokies. In addition, Gatlinburg has a artisan loop, like the old Chilson Road and the Vineyard (sp.?) Rd. where artists took old houses and opened shops selling hand made crafts, etc. Ti has all these resources in a much more attractive setting with two lakes, which none of the places that we visit, have. Several years ago, I set up the Ti mayor (Andy) to talk to a mayor who developed his dying town in the manner that we're discussing. Nothing came of their contact. I hope the people of Ti will elect officials who realize the potential gold mine they are sitting on.

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