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Fed up

Ticonderoga, NY

#1 Mar 2, 2013
I am so gratified to hear that their are some in government who do not buy the president's line of bull. Instead of increasing benefits they should be cut to encourage people to work. I see people all the time that are on public assistance driving cars, drinking, smoking, playing bingo, lottery tickets and list goes on and on. Where is it going to end?
Ohhplease

Arkansas City, KS

#2 Mar 2, 2013
Fed up wrote:
I am so gratified to hear that their are some in government who do not buy the president's line of bull. Instead of increasing benefits they should be cut to encourage people to work. I see people all the time that are on public assistance driving cars, drinking, smoking, playing bingo, lottery tickets and list goes on and on. Where is it going to end?
It won't end. Politicians are buying votes and the country is gradually transforming itself into a populace that wants eagerly to sell. The only skin in the game many Americans have is that entitlement check that hits their mailboxes and its a safe bet they'll exercise their vote to ensure its continued arrival. With their inclination to borrow and print money, government will retain their ability to purchase votes for the foreseeable future. Look for rioting and violence if someone tries to reduce or remove any of the welfare programs the government is purposely addicting them to.
Lazy

Ticonderoga, NY

#3 Mar 2, 2013
I know many that sat on their fannys while receiving unemployment bennies, with a few extensions. They said why work when I can stay home and get paid. Great incentive, stop paying some to be lazy. I do know some people work very hard to find a job, but many do not. Somehow we need a better system to find and fight the fraud that goes on. The worker bee cannot continue to support so many deadbeats. I think the hive has dry of honey!
Let them not work

San Diego, CA

#4 Mar 2, 2013
Why force them to work? Think about it:

1) It's a free country, still, so far.
2) If you force them to work, what QUALITY of work will you get from them? Really?
3) They probably won't have much of an education, poor reading skills, maybe even won't be very trainable.
4) They may very well be on drugs--yes, prescription drugs count BECAUSE we still, still have so many doctors who can either be conned or are just "free" with the prescription pad.

That is just for starters...
very funny

Hudson, NY

#5 Mar 2, 2013
You people are hilarious. When people have a job you are the first ones putting them down for where they work. However, You sit on a high horse and complain about it when some people don't have a job. Make up your minds. I work, and know of a few people who don't. They are trying, but can't find much. I agree with getting the lazy ones up off their butts. At least make up your mind before putting people down.
local

Port Henry, NY

#6 Mar 2, 2013
These great cuts are not just affecting the ones on public assistance.Some education and/or good listening capabilities would make one realize people are losing jobs due to the cuts.Just think about it people!!! Millions of dollars spent less on the Defense Dept trickles down to the employees and then the businesses they once supported.Then we have less tax revenue and much longer lines at the unemployment offices and public services departments.That is just one department of the many affected.
By the way the same chronic complainers on here will bash anything and everything as they have nothing to offer anyhow.
other issues

Burlington, VT

#7 Mar 2, 2013
If you cut them off, they will steal. Or maybe resort to illegal activities like drug dealing. And then maybe someone will get hurt in the process.
Just give them enough to live on. And also some incentives to not have children that they can't afford any way. And support adoption programs. Some states already do this.
Jackal

Mineville, NY

#8 Mar 3, 2013
unemployment insurance benefits and social services benefits are a social safety net designed to help people who have suffered some sort of setback in their lives. As an employed, tax-paying citizen I have no problems with either program. HOWEVER, with that said, what i do have an issue with is the perpetuation of the welfare mindset here in northern New York state. Unemployment and social services benefits are designed to be limited engagements, just long enough to get you back on your feet- not designed to be a damn career choice. There are so many damn loopholes and just plain cracks in the system, that if you know how to play the game, you'll never have to work again.
How right is that? I suppose it goes back to that ghetto saying of 'hate the game, not the player.' Isn't that the truth.
U wish

Crown Point, NY

#9 Mar 3, 2013
Great Point Jackal.
Fed up

Ticonderoga, NY

#10 Mar 3, 2013
Jackal I agree with you also but what most people fail to realize is that the social safety net as it's called is Industry on both sides of the coin. For those that receive it and to those that provide it and in my opinion it's way too generous. Everyone that reads this should call their town supervisor and demand that the policy for social services benefit administration be reviewed and revised.
DrNash

Endicott, NY

#11 Mar 3, 2013
Jackal, well said. Some on welfare do all they can to even avoid being on it because they weren't raised that way, to be takers. Circumstances can lead to even working people having to use food stamps and HEAP. Jobs don't pay a lot.
Career Welfare recipents start about 16 by becoming breeders. By 18 they have 3 kids with no father and she is starting to gain enough weight so walking will be difficult. Don't expect her to have any ambition to find a job.
Huh

Burlington, VT

#12 Mar 3, 2013
16? Try 13. Seriously!

