Los Angeles County to close all courtrooms in 10 community courthouses

Faced with a looming deficit of $55 million to $85 million, Los Angeles County court system officials announced Wednesday that all courtrooms in 10 community courthouses will be closed, including two branches in San Pedro and another on Catalina Island. Full Story
happy republican

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Nov 15, 2012
More revenge of the republicans-again.

Here's how this is gonna work. Most property owners are republicans. Since small claims and tenant disputes are going to be put on the back burner, rest assured landlords are going to be extreeeemly picky regarding who they allow to rent their properties. If you don't have an amazing resume as a renter, you better get used to the fine weather of Victorville.

Who usually has a pizz poor renters and/or credit application? Blacks. Normally, we consider overlooking smaller offenses in many cases. Sometimes we even take on section 8'ers.

Not now.

Enjoy Victorville.
SP Landlord

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Nov 15, 2012
This is a disgrace and disater for Los Angeles. Courthouses represent much more to a commnity than the processing of civil and criminal matters. There mere presence is a cornerstone of our civilization. My heart goe out to the emoloyees. This aso relates to class discrimination in that most of these closures will disproportionately effect the poor and the working poor who have a difficukt time as it is with the logistics of the legal system.
SP Landlord

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Nov 15, 2012
happy republican wrote:
More revenge of the republicans-again.
Here's how this is gonna work. Most property owners are republicans. Since small claims and tenant disputes are going to be put on the back burner, rest assured landlords are going to be extreeeemly picky regarding who they allow to rent their properties. If you don't have an amazing resume as a renter, you better get used to the fine weather of Victorville.
Who usually has a pizz poor renters and/or credit application? Blacks. Normally, we consider overlooking smaller offenses in many cases. Sometimes we even take on section 8'ers.
Not now.
Enjoy Victorville.
Chicken coming home to roost on greedy landlords. Take one year or more to evict a non paying tenant, even longer for a problem tenant under LAC rent control provisions. This is a two edge sword, with greedy Landlords and bad Tenants ultomately getting what they deserve. Landlords will loose much more in this equation and stillhave to rent to marginal tennants. Victorville is also a deserving place for true deadbdats.
reality

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Nov 16, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
This is a disgrace and disater for Los Angeles. Courthouses represent much more to a commnity than the processing of civil and criminal matters. There mere presence is a cornerstone of our civilization. My heart goe out to the emoloyees. This aso relates to class discrimination in that most of these closures will disproportionately effect the poor and the working poor who have a difficukt time as it is with the logistics of the legal system.
Class discrimination?? You've obviously never tried to evict a deadbeat maniac tenant who knows the court system. Even though you're an ignorant moron, I hope you never do. You don't have the first clue of how much money is wasted, courts backed up, by lifelong government-enabled grifters who think of the free court system (for them) as a way of life.
SP Landlord

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Nov 16, 2012
reality wrote:
<quoted text>
Class discrimination?? You've obviously never tried to evict a deadbeat maniac tenant who knows the court system. Even though you're an ignorant moron, I hope you never do. You don't have the first clue of how much money is wasted, courts backed up, by lifelong government-enabled grifters who think of the free court system (for them) as a way of life.
I know more about this than you know sbout your mother. Way back when I was a LAC Dep Marshall, then a cop for a large agency and have been involved in RE and a longtime Landlord of two small buildings in SP for years.

Landlords always have the upper hand, and occasional evictions are a business expense and should have been calculated in your business model. Landlords in So-Cal have been doing very well in the larger perspective.

Rent Control in LA County did not occur in a vacuum, but was the result of unbridled landlord greed and arbitrary notices to vacate, unrelated to conduct or paying of rent. Santa Monica was the first, enacting their ordinance back in the 70's, followed by City of LA, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Pasadena.

