People being fired at Fort Ti
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San Diego, CA

#81 Aug 26, 2011
If Fort Ticonderoga would like to regain the dignity and respect that it once had, I think there need be no worry about certain people leaving and not returning.

I wonder if past administrators, organizers, etc. understand that the public certainly was aware of the alcohol abuse and other unsavory behavior that took place on the fort grounds during those events? They are only fooling themselves if they did.

And certainly, there were local business folks and residents who would have preferred that they keep that behavior on the grounds of the fort and not bring it into town, profit or no profit.

If the ship needs tightening, let it be! Although, I think Ms. Hill is actually attempting to clean up a very bad train wreck that she inherited, rather than a loose ship.
No Show wrote:
I think most of the recent comments are right on...both pros and cons of the new management. I am certain Beth has the the best intentions for the fort and want it to be sucessful. Her methods however have rubbed some the wrong way. The attempts to tighten the ship have perhaps left it up a creek with out a paddle. Some units refused to participate in this years event (not because of the new rule, but rather because of how they were relayed) This lead to one of the lowest attended events and now I have heard it said that there will be no 2012 F&I event.This is not progress! Some are happy with it, but what about the income of the fort...It's already hurting, what about the tourism and community business. I hope it all works out. The fort needs good turn out + good quality reenacting...Good Luck Beth. Hope ya know what your doing, cause I love it there and would hate to see it go down the crapper.
Local Guy

Schenectady, NY

#82 Aug 30, 2011
Give me a break! She's a bi&%h on wheels and everybody that works for her or worked for knows that. It's a pity the board doen't know. All she does is flirt with them. Stop being nice. Tell it like it is!
Fact and opinion

Cobleskill, NY

#83 Sep 2, 2011
Bitch number 1 at Wal Mart-gone. Bitch number 2 at Fort Ti needs to be gone as well
No Show

Binghamton, NY

#84 Sep 2, 2011
I don't think anyone has to attack anyone. Ultimitly, it will be the final outcome that will determine if the current strategies for the fort are beneficial or not. I personally hope it works out. I,as many others, do not care who the care taker of the fort is, just as long as it is under good leadership. Maybe we can just count this as a rocky start to something better.
btdt3

Schenectady, NY

#85 Oct 10, 2011
What's up at Fort Ti that my house guests visited and were not allowed to take a survey to fill out? They had a good visit but were told that the survey could only be done there and only by that woman - even though it has a return envelope attached to it!!!! Way to get the results you want, eh?
Season 2012 the Food

Englewood, CO

#86 Jun 13, 2012
I hope that the new director will be more careful about who is hired to work in the snack kitchen this year! Or maybe they could just close off that opening so that you can't see in there.

Last year, it looked like they hired some trash straight of a trailer park to cook and handle the food. And, some looked like they hadn't had a bath since last season. Ugh!
Amen

Middlebury, VT

#87 Jun 14, 2012
Yes, we noticed that, too. Our kids were allowed snacks that came in packaging only, which is generally not the kind of food we eat.

The food is very overpriced, but wasn't the issue. If we go back, we will bring our own snacks.
Season 2012 the Food wrote:
I hope that the new director will be more careful about who is hired to work in the snack kitchen this year! Or maybe they could just close off that opening so that you can't see in there.
Last year, it looked like they hired some trash straight of a trailer park to cook and handle the food. And, some looked like they hadn't had a bath since last season. Ugh!
Vineyard Sage

Mechanicville, NY

#88 Jun 14, 2012
Amen wrote:
Yes, we noticed that, too. Our kids were allowed snacks that came in packaging only, which is generally not the kind of food we eat.
The food is very overpriced, but wasn't the issue. If we go back, we will bring our own snacks.
<quoted text>
Please, please, please, do not judge a book by its cover or, in this instance, a person's ability to do a job by his or her appearance! By the way, the Log House has a continuing stellar record on cleanliness and adherance to Board of Health rules and regulations.
MLH1947

Somerville, MA

#89 Jun 14, 2012
I've seen a lolt of changes at Fort Ti over the past 65 years, and, by jilly, the place is still standing. Some of the walls are 258 years old, and are sure to be standing for at least another 258 years. Each Director has had their strengths and weaknesses, but I've never seen one who has not given the place everything they've got. Beth Hill is no exception. She's got illimitable energy and imagination and superlative programming and marketing skills. The staff is incredibly creative. The more support the Fort can get from the community, the stronger the local economy will become and the Log House will become a gourmet's paradise, though when Carl Lapointe was running the concession, the cheese burgers and milk shakes were pretty dog gone good!
Amen

Middlebury, VT

#90 Jun 18, 2012
This is not about judging someone's appearance! sigh...

It is about visually taking in the entire environment, trying the product and then making a judgment about if you will spend your money there again. It's what customers do. If you experience anything that you do not like, you probably are not going back.

