Stereo-TIped

Albany, NY

#1 Sep 10, 2013
I have seen so much work to beautify Ticonderoga by developing Montcalm St., a powerful movement that has one severely sore point fighting the optimism trying to bring the beauty back to our town. Fighting Topix naysayers is one thing, but there is a physical representation of our once depressed town (see how optimistic I am, I speak as though Ti's return is a done deal).

But what about the AGWAY building, an abomination ... this distraction is in such an obvious position that, I believe, it is the townspeople's responsibility to press Agway to 'clean up their act'! To bring the charm back to a buiding that is an integral part of our town.

Beyond that, why has this building been allowed to remain in it's distressed manner? Surely it cannot alone be an economic reason for it is rumored that the owner had received funds specified to renovate the building's appearance.

What do you think?
Happy Day 1

Ticonderoga, NY

#2 Sep 10, 2013
If the 'owner' did receive the funds to fix up the 'Agway' building, then that is what he should do. If he kept the money and didn't 'spend' it on fixing the building then he should be made to repay the money.

Not sure, as I have not heard of anyone receiving money to fix up their property.

Therefore, this is my opinion!! It would look nicer if he did fix it up!:)
Why that building

San Diego, CA

#3 Sep 10, 2013
Why are you picking on that building? When there are definitely others on Montcalm Street that are not only big eye-sores but also look like a very big fire waiting to happen? All the way up and down.

As for the Agway building, it looks like it may be another victim of Ticonderoga's apparent historic preservation policy: "Wait until it's irreparable, and then tear it down." Some buildings cannot be saved no matter how many "grants" you through at them. Or, that certainly will be the case if you "wait" long enough.

Planting a few flowers is not going to solve a much bigger problem that has a very long root--because neglect by our leaders et al have (and haven't had any) no sense and no vision.
Stereo-TIped wrote:
I have seen so much work to beautify Ticonderoga by developing Montcalm St., a powerful movement that has one severely sore point fighting the optimism trying to bring the beauty back to our town. Fighting Topix naysayers is one thing, but there is a physical representation of our once depressed town (see how optimistic I am, I speak as though Ti's return is a done deal).
But what about the AGWAY building, an abomination ... this distraction is in such an obvious position that, I believe, it is the townspeople's responsibility to press Agway to 'clean up their act'! To bring the charm back to a buiding that is an integral part of our town.
Beyond that, why has this building been allowed to remain in it's distressed manner? Surely it cannot alone be an economic reason for it is rumored that the owner had received funds specified to renovate the building's appearance.
What do you think?
free

Ticonderoga, NY

#4 Sep 10, 2013
Why that building wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you picking on that building? When there are definitely others on Montcalm Street that are not only big eye-sores but also look like a very big fire waiting to happen? All the way up and down.

As for the Agway building, it looks like it may be another victim of Ticonderoga's apparent historic preservation policy: "Wait until it's irreparable, and then tear it down." Some buildings cannot be saved no matter how many "grants" you through at them. Or, that certainly will be the case if you "wait" long enough.

Planting a few flowers is not going to solve a much bigger problem that has a very long root--because neglect by our leaders et al have (and haven't had any) no sense and no vision.
What other buildings in downtown Ticonderoga look that bad??? Several buildings have been given huge facelifts in the last few years, the building two brothers is in, the old video store where the church now is the building where amerigas is, the new bakery building and they are starting on the old cobblers bench building to. So what are you referring to????
TOP GUN

Morrisville, VT

#5 Sep 10, 2013
free wrote:
<quoted text>
What other buildings in downtown Ticonderoga look that bad??? Several buildings have been given huge facelifts in the last few years, the building two brothers is in, the old video store where the church now is the building where amerigas is, the new bakery building and they are starting on the old cobblers bench building to. So what are you referring to????
your mom's house
get real

Crown Point, NY

#6 Sep 10, 2013
Why that building wrote:
Why are you picking on that building? When there are definitely others on Montcalm Street that are not only big eye-sores but also look like a very big fire waiting to happen? All the way up and down.
As for the Agway building, it looks like it may be another victim of Ticonderoga's apparent historic preservation policy: "Wait until it's irreparable, and then tear it down." Some buildings cannot be saved no matter how many "grants" you through at them. Or, that certainly will be the case if you "wait" long enough.
Planting a few flowers is not going to solve a much bigger problem that has a very long root--because neglect by our leaders et al have (and haven't had any) no sense and no vision.
<quoted text>
Pick on that building? Not only is it a true eyesore as you drive into town..but a fire hazard, God forbid, with 2 gas stations adjacent to it, ALOT could happen. Sorry, but in my opinion, it looks as if it will collaspe at any moment. It is the worst looking building in town.
It is time

