Crown Point man convicted on highest charges in death of toddler.

Greggary L. Varmette was found guilty Monday of murdering the 3-year-old child of his girlfriend. Full Story
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SuzieQ

Lake George, NY

#66 Sep 3, 2008
Was the boot mark from the car accident? The injury to the pancreas is what caused his death "more or less"? How long did they keep his body before giving it back to his "family"? Three days or a month? What is wrong with all you people that are screaming ,"He was railroaded", when none of you even know what the hell the truth really is? Just because you are friends or family doesnt mean you KNOW the truth. Maybe this is why the conviction- the bastard was GUILTY! But she shouldve been charged right along with him! And everyone else who knew what they were doing to that baby and sat around with their thumbs up their asses! All these big "I am his family and I am his friend" crap. Were all of you blind to this stuff going on and turned your heads? I find it very hard to believe NO ONE saw one single sign of abuse before his death- or did anyone even care?????????? Maybe someone off the street came in a did all this damage to his innocent baby body when no one was looking! Too late to be looking now, isnt it? Car accident my ass- he killed that baby and she let him and the rest of you stood around and let it happen! You now need to justify the ignorance you showed- its just a little late-God have Mercy on your Souls!
Nichole

Cobleskill, NY

#67 Sep 4, 2008
You say the family doesn't know the truth, but yet you do???? I have to say that I had something like this happen to a family member of mine because a judge was up for reelection in washington county, and the case was just pushed right through and he did five years in jail for nothing, honestly nobody knows the truth except God, so if you are going to be saying his family doesn't know the truth then I am sure you are far from knowing it all as well. Just my opinion!
SuzieQ wrote:
Was the boot mark from the car accident? The injury to the pancreas is what caused his death "more or less"? How long did they keep his body before giving it back to his "family"? Three days or a month? What is wrong with all you people that are screaming ,"He was railroaded", when none of you even know what the hell the truth really is? Just because you are friends or family doesnt mean you KNOW the truth. Maybe this is why the conviction- the bastard was GUILTY! But she shouldve been charged right along with him! And everyone else who knew what they were doing to that baby and sat around with their thumbs up their asses! All these big "I am his family and I am his friend" crap. Were all of you blind to this stuff going on and turned your heads? I find it very hard to believe NO ONE saw one single sign of abuse before his death- or did anyone even care?????????? Maybe someone off the street came in a did all this damage to his innocent baby body when no one was looking! Too late to be looking now, isnt it? Car accident my ass- he killed that baby and she let him and the rest of you stood around and let it happen! You now need to justify the ignorance you showed- its just a little late-God have Mercy on your Souls!
SuzieQ

Lake George, NY

#68 Sep 4, 2008
Never said I knew any truth, I pointed out so many inconsistencies with what the family "knew", it would make anybody with a brain wonder what the real story is. The only one who might know would be whoever hurt him like this. Why can we ask questions and give opinions on everyone else on here but not this incident? I see very few posts on this subject saying there is that possibility that he DID do what he was found quilty of doing in a court of law. Why do we have courts if we cant trust their truths. Its not easy to railroad anybody in this county-especially a high profile case like this. Does he want another "honest" trial? Can he find an attorney that will take a case like this? There are criteria to meet to get a re-trial-can he do this? If not, the verdict will remain. No matter what you or I think or feel- he was CHARGED, tried, convicted and IMPRISONED for this crime. He is GUILTY in the eyes of the law and man. If you have other proof-bring it on! A re-trial is the answer. If not, let him take his punishment like a man, which is more than that little guy will ever be. What is the deal here-if not guilty, judge was fine and understanding, if judged guilty there had to be something wrong with the whole process. I doubt we will change the constitution. THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY YOUR PEERS-what part of that was unfair? There are people in all families that can do things we just dont want to believe. I would do the same. There is a point where someone impartial takes over. This is just what happened here. There had to be people who would speak for the child. Because he is dead it doesnt matter now? Thats NOT how the system works. That is totally MY opinion! It isnt going to change.
Ben There