FYI - Class discrimination was in my first post, relating to local court houses in low income areas (like SP) which many lacking even basic transportation rely on. I'm an older White Male, usually conservative, who has the larger perspective, which you lack. I do not like Deadbeats nor arrogant Landlords.
reality

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Nov 16, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
<quoted text>
I know more about this than you know sbout your mother. Way back when I was a LAC Dep Marshall, then a cop for a large agency and have been involved in RE and a longtime Landlord of two small buildings in SP for years.
Landlords always have the upper hand, and occasional evictions are a business expense and should have been calculated in your business model. Landlords in So-Cal have been doing very well in the larger perspective.
Rent Control in LA County did not occur in a vacuum, but was the result of unbridled landlord greed and arbitrary notices to vacate, unrelated to conduct or paying of rent. Santa Monica was the first, enacting their ordinance back in the 70's, followed by City of LA, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Pasadena.
FYI - Class discrimination was in my first post, relating to local court houses in low income areas (like SP) which many lacking even basic transportation rely on. I'm an older White Male, usually conservative, who has the larger perspective, which you lack. I do not like Deadbeats nor arrogant Landlords.
I've dealt with tenant/landlorrd issues while you were copping feels from your drunk sister. The fact is, the court system is heavily skewed towards the tenants. I can tell you how to extend a tenancy for a year without paying rent, simply by using the laws at hand to confuse some semi-senile local judge who is more worried about changing his diapers than conforming to state law.
What it comes down to is someone who can actually lose their property due to lack of rental payments, and some grifter who lives to work the court system.
I had won maniac who actually got herself a wheelchair, and would have a friend wheel her into court to whimper to the judge, then wheel herself next door to take restraining orders out on all the tenants of the building, some of whom she didn't even know. The lady actually worked in a government job. She knew just what to do.
I've got plenty of amazing stories of people who work the system to try to destroy a landlord.
And again, the stakes are: losing everything you've worked for, for years vs. some fool on government aid who could move to another apartment a few blocks away and doesn't want to.
So my response to your crying about career "poor people" who are getting taken advantage of by "greedy landlords" at this point is, it's about time!
Hopefully that means a landlord can perform a lockout, and the courts will be too overloaded to do anything about it. Like back in the good old days, when people didn't pay their rent for months.
btw, your "concern" about renters in Santa Monica, a PRIME oceanside district, is hilarious. "Oh my god! The landlord raised my rent again. I can't afford it. I might have to move to... the valley! God, help meeeee!"
Take your old timey "grapes of wrath" rhetoric and shove it up your hind end with no grease. You're not defending ignorant Oakies. You're defending people who just don't want to move away from the beach. You've lost your mind, which is very easy to do when it's not YOUR money, or YOUR property in Santa Monica.
Again, your charge that landlords who can't collect rents from committed deadbeat just suffer a momentary loss of income while renters lives are sacred is a load. Renters who don't pay simply have to move. Landlords who don't collect rent stand to lose everything they've worked for for decades.
If you want to lambast the allowance of real estate investment trusts, and the corporatization of rental properties, I might agree with you there. Faceless entities tending to massive property responsibilities tends to make for Kafkaesque results, but the average landlord in a middle-class area isn't some Dickensian archetype waiting in the bushes for some poor innocent renter. Usually it's the renter who is the evil antagonist in the sad stories that can develop.
reality

