Mountain Lake Services - Policy chang...

Mountain Lake Services - Policy change w new directors?

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PleaseTellMe

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Jan 28, 2012
Hi; I worked at the ARC (now Mountain Lake services) for over fifteen years, but was fired during the union fiasco. Besides it being upsetting for obvious reasons to myself - one of the very disturbing things was that I was told I could not visit the residents and residents were told they were not allowed to contact me or speak my name. I was friends with many residents and have felt guilty for years for not visiting- they must have thought they were just objects in my job. I guess certain people didn't mind using the residents as a weapon against me - after all they are just MLS meal tickets - right?
Though this was a blatant disrespect and disregard for the residents who already can feel lonely and isolated; it is also a direct violation of the law with regards to the rights of the disabled. Why did I not report it? Because it most likely would be taken out (in subtle ways) on the resident that is stuck in the house with no one to talk to about it. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

My main question is; now that there is a different Executive director - do they now welcome people from the community (including former employees that were fired with no criminal charges)to visit with residents?

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Info

Schoharie, NY

#2 Jan 28, 2012
To the best of my knowledge, no prior employees are allowed onto any MLS property. It doesn't matter if you were fired, quit, or left due to an injury or ilness. I am able to email one resident and we keep in touch that way but when he requested a visit from me, he was denied. This happened just last week so I will take a guess their policies have not changed although there is always room for error.

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AverageJoe

Lund, Sweden

#3 Jan 28, 2012
Info wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, no prior employees are allowed onto any MLS property. It doesn't matter if you were fired, quit, or left due to an injury or ilness. I am able to email one resident and we keep in touch that way but when he requested a visit from me, he was denied. This happened just last week so I will take a guess their policies have not changed although there is always room for error.
Wow, that is outrageous. I worked there a long time ago for a when Chuck Hayes was in charge. I heard employees were being given a hard time for various reasons and thought they needed a union, but had no idea the disabled were being bullied. I can't imagine Chuck Hayes ever putting his ego or feelings ahead of a resident. It doesn't matter if they own the property - the residents pay good money for rent and other services and they don't own the residents. It is also a Human Rights issue. I never met Dipu Basu, so I am only asking (based on what some told of him), not accusing, with this question: Is it possible that some of these people that are denying the resident his/her right to have visitors are the same people that worked under Dipu Basu's beliefs, instead of following the Agency Mission Statement - Am I naive in thinking the new Executive Director and Board of Directors don't know this illegal/immoral practice is still going on? You sound like a very nice person and it was also nice of you to answer the other person's post. May I ask what excuse they gave the person for not being "allowed" your kind visit? Would you be able to tell us what "rank" the person denying the request had? Sincere thanks for letting the public know.

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Schoharie, NY

#4 Jan 28, 2012
Since I was released from employment (not fired, did not quit) for inability to perform my duties, I have been told I could not visit or even step foot on MLS property. Because I am no longer an employee, I am no longer welcome. The person making the decision was a regional director. I'm not alone. There is an ex-employee I know who has been denied visitation, with her brother, who happens to be a resident, because she no longer works for the agency.
Its not at all fair to those residents who develop a special connection with a specific care-giver. Its even worse if you are family and they deny visitation. Past employee or not shouldn't matter unless you were fired for a criminal offense. I understand keeping the residents safe and secure but what about happiness and emotional support? I have and will always advocate for those who can't. I miss the residents I worked with a great deal.
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#5 Jan 28, 2012
Info wrote:
who actually "owns" Mountain Lake services?
50BessboroLanePl easeHelp

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Jan 29, 2012
IDumb wrote:
<quoted text>who actually "owns" Mountain Lake services?
Does anyone know who owns the property at 50 Bessboro Lane in Westport? Whoever it is is renting out to two level 3 violent sex offenders (sodomizing/raping 3 year old, 10 year old and a 12 year old. I have seen them going over to a neighbors on 53 Bessboro. The people on 53 Bessboro are handicapped and can less defend themselves than us. I think Mountain Lakes or ARC owns the house on 53 - does anyone know who I should contact from Mountain Lakes to let them know there are violent predators next door? I am sure they would want to know. Poor things are probably frightened all the time. Please advise.