Lake George, NY

#69 Sep 4, 2008
ya right wrote:
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Hello again, it's been a while since I wrote. I am the brother in law and I completely agree with ReBex. I thought the justice system was going to come thru properly. Let me tell you that it was further from the truth. I forget who said that the evidence proved other wise statement earlier, but I can honestly say no it didn't. Remember that they threw one case out. Other peoples testimonies (that by the way showed that Greg was not the one who did this) was thrown out. Even the Doctors testimonies except the parts that said that they injuries were fairly recent. Nothing was said about a pancreas that had been damaged is what more or less killed the child. There was a Boot mark bruise on the child, in the abdomen which was newer than the pancreas injury. Oh, btw, the boot bruise was much smaller than the size 15's that Greg wears. Hopefully this puts some insight into what happened.
Lest we all forget that the Judge was coming up for reelection and therefore this case was looking good for him if he had a conviction (you know make people feel happier about the crime and justice system.) It was a poorly put together case. Considering the fact that the original defense person decided to switch sides in the middle of the case which is why Hogan was brought in. Hogans information was thrown out once. Therefore she needed new evidence. Well, the kid was given back to the family only about a month after autopsy. He was cremated so nobody could've done anything anymore. Oh, and Nina just happened to move back to Vermont. Greg was not read his rights both times the police arrested him, nor did he sign any papers to prove the police otherwise. The lawyer for greg never brought this stuff up.
Our justice system is wrong. A person once (lawyer) told me the motto is it is better to let a guilty person go free than to incarcerate an innocent person. Granted Negligence was on all sides, if you think about it, the entire world has done negligence. Like when a child is screaming in Walmart because the parent spanked the child. Or passing a broken down car on the Highway. Yes the signs where there, but people don't necessarily know what is going on actually and tend to stay away because too many times interfering has caused many more problems than helped. Think about all of this. I am out.

You were out of the country when this all happened and although I can respect your loyalty to the family I can not understand why you would bring all of this back on Topix.Do you really feel he was railroaded for political reasons as you suggest or should he be exonerated due to his miranda rights.First let me say I too think the mother should have been held accountable for the alleged negligence and abuse from prior incidents but that negligence wasn't just hers alone.Several family members knew about the accident,many more knew of the alleged abuse yet no one did a thing to help the boy.It was all hush hush and cover up just as the abuse was from one generation to another.People have to learn to stop the cycle not keep covering it up and then claim the legal system failed them.Do you honestly think Ron Briggs or Hogan purposely went on a manhunt for a high pro-file case and set up this whole mess just to win an election.It's to bad they had to get involved at all.
Lets talk

Englewood, CO

#70 Sep 4, 2008
If a family member, or a teacher, whoever believes that they know of a child abuse situation, what actually happens if they chose to call S.S. or C.P.S. or whoever.(And, who would it be?) Is it an anonymous call? Does the agency actually DO something?
Does anyone have any experience with this?
I have to admit, I believe that I would report a situation if I felt I knew what was really going on, but it all...feels a little creepy. Okay, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like to do the right thing but I don't trust government agencies. And, no one that I know of wants to 'borrow trouble' as Grandma used to say. There, I said it.
So, what does a person do?
Ben There wrote:
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You were out of the country when this all happened and although I can respect your loyalty to the family I can not understand why you would bring all of this back on Topix.Do you really feel he was railroaded for political reasons as you suggest or should he be exonerated due to his miranda rights.First let me say I too think the mother should have been held accountable for the alleged negligence and abuse from prior incidents but that negligence wasn't just hers alone.Several family members knew about the accident,many more knew of the alleged abuse yet no one did a thing to help the boy.It was all hush hush and cover up just as the abuse was from one generation to another.People have to learn to stop the cycle not keep covering it up and then claim the legal system failed them.Do you honestly think Ron Briggs or Hogan purposely went on a manhunt for a high pro-file case and set up this whole mess just to win an election.It's to bad they had to get involved at all.
Ben There

Lake George, NY

#71 Sep 5, 2008
Call the police,troopers or sheriff dept as soon as possible if you suspect abuse first.A call to CPS goes to Albany(hot line) and it can take awhile for them to get any action from the county.If the law involved do not report it to CPS do it yourself and yes it can be done anonymously but you may not get the action you had hoped.It does help to get your school officials involved.Don't expect immediate action from CPS for various reasons but don't give up.No one wants to borrow trouble but it's better than regretting doing nothing when it's too late after another tragedy.
pensive

Crown Point, NY

#72 Sep 5, 2008
Lets talk wrote:
If a family member, or a teacher, whoever believes that they know of a child abuse situation, what actually happens if they chose to call S.S. or C.P.S. or whoever.(And, who would it be?) Is it an anonymous call? Does the agency actually DO something?
Does anyone have any experience with this?
I have to admit, I believe that I would report a situation if I felt I knew what was really going on, but it all...feels a little creepy. Okay, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like to do the right thing but I don't trust government agencies. And, no one that I know of wants to 'borrow trouble' as Grandma used to say. There, I said it.
So, what does a person do?
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YES, you should report it. ABSOLUTELY. And a teacher has to, by law. Certain professions are mandated reporters. Unfortunately, you are not far off base when it comes to government agencies designed to "serve and protect." I'm not aware of any negative repercussions suffered by reporters at the hands of the agencies, per se, but I've seen enough victimization of children throughout the system to make me permanently sick. There are people who work for SS and CPS who DO give a damn and work diligently to do what's in a child's best interest. Unfortunately, and I don't know if it's something that filters down through poor management or just years of laissez faire attitudes, but the system is broken. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it comes to chidrens' safety, this should be unacceptable.