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Nov 16, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
<quoted text>
I know more about this than you know sbout your mother. Way back when I was a LAC Dep Marshall, then a cop for a large agency and have been involved in RE and a longtime Landlord of two small buildings in SP for years.
Landlords always have the upper hand, and occasional evictions are a business expense and should have been calculated in your business model. Landlords in So-Cal have been doing very well in the larger perspective.
Rent Control in LA County did not occur in a vacuum, but was the result of unbridled landlord greed and arbitrary notices to vacate, unrelated to conduct or paying of rent. Santa Monica was the first, enacting their ordinance back in the 70's, followed by City of LA, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Pasadena.
FYI - Class discrimination was in my first post, relating to local court houses in low income areas (like SP) which many lacking even basic transportation rely on. I'm an older White Male, usually conservative, who has the larger perspective, which you lack. I do not like Deadbeats nor arrogant Landlords.
I've dealt with tenant/landlorrd issues while you were copping feels from your drunk sister. The fact is, the court system is heavily skewed towards the tenants. I can tell you how to extend a tenancy for a year without paying rent, simply by using the laws at hand to confuse some semi-senile local judge who is more worried about changing his diapers than conforming to state law.
What it comes down to is someone who can actually lose their property due to lack of rental payments, and some grifter who lives to work the court system.
I had won maniac who actually got herself a wheelchair, and would have a friend wheel her into court to whimper to the judge, then wheel herself next door to take restraining orders out on all the tenants of the building, some of whom she didn't even know. The lady actually worked in a government job. She knew just what to do.
I've got plenty of amazing stories of people who work the system to try to destroy a landlord.
And again, the stakes are: losing everything you've worked for, for years vs. some fool on government aid who could move to another apartment a few blocks away and doesn't want to.
So my response to your crying about career "poor people" who are getting taken advantage of by "greedy landlords" at this point is, it's about time!
Hopefully that means a landlord can perform a lockout, and the courts will be too overloaded to do anything about it. Like back in the good old days, when people didn't pay their rent for months.
btw, your "concern" about renters in Santa Monica, a PRIME oceanside district, is hilarious. "Oh my god! The landlord raised my rent again. I can't afford it. I might have to move to... the valley! God, help meeeee!"
Take your old timey "grapes of wrath" rhetoric and shove it up your hind end with no grease. You're not defending ignorant Oakies. You're defending people who just don't want to move away from the beach. You've lost your mind, which is very easy to do when it's not YOUR money, or YOUR property in Santa Monica.
Again, your charge that landlords who can't collect rents from committed deadbeat just suffer a momentary loss of income while renters lives are sacred is a load. Renters who don't pay simply have to move. Landlords who don't collect rent stand to lose everything they've worked for for decades.
The average landlord in a middle-class area isn't some silent movie archetype waiting in the bushes for some poor innocent renter. Usually it's the renter who is the evil antagonist in the sad stories that can develop.
It's not the 1930's anymore, and this ain't Steinbeck. You're not a hero by telling landlords in Santa Monica what to do with their properties, while avoiding telling renters what they might do with their lives so they can afford to rent said properties.
SP Landlord

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Nov 16, 2012
Mr Reality

FYI - You apparently are not up to date. Evictions in LA County take about 90 days and are slam dunk for non payment of rent and also for no reason at all in non RC jurisdictions. Arbitrary evictions, no reason stated, only a 30 day notice necessary.

Rent Control did not occur in a vacuum and ordinances have been passed in wealthy Cities, working class cities and the gritty metropolis of the City of LA.

Most landlords in So-cal have done very well, that is if they did not play monopoly like many did, leveraging their properties during the Casino atmosphere which crashed in 2007. Why not, just rent gouge every few years. Poor saps can't a costly move. Most Landlords veiw tennants as non human, I have heard it time again in the coffee shops where they congregate.

You related folklore or anecdotal rare instances (lady in wheel chair). Even a deadbeat tennant who takes the drastic measure of filing Bankruptcy will only get a short six months reprieve. The BK stall evicgtions are fractional. People in wheelchairs get evicted all of the time, as evidenced in the weekly news.

You are dealing with the SP Landlord, well known on Topix relating to matters of his expertise. I mentioned that way back when I was a LA County Dep Marshall, a specialized law enforcement agency dealing with civil process and evictions, working directly out of the muni court. Learned a lot about the landlord mentality and deadbeat tennants. Later on a cop in a large agency. Later in RE and a landlord of two small buildings in SP.

Also, an avid observer of humanity and social trends.

