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San Diego, CA

#41 Nov 27, 2012
How MANY signs do they need to put on Alexandria Avenue (or any other street) for people to get a clue? Obey the law the FIRST time.

People speed because they just do, they want to, they're not afraid to, they've not ever been stopped to "remind" them not to, etc. etc.

So, just HOW MANY signs should we pay for, and where should we put up all these signs? How many feet apart?
point to consider wrote:
The interesting point here is that Mrs. Cross has been in business for many, many years. It has always been a dangerous situation, but no one had been hurt, until her granddaughter, not a student getting dropped off or picked up, decided to cross the road unassisted. This could have happened whether dance class was going on or not and really isn't about it being a school.
Please note while the subject is open that there is only one 30 mph sign on Alexandria Ave from Hague road, just as you start up the hill. Not one more sign before the elementary school and they wonder why cars are always speeding through there!
Not the problem

Ticonderoga, NY

#42 Nov 28, 2012
First of all, everyone is bashin Marge and the thought of a school Zone, I think only one person thought about her granddaughter. Marge, I hope she is doing well and fully recovers. That being said, I don't feel that making that a "school Zone" is going to accomplish anything. This had absolutely nothing to do with her school or dance class or anyone speeding, it was the fact the the little girl did not look before crossing the street, plan and simple. It is my understanding that she did this quite often. So she needs to learn how to cross the street and having a "school zone" is not going to help her. Marge has been doing classes there for a long long time and never had an issue before and in my opinion it still is still not an issue.
Kids

New York, NY

#43 Nov 28, 2012
Not the problem wrote:
First of all, everyone is bashin Marge and the thought of a school Zone, I think only one person thought about her granddaughter. Marge, I hope she is doing well and fully recovers. That being said, I don't feel that making that a "school Zone" is going to accomplish anything. This had absolutely nothing to do with her school or dance class or anyone speeding, it was the fact the the little girl did not look before crossing the street, plan and simple. It is my understanding that she did this quite often. So she needs to learn how to cross the street and having a "school zone" is not going to help her. Marge has been doing classes there for a long long time and never had an issue before and in my opinion it still is still not an issue.
Kids go to school there - private school or not and there us no harm in making it 20 mph in lieu of 30. Kids are kids and there is always chance one will not look both ways. Lowering the speed limit will reduce the time needed for a car to stop moving should a child, being a child, not look both ways. If nothing else its physics - cars moving at a slower speed can stop shorter and force also lessened. Stip making this an issue about anyone child and think of all children. Ask any parent and they will tell you that chidren do not always do what they are supposed to - they are children.
DrNash

Endicott, NY

#44 Nov 29, 2012
Teach your children to not chase cars. I wear very thick glasses. If I damage the bumper of my Buick, I'm going to sue somebody. Keep the rugrats out of the road.
river girl

Troy, NY

#45 Nov 29, 2012
Interesting comments by many. What I see as the issue, is the allowing of parking on both sides of the road. I have no information as to how Marge's granddaughter was struck by a vehicle. I do not know if the little girl was at fault or if the car that struck her was speeding or if parking was on both sides of the street at the time of the accident. I have no idea as to what the cost of a sign, a sign post and the labor to install both would cost. If you have that information, please share so we are aware of the cost.

My heartfelt suggestion is simple. Put "NO PARKING THIS SIDE" signs on the Westerly side of the Portage. It has been done on another local street where parking on both sides were dangerous to emergency vehicles by decreasing the width of the usable road way. Those signs could start opposite Dr. Cook's office, north to the new EMS building.

These "NO PARKING THIS SIDE" signs will assist the EMS and Fire Department a much easier access to the upper Portage area. A few signs to help out our emergency responders while probably providing a safety net for all of the children Marge sees each week is certainly a worth while expense.
the REAL problem

Fort Bragg, NC

#46 Nov 29, 2012
Some kid ran out in front of a car, despite what we hope they have been taught. Period. It's not about a private daycare or private dance school, or whatever.

Again, it's about some kid did what kids all over, every day, since the beginning of cars do--didn't think, ran out in front of a car.