And yes, the food is overpriced.
Vineyard Sage

Mechanicville, NY

#91 Jun 18, 2012
Amen wrote:
This is not about judging someone's appearance! sigh...
It is about visually taking in the entire environment, trying the product and then making a judgment about if you will spend your money there again. It's what customers do. If you experience anything that you do not like, you probably are not going back.
And yes, the food is overpriced.
Okay - I concede on all points!
Ethan

Hudson, NY

#92 Jun 19, 2012
MLH1947 wrote:
I've seen a lolt of changes at Fort Ti over the past 65 years, and, by jilly, the place is still standing. Some of the walls are 258 years old, and are sure to be standing for at least another 258 years. Each Director has had their strengths and weaknesses, but I've never seen one who has not given the place everything they've got. Beth Hill is no exception. She's got illimitable energy and imagination and superlative programming and marketing skills. The staff is incredibly creative. The more support the Fort can get from the community, the stronger the local economy will become and the Log House will become a gourmet's paradise, though when Carl Lapointe was running the concession, the cheese burgers and milk shakes were pretty dog gone good!
You sound like a bit of a fop. Perhaps you travel in the same elite circles as our director. I'll say one thing, it's more of a fort than in the last 240yrs. with limited access and restrictive participation. I know one guy who is a born historian and tour guide that considered his job there to be a dream come true and he quit the place in disgust.
Jo Blow

North Adams, MA

#93 Jun 19, 2012
If you haven't worked there you will not know the true meaning of Fort Ticonderoga and what it is all about. All of you sound like idiots anyway. The fort played a very important part in the history of the founding of this nation. Maybe you should read some history books and try to retain what you read. And also Miss Beth is a great lady, and if you don't believe me, JUST ask her!! She is the worse thing that has every happened to the fort, believe me, I know and so does everyone else that has worked under her.
She inherited a big mess

San Diego, CA

#94 Jun 19, 2012
A big, big mess that had been run by a person who is a "mess" for 20 years. It will take many years and dollars and a long, long time to repair the wounds inflicted on that place and people on both sides of the lake before the light of day will be seen.

I will never believe that she could be worse. Maybe not the right person, but NEVER worse.
Ethan

Hudson, NY

#95 Jun 19, 2012
That sounds like Obama's excuse! People tried to make the fort into a some kind of campus for wine and cheese snobs. There was NO need for a multi-million dollar underfunded addition(Mars pavilion)and now we have a national treasure that was intended as a place for ALL to enjoy but instead is operated like an exclusive country club! That's bull-bleep!!
No excuses

Middlebury, VT

#96 Jun 19, 2012
What you are describing is exactly a huge mess and no money. It doesn't matter whose excuse it sounds like to you. This happens in the real world all the time.

I think that the big--and obvious--question is: WHY was this allowed to go for 20 years?
If you give a monkey 20 years and a checkbook, it will manage to create a travesty. So, WHO wasn't paying attention?

The fort will never have that same sense of place again.
Ethan wrote:
That sounds like Obama's excuse! People tried to make the fort into a some kind of campus for wine and cheese snobs. There was NO need for a multi-million dollar underfunded addition(Mars pavilion)and now we have a national treasure that was intended as a place for ALL to enjoy but instead is operated like an exclusive country club! That's bull-bleep!!
confused

Ticonderoga, NY

#97 Jun 20, 2012
$17.00 just to drive on the fort grounds is excessive. A lot of people just want to shop in gift shop or do lunch. We have seen the fort many times, and object to paying a fee just to enter grounds; especially through the back entrance. Front entrance is locked.
WOW I didnt know

Middlebury, VT

#98 Jun 20, 2012
Is this true?
I haven't been there in a few years. I had no idea. I used to go there often and take my children to buy books etc. and have a snack.
I DEFINITELY won't be paying anything to just drive onto the grounds or shop. I'm sorry but that is just STUPID policy! Can these people do anything right?
confused wrote:
$17.00 just to drive on the fort grounds is excessive. A lot of people just want to shop in gift shop or do lunch. We have seen the fort many times, and object to paying a fee just to enter grounds; especially through the back entrance. Front entrance is locked.
Ethan

Hudson, NY

#99 Jun 20, 2012
The rich industrialists of the past; Carnegie,Ford and the Pells were grateful to the U.S. people and wanted to leave something behind for future generations. This group wants it all to themselves and their friends but you little people can visit briefly, for a price. Hope you don't damage your vehicle on that dusty, bumpy dirt service road you have to use. The hounds are released at dusk. Move along.
Very Bad Idea

Middlebury, VT

#100 Jun 20, 2012
I will NEVER pay $17 just to go into the gift/snack shop and spend more.

None of my family has been back since the time we were forced to drive down the horribly dusty road, park in the pasture, and wait and wait and wait for a bus in the heat.

My sister stepped in a hole that she couldn't possible have seen because the grass was so high and sprained her ankle. When we finally caught a bus and got to the log house, we couldn't get anybody to take a report of the injury or even get some ice. Needless to say, we didn't stay long, and I'm the only one who has returned.

But never in a million years for $17. Or $12. Or $5...
Ethan wrote:
The rich industrialists of the past; Carnegie,Ford and the Pells were grateful to the U.S. people and wanted to leave something behind for future generations. This group wants it all to themselves and their friends but you little people can visit briefly, for a price. Hope you don't damage your vehicle on that dusty, bumpy dirt service road you have to use. The hounds are released at dusk. Move along.

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