And forget walking--toooo hard to STAND on the legs. Can't work. Fill out those disability papers!! Get that legal aid lawyer. Lifetime of handouts.
DrNash wrote:
Jackal, well said. Some on welfare do all they can to even avoid being on it because they weren't raised that way, to be takers. Circumstances can lead to even working people having to use food stamps and HEAP. Jobs don't pay a lot.
Career Welfare recipents start about 16 by becoming breeders. By 18 they have 3 kids with no father and she is starting to gain enough weight so walking will be difficult. Don't expect her to have any ambition to find a job.
Grumpy Old Men

Waterbury, CT

#13 Mar 4, 2013
The only skin in the Game in Ticonderoga is old and wrinkled living on Social Security. Most people in Ticonderoga earn their living from a tax source and not from free enterprise in the local economy. Many work at the mill where the local economy has no impact on their business. Most people in Ticonderoga sees no incentive to bring development to Ticonderoga. To them more people in the town are a nuiscance. But most people will keep complaining about their taxes being high, not realizing that new developments will lower them.
Broke

Ticonderoga, NY

#14 Mar 4, 2013
Grumpy Old Men wrote:
The only skin in the Game in Ticonderoga is old and wrinkled living on Social Security. Most people in Ticonderoga earn their living from a tax source and not from free enterprise in the local economy. Many work at the mill where the local economy has no impact on their business. Most people in Ticonderoga sees no incentive to bring development to Ticonderoga. To them more people in the town are a nuiscance. But most people will keep complaining about their taxes being high, not realizing that new developments will lower them.
We need jobs in this community. Everytime a proposal comes up to add tax revenue and jobs, groups of retirees or those that live off the system complain. Bringing in business and job growth should be on the top of list here Ticonderoga.
local

Port Henry, NY

#15 Mar 4, 2013
The people "living off the system" are not at town board meetings,they rarely vote on any issue and carry little to no weight on any issue.The powers to be in this area concerning development start with the APA which discourages any business from coming to Essex County.
Poor leadership

San Diego, CA

#16 Mar 4, 2013
It all comes down to poor leadership. I've lived enough places to see cities and small towns do whatever it takes to get the riff-raff OUT and work hard to get businesses, big and small, in--but not at any cost. You can't "pimp" your town out to a corporation; that's a very stupid thing to do and a very hard situation to get out of. E.g., Ticonderoga and I.P.

If you want the "waste of skin" out of Ti, start with the building inspector. That is, lean HARD on the slumlords, put them out of business, then the slum renters have to move somewhere else.(This, by the way, has been "talked about" in Ticonderoga by some people who would like to move the town forward to a better place.) In the meantime, vote OUT the legislators who are not doing enough to control the system--get the chronic takers off, enforce fraud laws that are already on the books, etc.
Absolutely

Crown Point, NY

#17 Mar 4, 2013
Right you are!! Rental units that should be condemned and very few jobs. Bad combination. Let's add generations on welfare that just give up and many have no work ethic to even keep their homes tidy when they do nothing all day. So Sad and and eyesore for the area.
local

Port Henry, NY

#18 Mar 4, 2013
I feel so sorry for the ones who want to blame the ones on public services for all of the problems.It will accomplish nothing to run them out of town.Development and jobs would ease the burden of taxpayers and decrease the need of Social Services,not the other way around.There is a need to vote out the legislators and representatives who believe that it is "right" for the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer.Something is drastically wrong when big business profits are in the billions while we are struggling to fill our tanks of their precious product.I work hard for my paycheck but I would rather help those in need than constantly pay out to make someone else richer.
Jackal

Mineville, NY

#19 Mar 4, 2013
Broke wrote:
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We need jobs in this community. Everytime a proposal comes up to add tax revenue and jobs, groups of retirees or those that live off the system complain. Bringing in business and job growth should be on the top of list here Ticonderoga.
i'd like to correct your statement a little... it's not that the area need more jobs, per se. This area needs good paying jobs, industry that pays more than minimum wage or just a little above. Unfortunately though machinations beyond anyone's control, the industrial jobs of yesterday will never come back.
DrNash

Endicott, NY

#20 Mar 5, 2013
Absolutely wrote:
Right you are!! Rental units that should be condemned and very few jobs. Bad combination. Let's add generations on welfare that just give up and many have no work ethic to even keep their homes tidy when they do nothing all day. So Sad and and eyesore for the area.
What do you mean tidy? Every spring we clean it. The tires may fit somebody's car some day and the broken kiddie pool just needs a repair kit with expoxy sealer. My grill is chained to the back steps so it won't get stolen again. You can't trust people in this trailer park. Just because they have a mullet and are a NASCAR fan means nothing. What is wife swapping anyway?

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