Regardless, if a child's safety is in question, why would you hesitate? I'm not sure if you can report anonymously (imagine all the additional false accusations mucking things up) but a reporter's identity is supposed to remain confidential (not included in the report). An investigation is supposed to take place immediately following a report, depending on the severity of it. It is then deemed either indicated or unfounded. Would you be uncomfortable with someone you know suspecting you could be the one who made the call? Would that discomfort be worse than what the child is suffering? If "borrowing trouble" stops an abusive situation, by all means start stirring.

I would recommend accessing information about the NYS child abuse hotline online. Try googling child protective services. You'll get an answer to your specific questions. If you're not a mandated reporter, only you can decide if it's worth it.
Very tricky

Englewood, CO

#73 Sep 5, 2008
What a dilema! I know someone who called CPS once. I'm pretty sure it was an anonymous call. I don't think they asked for a name, just took the info. They acted immediately. The parents, their teen-age daughter and "older" man friend all lied about what was going on. CPS went away. Then, the police some how got involved...drugs, I think. That's when my acquaintance (not a friend) became very sorry that they got involved at all. Nothing was ever done. This was in C.P. several years ago, maybe things are handled differently now.
As for me, I would insist on staying anonymous. Things are just too weird in today's world.
pensive wrote:
<quoted text>
YES, you should report it. ABSOLUTELY. And a teacher has to, by law. Certain professions are mandated reporters. Unfortunately, you are not far off base when it comes to government agencies designed to "serve and protect." I'm not aware of any negative repercussions suffered by reporters at the hands of the agencies, per se, but I've seen enough victimization of children throughout the system to make me permanently sick. There are people who work for SS and CPS who DO give a damn and work diligently to do what's in a child's best interest. Unfortunately, and I don't know if it's something that filters down through poor management or just years of laissez faire attitudes, but the system is broken. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it comes to chidrens' safety, this should be unacceptable.
Regardless, if a child's safety is in question, why would you hesitate? I'm not sure if you can report anonymously (imagine all the additional false accusations mucking things up) but a reporter's identity is supposed to remain confidential (not included in the report). An investigation is supposed to take place immediately following a report, depending on the severity of it. It is then deemed either indicated or unfounded. Would you be uncomfortable with someone you know suspecting you could be the one who made the call? Would that discomfort be worse than what the child is suffering? If "borrowing trouble" stops an abusive situation, by all means start stirring.
I would recommend accessing information about the NYS child abuse hotline online. Try googling child protective services. You'll get an answer to your specific questions. If you're not a mandated reporter, only you can decide if it's worth it.
hinds

Cobleskill, NY

#74 Oct 1, 2008
what ever wrote:
Well the biggest factor in the story is she never had him checked out for anything after the roll over in the car.. he was bruised from the strap in the car. It's call a burn mark from the seatbelt and it was seen by many people,, you should have seen the car,, it was at the varmettes house for over a year,, It was totaled and the day she got the car she and steven had a accident with it and never reported it. As for greg,, bless his soul I hope he gets out,,, he tried to say the baby,, I'm sure everyone didn't think he really did it,,Because you didn't hear the whole story did you?
I THINK NOT.... only the story the media and the cops want you to know..
^^^^whoever wrote this one is a pice of shit try and tell me i dont know what happend it was my house and i put that pice of shit in proson he deserves what he gets and if you think a fucking baby killer should be free well then you should be brought out in to the street and shot ur self o and stevens mother i hope you read these and also i hope you burn in hell
hinds

Cobleskill, NY

#75 Oct 1, 2008
SuzieQ wrote:
Was the boot mark from the car accident? The injury to the pancreas is what caused his death "more or less"? How long did they keep his body before giving it back to his "family"? Three days or a month? What is wrong with all you people that are screaming ,"He was railroaded", when none of you even know what the hell the truth really is? Just because you are friends or family doesnt mean you KNOW the truth. Maybe this is why the conviction- the bastard was GUILTY! But she shouldve been charged right along with him! And everyone else who knew what they were doing to that baby and sat around with their thumbs up their asses! All these big "I am his family and I am his friend" crap. Were all of you blind to this stuff going on and turned your heads? I find it very hard to believe NO ONE saw one single sign of abuse before his death- or did anyone even care?????????? Maybe someone off the street came in a did all this damage to his innocent baby body when no one was looking! Too late to be looking now, isnt it? Car accident my ass- he killed that baby and she let him and the rest of you stood around and let it happen! You now need to justify the ignorance you showed- its just a little late-God have Mercy on your Souls!
ok well not everyone sat around i dident i asked questions and got answers i was 16 at the time im shure none of you know that the baby had his nuts poped with a fucking pair of tongs (from the car accident to?)and what about the broken leggs ribs arms?? not from any car accident that baby was in i saw the baby and after the accident and also sat outside of my half of the house and played with steven and if had known that was going on i would have shot greg myself he deserves what he got i hope he rots in fucking hell
Somebody knew