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#8 Jan 29, 2012
Dipu Basu is gone??

OK, then who replaced him as director?

Would the new person be the same as the one who is in charge of the Sheltered Workshop?
Info

Schoharie, NY

#9 Jan 29, 2012
Marty Nephew and the Board of Directors are in charge now. Although, and it hurts me greatly to say this, the same people who worked under Dipu are still there and interpreting the policies as they see fit. I do firmly believe that the Board of Directors have no direct knowledge about what is going on with their employees. Regional directors and human services seem to handle the employee end of things and only present problems to the Board of Directors when there is proof of their allegations. When they lie about employees or make their work shifts nightmares (they have their ways) so the employee is no longer, the Board is told a one-sided explanation for termination. The employee is not given a chance for redemption and therefore, the Board believes the lies they are told with the reasoning of "why would they lie?".

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Schoharie, NY

#10 Jan 29, 2012
50BessboroLanePleaseHelp wrote:
<quoted text>Does anyone know who owns the property at 50 Bessboro Lane in Westport? Whoever it is is renting out to two level 3 violent sex offenders (sodomizing/raping 3 year old, 10 year old and a 12 year old. I have seen them going over to a neighbors on 53 Bessboro. The people on 53 Bessboro are handicapped and can less defend themselves than us. I think Mountain Lakes or ARC owns the house on 53 - does anyone know who I should contact from Mountain Lakes to let them know there are violent predators next door? I am sure they would want to know. Poor things are probably frightened all the time. Please advise.
This is terrible thing that MLS is doing to make money. They receive county funding and it is time for us to say no to this. They are out to fill houses and bank accounts at the communities expense. Safety is out the window. Please start a petition in your community and we will follow suit in all of Essex County. Contact your supervisor and town board. All of the Essex county supervisors need to be aware and say no to violent sex offenders and juvinille offenders. This is the new plan
by the state and MLS.

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Think not

Schoharie, NY

#11 Jan 29, 2012
Is this a MLS house where they are living? Please keep watch and stay informed.
Think not

Schoharie, NY

#12 Jan 29, 2012
Keep the conversation going here. People are scared and we have strength in numbers. I also hear the attorney generals office is reading this....so talk and be free. If MLS would like to comment or threat they would like to read this also.

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Not so fast

Schoharie, NY

#13 Jan 29, 2012
They have signed a contract with the state to bring criminals with low IQ's and pass them off as disabled to keep the money rolling in. They will lie to your face and have minimum supervision. Stand up and say no. Another cost saving measure by the state and money in Nephews pocket. I hope the staff is ready for what is coming.
Info

Schoharie, NY

#14 Jan 30, 2012
This was pulled from the New York State Office for People With Developmental Disabilities website, opwdd.ny.gov . I did not find a great deal of information but I will be calling this Information Line to ask some serious questions. First and foremost, I want to know what they define as abuse. I will keep all that are interested informed so that this situation can be resolved once and for all. Lets think about those who cannot help themselves and offer a hand after it has been rejected by management in the past.

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IDoNotGetIt

Höst, Germany

#15 Jan 30, 2012
Not so fast wrote:
They have signed a contract with the state to bring criminals with low IQ's and pass them off as disabled to keep the money rolling in. They will lie to your face and have minimum supervision. Stand up and say no. Another cost saving measure by the state and money in Nephews pocket. I hope the staff is ready for what is coming.
I believe you, but I don't get it. There are plenty of kind hearted people who happen to be disabled that need homes and help. Why are they choosing to put people in that endanger the emotional and physical well being of residents who are there for the sole reason of being handicapped.
Are they getting paid more to put these criminals in?