Are we going to put up a sign in front of every home business? Are we going to post a policeman at every home business? Or at every local business? Or at all the schools?

The point is this: the laws that are necessary are ALREADY in place.

Why do people always want to dump PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY on society or the government or someone else??(Hint: It won't relieve guilt, or other bad feelings.)
signs wrote:
Here is the problem. A child was hit by a car doing the speed limit. The young man that hit her was devastated! Not his fault, the child ran ut in the road. These things happen and we can sit back and throw blame back and forth all day, piss people off, create drama. If you want to sign the damn petition please do, if you don't then don't. But if a couple hundred bucks save a childs life just once; isn't it worth it? How would you feel if it were your child. Not involved with any of this. Just an observation. My kids went thre for dance class and it was an excellent opportunity for them and they loved it. I say put a couple signs up and move on.
the real issue

United States

#47 Nov 29, 2012
We seem to be missing the point. The real issue here was not speeding. Years ago my father while driving his car, was hit by a 10 year old boy on a moped. Unfortunately for all involved, the boy was killed. The police report and even the parents acknowledged that the boy did not look before he entered the road and struck my father's car. No charges were filed. However, it took years for my father to recover from this incident. He always felt that there should have been something that he could have done to have prevented this accident. It did not seem to matter that the boy had entered the highway illegally or that in his immaturity he had not paid attention to what was going around him. This boy had caused the accident. His parents should have paid attention to what he was doing. He should have not been allowed to ride unassisted. Everybody but the boy ended up suffering...his parents, his family, my father and my family. A slow down sign will not stop a child who is unsupervised from doing sudden or rash things. It is up to the parents to teach that child how to cross the street or how to deal with traffic. And if the parent fails to do this it is foolish to think that others should have to deal with their failures in parenting. I am talking about the boy's parents, but this should go for all parents. PAY ATTENTION to what your children are doing. Do not make others pay for your mistakes.
ABC

Hudson Falls, NY

#48 Nov 29, 2012
river girl wrote:
Interesting comments by many. What I see as the issue, is the allowing of parking on both sides of the road. I have no information as to how Marge's granddaughter was struck by a vehicle. I do not know if the little girl was at fault or if the car that struck her was speeding or if parking was on both sides of the street at the time of the accident. I have no idea as to what the cost of a sign, a sign post and the labor to install both would cost. If you have that information, please share so we are aware of the cost.
My heartfelt suggestion is simple. Put "NO PARKING THIS SIDE" signs on the Westerly side of the Portage. It has been done on another local street where parking on both sides were dangerous to emergency vehicles by decreasing the width of the usable road way. Those signs could start opposite Dr. Cook's office, north to the new EMS building.
These "NO PARKING THIS SIDE" signs will assist the EMS and Fire Department a much easier access to the upper Portage area. A few signs to help out our emergency responders while probably providing a safety net for all of the children Marge sees each week is certainly a worth while expense.
We could use a few no parking signs over by St. Mary's too. When cars park on both sides by the church it is nearly impossible to get through, and because they park so far down it is difficult to see at the corner of the street to make the turn. It truly is an accident waiting to happen. It's not the school or church's fault, it's like that everyday at pretty much every time of day.)
Teach your children well

Fort Bragg, NC

#49 Nov 30, 2012
There have been accidents there. As far as I know, none involving children being hit bar cars. Just cars hitting other cars.

I don't think any signs are needed there, either.
ABC wrote:
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We could use a few no parking signs over by St. Mary's too. When cars park on both sides by the church it is nearly impossible to get through, and because they park so far down it is difficult to see at the corner of the street to make the turn. It truly is an accident waiting to happen. It's not the school or church's fault, it's like that everyday at pretty much every time of day.)
Auntie Anne

Ticonderoga, NY

#50 Dec 2, 2012
Accidents happen...so lets prevent another...the area in front of Marge Cross's house should be a park on one side of the road area...it is very narrow there...I have lived in this town for most of my life and as far as I know Marge has had her school for a very long time...Dr Cook's parking should be an issue also...have you seen how people park around that corner right there...its very hard to see around the cars to get out onto The Portage...