Rent Control did not occur in a vacuum, so reflect on why it did.
SP Landlord

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Nov 16, 2012
So go ahead and do a "lock out" if you have the balls. The landlord then might be heading for Bankruptcy protection after suffering a large punitive judgement...lol
NorCAl

Lincoln, CA

#10 Mar 16, 2013
SP Landlord wrote:
<quoted text>
I know more about this than you know sbout your mother. Way back when I was a LAC Dep Marshall, then a cop for a large agency and have been involved in RE and a longtime Landlord of two small buildings in SP for years.
Landlords always have the upper hand, and occasional evictions are a business expense and should have been calculated in your business model. Landlords in So-Cal have been doing very well in the larger perspective.
Rent Control in LA County did not occur in a vacuum, but was the result of unbridled landlord greed and arbitrary notices to vacate, unrelated to conduct or paying of rent. Santa Monica was the first, enacting their ordinance back in the 70's, followed by City of LA, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Pasadena.
FYI - Class discrimination was in my first post, relating to local court houses in low income areas (like SP) which many lacking even basic transportation rely on. I'm an older White Male, usually conservative, who has the larger perspective, which you lack. I do not like Deadbeats nor arrogant Landlords.
Hi, Just wanted to tell you that the posters on the current topic are really bothering me, because they are illogical, abrasive, and insulting, especially the "flower".
They remind me of a few people I used to work with and avoided.
*I couldn't post this in the forum, as it would start a firestorm. Godspeed GD > LG
Joe Nelson

AOL

#11 Mar 17, 2013
This is just the beginning. With over 18,000 individual multi million dollar publ empl pensions and more every day, we will have to dramatically reduce our expectations. Electing politicians who traded the highest pensions in America for campaign support had to end badly.
Any child would have made smarter political choices that the residents of L.A. County in the 21st Century.
Bill Boson

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Mar 17, 2013
There is no reason at all for city jobs to be unionized. There should be citizen panels to arbitrate over perceived unfair firings, but the greedy goons have no reason to exist. The city and state have not benefitted by having unions around, and they are nothing but vicious leeches living off the taxpayer simply because they can.
Joe Nelson

AOL

#13 Mar 18, 2013
Bill Boson wrote:
There is no reason at all for city jobs to be unionized. There should be citizen panels to arbitrate over perceived unfair firings, but the greedy goons have no reason to exist. The city and state have not benefitted by having unions around, and they are nothing but vicious leeches living off the taxpayer simply because they can.
California is uniquely disinterested in what they do to their kids and their kids kids. Nothing else could explain the wildly over the national average pub empl pensions scams. Knowingly electing Union owned politicians doomed California.
reality facilitator

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Mar 18, 2013
Joe Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
California is uniquely disinterested in what they do to their kids and their kids kids. Nothing else could explain the wildly over the national average pub empl pensions scams. Knowingly electing Union owned politicians doomed California.
Not true. A massive influx of a third world underclass has been deposited in So Cal. They are going to vote democrat, to get the free social services. Why shouldn't they? They're not assimilated. They can't function very well in a growing society based on technology. This is about absorbing the welfare cases of Mexico, while democrats create a fog of lies to allow their entry, which increases their power base.
The average voter doesn't know or care about the first thing that's going on. Black voters are usually stupid and clueless. They still complain about the KKK. Whites move out to the incorporated suburbs where they don't have to deal with it, or think about it. Asians are just trying to have a nice day wherever they are, and don't even think about these things.
When has any large group, or democrat or republican, responded appropriately to a large and growing fically charged bubble? Never. They wait for it to explode. In this case, it's illegal immigrants. Repubs and dems love the lower construction, yardkeeping, and nanny expenses while making everyone else pay for their healthcare. That's a bubble situation. They won't do a thing about it on either side that makes sense. Few people, dems or repubs, want to pay 10K more to have a kitchen installed, or a nanny who doesn't steal.
How much would Americans have saved if we had shipped virtually all blacks back to Liberia and Sierre Leone after the civil war? Trillions. It was a no-brainer. Lincoln had set aside tens of millions to do just that. Unfortunately, he got shot, and his program fell to the wayside. Without strong leadership, sheep are going to roam wherever the grass is. That's all there is to it.

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