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SomeoneIsThere

Lund, Sweden

#18 Feb 2, 2012
Info wrote:
This was pulled from the New York State Office for People With Developmental Disabilities website, opwdd.ny.gov . I did not find a great deal of information but I will be calling this Information Line to ask some serious questions. First and foremost, I want to know what they define as abuse. I will keep all that are interested informed so that this situation can be resolved once and for all. Lets think about those who cannot help themselves and offer a hand after it has been rejected by management in the past.
Thank you for trying to help us. Did you get a chance to speak to anyone from opwdd???? Did they say anything about about why we (disabled) are being forced to live with violent people? I appreciate that you care - I wish some other people did also. You are doing some of the work for us that MLS should be doing except you are not getting paid. Thank you again.

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IDoNotGetIt

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#19 Feb 2, 2012
Info wrote:
Since I was released from employment (not fired, did not quit) for inability to perform my duties, I have been told I could not visit or even step foot on MLS property. Because I am no longer an employee, I am no longer welcome. The person making the decision was a regional director. I'm not alone. There is an ex-employee I know who has been denied visitation, with her brother, who happens to be a resident, because she no longer works for the agency.
Its not at all fair to those residents who develop a special connection with a specific care-giver. Its even worse if you are family and they deny visitation. Past employee or not shouldn't matter unless you were fired for a criminal offense. I understand keeping the residents safe and secure but what about happiness and emotional support? I have and will always advocate for those who can't. I miss the residents I worked with a great deal.
Did you say "denied visitation" ??! Please tell me you are exaggerating to make a point. People are actually denied visiting with disabled residents? Even prisoners get visitation rights! Am I missing something here? Isn't Mountain Lakes services supposed to be working to HELP the disabled? Please tell me I misunderstood.

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Schoharie, NY

#20 Feb 2, 2012
IDoNotGetIt wrote:
<quoted text>Did you say "denied visitation" ??! Please tell me you are exaggerating to make a point. People are actually denied visiting with disabled residents? Even prisoners get visitation rights! Am I missing something here? Isn't Mountain Lakes services supposed to be working to HELP the disabled? Please tell me I misunderstood.
I did not exaggerate to prove a point and you did not misunderstand what I wrote. To the best of my knowledge, the only people denied visitation are ex-employees and select family members with questionable backgrounds.
IDoNotGetIt

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Feb 3, 2012
Info wrote:
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I did not exaggerate to prove a point and you did not misunderstand what I wrote. To the best of my knowledge, the only people denied visitation are ex-employees and select family members with questionable backgrounds.
Pardon me for asking for clarification; but it is hard to believe much of what I am reading...
Are you claiming that residents are denied visitation from ex-employees that worked there for years and befriended residents, plus denying visitation from "select" (who selects?) family members - yet they think it is okay for someone who has sodomized and had sexual intercourse with a seven and eight year old can not only have visitation rights, but can live and work with residents? Someone please explain to me how this is not outrageous. Am I from another planet?

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Facts only please

Schoharie, NY

#22 Feb 4, 2012
Yesterdays Post Star had a great article about Aim Services. They are a non profit much like ARC. They saw a decline in numbers of their client base. They decided to take part in a new program to assist the elderly. It is called the Nursing Home transition program. It helps seniors stay in their homes rather than go into a nursing home. They provide home services. They did not sell out and open a prison. Essex county nursing home is failing. A program like this would have been a great idea. Check out Aim in Queensbury and see how a company should be run.

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Warrensburg, NY

#23 Feb 4, 2012
Facts only please wrote:
Yesterdays Post Star had a great article about Aim Services. They are a non profit much like ARC. They saw a decline in numbers of their client base. They decided to take part in a new program to assist the elderly. It is called the Nursing Home transition program. It helps seniors stay in their homes rather than go into a nursing home. They provide home services. They did not sell out and open a prison. Essex county nursing home is failing. A program like this would have been a great idea. Check out Aim in Queensbury and see how a company should be run.
So why don't you go down there and get a job?

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