The area from Battery Street to Treadway Street is very narrow and should have parking on one side...the area down by the Post Office of changed then why can't this area be changed for safety....
That is another issue

Fort Bragg, NC

#52 Dec 3, 2012
The dentist office has no parking lot and never has. The small area near Monroe's that is used by the employees isn't even owned by the dentist. In short, it is a very poor location to run a business. BUT, that was *not* the choice of the people of this town. So, why should the taxpayers pay for any signs or correcting any parking or traffic issues?

We can't go around town and change every traffic area where someone decides to set up shop. That idea is flawed. No sense whatsoever. That is what zoning laws are for.
Auntie Anne wrote:
Accidents happen...so lets prevent another...the area in front of Marge Cross's house should be a park on one side of the road area...it is very narrow there...I have lived in this town for most of my life and as far as I know Marge has had her school for a very long time...Dr Cook's parking should be an issue also...have you seen how people park around that corner right there...its very hard to see around the cars to get out onto The Portage...
The area from Battery Street to Treadway Street is very narrow and should have parking on one side...the area down by the Post Office of changed then why can't this area be changed for safety....
mr q

Brooklyn, NY

#53 Dec 3, 2012
Can we for once get out of our padding and helmet way of life and take some responsibilities? Teach our kids to not play in the road? Watch them? No, that would be to easy...Instead how about we put a warning label on everything and keep jerking off. If a kid gets hurt its 99.99999999999% the parrents fault, but no, we are too preoccupied with everything else. Take care of your kids, im not responible for them YOU are. On second thought we expect the goverment, uncle buck, old lady from down the street to take our responsibility for the kids. I almost nailed a little rugrat from a welfare clan when the parrents were not paying attention to him or the other 4 welfare checks and let them run wild. One came zinning out inbetween 2 cars and i ended up cliping a car getting back into my lane. The fucktards sat there like the welfare trash they are and tried putting the blame on me saying i was speeding, driving eraticly, and that i looked drunk and smelled like "vodka"(at 2 pm mind you). Long story short the troopers asked the parrents to do a better job keeping track of the kids and i got stuck with a $1000 deductible that i never saw again
The law is the law

South Burlington, VT

#55 Dec 3, 2012
I suppose we could change it: Bars can serve anyone any amount that they are willing to buy.

There are always civil lawsuits. My cousin's husband was overserved in two different bars. We will never know why--it wasn't anything that he did on a regular basis by any means. But, he did the day of the accident. And no one will ever know why because he "lives" in a persistent vegetative state. My cousin (by marriage) sued both bars and has million of dollars, after a long process of legal negotiation. But, her kids have no father, and she has no answers. Very sad indeed.

As for me, I believe that I would be very angry if some place overserved someone who then killed someone I loved. No one needs that one extra drink (or more), and no place needs that extra couple of bucks.

Maybe, when it comes to the drug called alcohol, we should all take some responsibility.
The law is the law

South Burlington, VT

#56 Dec 3, 2012
Sorry for posting on the wrong thread.
whatever

Wellesley, MA

#57 Jan 2, 2013
Marge has an amazing pre school and dance studio she is a very nice and thoughtful person its her dance classes that actually give the children in Ticonderoga lives something to do outside of boring old school
Tommie

Mineville, NY

#58 Jan 2, 2013
Marge has a home-based business in a residential neighborhood. Town zoning should be adjusted to prohibit this use -- end of problem. Skip the school zone signs -- it's not a school. It is a private business.
chechos9021

West Hartford, CT

#59 Jan 6, 2013
Tommie wrote:
Marge has a home-based business in a residential neighborhood. Town zoning should be adjusted to prohibit this use -- end of problem. Skip the school zone signs -- it's not a school. It is a private business.
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Wrong rainbow nursery is a school and so is command performance and if you two drum. To realise that means the nursery (school) and the dance lessons. So idk were the hell or from but there schools

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