Lake George, NY

#76 Oct 1, 2008
Someone, probably many someones, knew what was going on with this little boy! They all pretended it wasnt! When the newpaper gives you accounts of what was said on the stand, they often leave out some of the worst things they find. Dont want to UPSET the family. dont you know! They still want us to believe all this was done by a passerby that no one saw. WE all know who did it and so does the STATE OF New York. You cant kick yourself over this childs death- you only saw what they wanted you to see. But with all these other family members and friends babysitting Steven HOW could they NOT see! They didnt see because THEY would've had to say something about it (maybe) and they have NO guts- the courage of a lowlife louse. Now they can sit around and cry their tears for "innocent" Greg- WHO cries for STEVEN?
Older Than Dirt

Howes Cave, NY

#77 Oct 1, 2008
Very tricky wrote:
What a dilema! I know someone who called CPS once. I'm pretty sure it was an anonymous call. I don't think they asked for a name, just took the info. They acted immediately. The parents, their teen-age daughter and "older" man friend all lied about what was going on. CPS went away. Then, the police some how got involved...drugs, I think. That's when my acquaintance (not a friend) became very sorry that they got involved at all. Nothing was ever done. This was in C.P. several years ago, maybe things are handled differently now.
As for me, I would insist on staying anonymous. Things are just too weird in today's world.
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It doesn't matter if you give your name or not, CPS in this county is the BIGGEST JOKE I have ever heard of and has been for many years. Why would they call the person that has been reported to let them know they are coming to check on them and their kids. Doesn't that defeat the purpose. Also it takes an act of congress for them to remove a child.

I think the mother shouldn't have gotten off free. To get in a wreck and not seek medical attention for the child.

If the child was that sick why in the world would she have gone to work. Don't use the cop out that she needed the money. I am a mother and had to take many days off over the years to stay home to care for my child. Her step-father was more than capable of taking care my sick child, but I felt it was MY JOB.

It just sickens me to think about that poor little guy and the abuse he must've suffered. No child deserves it. God has another beautiful little angel.
angie wilkins

Mooers, NY

#78 Jan 20, 2010
Just kill him and get it over with. Why should this scumbag live? And why did this towm do nothing? Why didn't his mother or her family stop the abuse? You people are disgusting.
Hmmmmm

Bolton Landing, NY

#79 Jan 20, 2010
Then shut up and get out of our town! We don't need anymore scums like you!
Mother Fuzzy

Bolton Landing, NY

#80 Jan 22, 2010
The mother should have been held responsible. She probably put more bruises on the child than the accused did!
Nutty peanut butter

Port Henry, NY

#82 Dec 20, 2013
hinds wrote:
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ok well not everyone sat around i dident i asked questions and got answers i was 16 at the time im shure none of you know that the baby had his nuts poped with a fucking pair of tongs (from the car accident to?)and what about the broken leggs ribs arms?? not from any car accident that baby was in i saw the baby and after the accident and also sat outside of my half of the house and played with steven and if had known that was going on i would have shot greg myself he deserves what he got i hope he rots in fucking hell
Go smoke some more crack! you freak of nature.
Nutty peanut butter

Port Henry, NY

#83 Dec 20, 2013
angie wilkins wrote:
Just kill him and get it over with. Why should this scumbag live? And why did this towm do nothing? Why didn't his mother or her family stop the abuse? You people are disgusting.
His mother wasn't living here at the time!
Nutty peanut butter

Port Henry, NY

#84 Dec 20, 2013
hinds wrote:
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ok well not everyone sat around i dident i asked questions and got answers i was 16 at the time im shure none of you know that the baby had his nuts poped with a fucking pair of tongs (from the car accident to?)and what about the broken leggs ribs arms?? not from any car accident that baby was in i saw the baby and after the accident and also sat outside of my half of the house and played with steven and if had known that was going on i would have shot greg myself he deserves what he got i hope he rots in fucking hell
IF i remember right it was on his penis,,,maybe you should have payed more attention, there was no broken leg, no broke ribs,,, a hair line fracture on his arm,, u need to tell the truth my friend!!!! were you got all of this,, is not true! look it up! for the shoe mark,, they test his boots and one other pair of shoes, nothing match! the shoe mark was smaller! go ahead check it out!
moved away from bs

Mineville, NY

#85 Feb 18, 2014
Gregg took care of that boy she said he did it to keep herself. Out. Of trouble

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