Fact

Ticonderoga, NY

#61 Sep 26, 2013
You do not have to be a first class town to create a town manager position.

See NYS Town Law, Article 3B:
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cg... @SLTWN0A3-B+&LIST=LAW+ &BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKE N=03940048+&TARGET=VIEW
Fact

Ticonderoga, NY

#62 Sep 26, 2013
Link may not work, so Google the law.
fact

Ticonderoga, NY

#64 Sep 28, 2013
58. Town manager. Any town may, by local law, establish the office of town manager, provide for his appointment and delegate to such office such powers and duties as may be prescribed, modified or revoked from time to time by the town board.

Source:
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cg... $$TWN58$$@TXTWN058+&LIST=L AW+&BROWSER=EXPLORER+& TOKEN=02163520+&TARGET=VIE W
another fact

Ticonderoga, NY

#65 Sep 29, 2013
for those who think that a person voted in as town supervisor can just do what they want....they are only a 1 in 5 vote. You don't get to just do things your way to implement changes. you have to convince others to vote as you do. It is a very political game, so when voting remember that just because one candidate promises changes you are in favor of it does not mean that it will actually happen. Just saying....a lot more is behind being in that office then many understand.
Observation

Ticonderoga, NY

#66 Oct 5, 2013
If you judge solely by the number of campaign signs on _private_ property! it looks like Mr. Grinnell will be Ti's next Benevolent Dictator and chief administrative officer.
Board member

Ticonderoga, NY

#67 Oct 7, 2013
Temper temper wrote:
Ever watch Whitford's reaction when faced with facts that differ from his delusions?
Two words: short fuse
two more words "No brain"
confused

Ticonderoga, NY

#68 Oct 9, 2013
So, Bill G. wants a town manager or town administrator.

After reading the Town Supervisor job description, should we then assume that he wants the job, but he doesn't want to do most of the responsibilities of the job?
Just a thought

Ticonderoga, NY

#69 Oct 9, 2013
Being supervisor doesn't mean it has to be a one man show. Ti hasneeded a manager for a VERY long time. Obviously Bill knows enough to do things the right way instead of pretending he knows and pretending to do it by himself. Playing that game is exactly why we are in the situation this town is in.
circular reasoning

Milton, MA

#70 Oct 10, 2013
Just a thought wrote:
Being supervisor doesn't mean it has to be a one man show. Ti hasneeded a manager for a VERY long time. Obviously Bill knows enough to do things the right way instead of pretending he knows and pretending to do it by himself. Playing that game is exactly why we are in the situation this town is in.
If Bill G. knows how to do things the right way, a professional administrator will be unnecessary.

The Supervisor already has a Clerk. Is that position ineffective and expendable?
Just curious

Schenectady, NY

#71 Oct 10, 2013
What are the reqs.(Not job description) for running for town supervisor?
reqs

West Springfield, MA

#72 Oct 10, 2013
Just curious wrote:
What are the reqs.(Not job description) for running for town supervisor?
Requirements are set by NYS Election Law.

No minimum experience requirements.
Still curious

Schenectady, NY

#73 Oct 10, 2013
@reqs Thank you!

If one meets the reqs., how would they run for the position?
reqs

New Britain, CT

#74 Oct 10, 2013
Still curious wrote:
@reqs Thank you!
If one meets the reqs., how would they run for the position?
See http://www.elections.ny.gov/RunningOffice.htm...
Votes

Ticonderoga, NY

#75 Oct 10, 2013
A DPW was shot down for many years because they did not want an appointed position to be a good ole boy decision. So where has that gotten us. First fine over $200,000. Second fine will probably come close. No, not what you read but what it actually costs for fines, attorneys, tanks, pavement, and anything else the DEC requires because of spill. Taxpayers paid for this. Not voters, tax payers. There is a difference. 3200 people in Ti out of 5000 pay taxes. What if the town manager is Bill's son. Do you really think the town will miraculously leap out of dept. Has he mentioned the vetting process for this position. Where does the money come from. Remember a salary of $65,000 plus benefits is around $100,000. We jump on this idea because we can envision in our head how this will save us. How has your voting worked on the highway garage. What if the whole town was run that way by a town manager. Just think about negative consequences as well as positive results before spending tax payer dollars. Good luck voting.

Since: Oct 13

Schenectady, NY

#76 Oct 10, 2013
Votes wrote:
A DPW was shot down for many years because they did not want an appointed position to be a good ole boy decision. So where has that gotten us. First fine over $200,000. Second fine will probably come close. No, not what you read but what it actually costs for fines, attorneys, tanks, pavement, and anything else the DEC requires because of spill. Taxpayers paid for this. Not voters, tax payers. There is a difference. 3200 people in Ti out of 5000 pay taxes. What if the town manager is Bill's son. Do you really think the town will miraculously leap out of dept. Has he mentioned the vetting process for this position. Where does the money come from. Remember a salary of $65,000 plus benefits is around $100,000. We jump on this idea because we can envision in our head how this will save us. How has your voting worked on the highway garage. What if the whole town was run that way by a town manager. Just think about negative consequences as well as positive results before spending tax payer dollars. Good luck voting.
Ticonderoga just needs someone that knows what they're doing and truly wants this town to prosper.
concerned voter

Wilbraham, MA

#77 Oct 10, 2013
How dumb (or lazy) to run for supervisor and then be ready to hire a town manager to do the work. This town is too small for the extra $100,000 cost of a town manager. I will vote for the present supervisor who seems competent and has a business degree. You can't expect her to turn this town around in a couple of years after years of mismanagement by previous male supervisors. The previous supervisors were arrogant, insulting and unapproachable. At least the women voters of this town should support a female candidate that has an open mind and will listen to the citizens of this town without insulting them. She also has good experience in working with county and state officials. We do not need another bullheaded male supervisor, especially one with no experience in government. I do believe though that we do need some new board members. The present ones are too entrenched.

By the way, a $100,000 town manager will eat up the property taxes of at least 100 elderly home owners that are struggling to pay their taxes.
Just a thought

Ticonderoga, NY

#78 Oct 10, 2013
So. Being a supervisor of a town has also now become a battle of the sexes. Great.
concerned voter

Wilbraham, MA

#79 Oct 10, 2013
Leaving sex out of it, she is still the better qualified candidate, and she will not need to squander $100,000 on a town manager. She can do the job herself. We cannot afford to have a new supervisor that will take 2 years of learning curve to figure out how to run the town, plus hiring a town manager to help.

Since: Oct 13

Schenectady, NY

#80 Oct 10, 2013
Right.

We need someone that knows how to keep our income above our spending, and not waste that money on a small analog clock. Someone that knows that how jobs are created, and understands the fundamentals of a town. Someone that can simply do the job right. Expect nothing less, for these are the people that represent you. Remember, you pay for the town to provide you with services. I've seen areas that need a lot of roadwork.

Are you satisfied with our hole-filled roads?
Voter

Ticonderoga, NY

#81 Oct 10, 2013
Obviously Deb is not doing it her self or have we forgotten who her personal aid is, and what his salary is. We need a fresh set of thoughts for this town. Bill Grinnell is actually looking at the issues that are plaguing our community, like the assessments that are way out of the ball park. And the a lot of other great ideas. He is more than willing to answer any questions about his ideas that he has. Just ask him instead of whining and complaining and assuming.

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