Burlington, VT

#7 Sep 10, 2013
To pick on the architecture of Crown Point. Or Port Henry. Or beautiful downtown Mineville. Or the women. Sometimes it's hard to tell one from the other.
Stereo-TIped

Albany, NY

#8 Sep 10, 2013
It is time wrote:
To pick on the architecture of Crown Point. Or Port Henry. Or beautiful downtown Mineville. Or the women. Sometimes it's hard to tell one from the other.
What the heck is your problem? Your negativity is like poison. Remember 'Love it or Leave it'? If you haven't got something constructive to say ... we don't want to hear it! This is exactly the loser-type of post ... Get a life ...

Yes, these other towns need some serious attention too; but it does not eliminate a tourist-hungry town ...

The fact that this decrepit building is sitting adjacent 2 gas stations ... can you say this tinderbox is a very serious 'recipe for danger'. Hadn't thought about that until it was pointed out from a considerate citizen.
Facts

Ticonderoga, NY

#9 Sep 10, 2013
As far as I know, the matching funds he was awarded went into stabilizing the structure. It is a shame that there was not enough to pull off the cosmetic repair needed.
Also, the gentleman that owns this business is a great guy and is willing to help out those who would otherwise go without. I had a window break in the middle of winter and he made sure I had a replacement within an hour even though I did not have the money at the time. He allowed me to pay him on payday so my family would stay warm.
Maybe it's time for the people he helped to get together and help him. Wouldn't it be great if our community could come together to help instead of just sitting home and bashing him on some website?
curious george

Ticonderoga, NY

#10 Sep 11, 2013
A scraping and coat of paint goes a long way. This is a very old building that should get a outside face lift
Why that building

San Diego, CA

#11 Sep 11, 2013
There are several buildings in Ti that have building code infractions. Just ask the building inspector. Buildings that people live in, some with children. Some rentals. Old houses converted into apartments with either illegal or seriously dangerous electrical systems, just as an example.

These places are fire hazards, too. I can think of a couple that are not far from the gas stations that you mention--big, old "tinderboxes."

Maybe if we get a new Supervisor, the code enforcement system will actually start working! And enforcement will depend on the law and actual enforcement are not who the landlord/owner happens to be. Before we lose lives. Or should I say more lives.

Also, the real problem with Montcalm Street is not how it looks but what lives there and what hangs out on the sidewalks--all the way around to Champlain Avenue. Day and night.
Right on

Canton, MA

#12 Sep 11, 2013
Why that building wrote:
There are several buildings in Ti that have building code infractions. Just ask the building inspector. Buildings that people live in, some with children. Some rentals. Old houses converted into apartments with either illegal or seriously dangerous electrical systems, just as an example.
These places are fire hazards, too. I can think of a couple that are not far from the gas stations that you mention--big, old "tinderboxes."
Maybe if we get a new Supervisor, the code enforcement system will actually start working! And enforcement will depend on the law and actual enforcement are not who the landlord/owner happens to be. Before we lose lives. Or should I say more lives.
Also, the real problem with Montcalm Street is not how it looks but what lives there and what hangs out on the sidewalks--all the way around to Champlain Avenue. Day and night.
Who is the fire inspector in Ticonderoga?

Who is the building inspector in Ticonderoga?
onlooker

Crown Point, NY

#13 Sep 13, 2013
the owner of agway is a very nice compassionate person.... the kind that would come out in the middle of the night to fix your heat and tell you to worry about paying later. remember the book saying... it isn't what the cover looks like it's whats inside!! it maybe an old looking building but a LOCAL business that cares about its community.
In the meantime

Burlington, VT

#14 Sep 13, 2013
There are plenty of local business owners that are such nasty people and some definite swindlers with such NICE looking buildings...
Mee

Mineville, NY

#15 Sep 14, 2013
He is a good man
what

Johnsonville, NY

#16 Sep 14, 2013
If it looks bad to you, go ask Doug if he got the paint, you would paint it for him.
See this

San Diego, CA

#17 Sep 16, 2013
See what can happen if a town building inspector, town board and supervisor work together? WOW...

As for Agway, you better understand that there a lot more buildings in Ti that have completely inadequate, outdated and very unsafe buildings that there are "ugly" buildings.(And some are owned by "prominent" citizens, however one defines that.)

If you are seriously worried about fire, worry about the house next door to you, especially it if is one of those big, old houses that is now rental units. Be very concerned! And, ask any honest electrician that works around Ti.

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