Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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And don't forget to mention the majority of lesbians who do not. Most folks don't really worry about what another couple wears (or doesn't) on their wedding day. Weddings are usually designed to suit the likes and dislikes of the couples involved.
C'mon Questy, even you can sense the underlying roles in the wedding dressed/ tuxedoed lesbian couple. "See we're just like a bride and groom getting married". Uhhhhh...huh.
Some women are more comfortable in "traditionally" female clothes. Some are more comfortable on more traditionally male clothes. Some could care less about the whole thing.
And this applies to ALL women, not just lesbians. If you disagree, you aren't living in a rural area. Most of the female farmers around here are, in dress, indistinguishable from their husbands.
Why the heck would a female farmer wear a wedding dress out in the fields?
And, yes, they should all be able to marry the single unrelated adult of their choice.
Choice is the key, isn't it?
In spouses and in clothes.
As long as that unrelated, first cousins included, adult of their choice is of the opposite sex. That way it's still marriage....you know a legally recognized union of husband and wife. Hmmmmm...wait you don't want the husband and wife part, but you like the outfits on wedding day.

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While there are those gays and lesbians who do not want to see same-sex marriage legalized, I'm certain that most of them believe that the gay and lesbian couples who DO want access to marriage SHOULD have the CHOICE available to enter into a marriage.
Tom Geoghegan from BBC News has a very interesting article on his interviews with a range of people with same-sex attraction who nevertheless oppose redefining marriage. The reasons given are varied, but the telling factor is that they realise what the debate is about: the issue is not same-sex couples; the issue is marriage: what it is, and what its purpose is.

"It's demonstrably not the same as heterosexual marriage - the religious and social significance of a gay wedding ceremony simply isn't the same."

Jonathan Soroff lives in liberal Massachusetts with his male partner, Sam. He doesn't fit the common stereotype of an opponent of gay marriage.

But like half of his friends, he does not believe that couples of the same gender should marry.

"We're not going to procreate as a couple and while the desire to demonstrate commitment might be laudable, the religious traditions that have accommodated same-sex couples have had to do some fairly major contortions," says Soroff.

The point he has made, is that SSCs should have legal protections, but its not marriage. Civil Unions would work.
This issue is about a couple having the RIGHT to make a decision to marry based on their own personal beliefs and values.
It's always been about how we, as a society, define marriage. Even gay folks recognize the importance of maintaining marriage, legally, as a male female union, while granting SSCs legal protections.
Regarding what opponents of same-sex marriage "think", I have these sage words... Opinions are like assholes--everyone has one and most of them stink.
Even judges, who offer, or render opinions?

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So, does "marriage" basically mean when straight people are in rut then ?
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Frankie was USN, not USMC
That's right. I wanted to be a marine but I couldn't pass the physical. My head wouldn't fit in the jar!
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So, does "marriage" basically mean when straight people are in rut then ?
No.
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That would make them polyandrists. Do you know why most women wouldn't want multiple husbands? It can be summed up in one expression. "Oh my aching back". It might help if one husband was a chiropractor. Can u imagine the sports pay per view cable bill? The NFL package alone is a few hundred dollars.
And the beer and pizza! Marone.
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.....it's time to grow up.
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Oh, this is simply horrible. More posts have been obliterated by a "moderator" who only yesterday picked hairs off urinal cakes at Carls Jr.

What kind of a loser is a moderator at such a lowbrow site?

I'm laughing at you, loser.
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Anyone else ever notice that Big D only posts M-F 7AM-3PM? In other words on the boss's computer and on the boss's time. Fun way to while away the day, must be a government employee. So it's on us! Nice touch.
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Oh, this is simply horrible. More posts have been obliterated by a "moderator" who only yesterday picked hairs off urinal cakes at Carls Jr.
What kind of a loser is a moderator at such a lowbrow site?
I'm laughing at you, loser.
Jizzy (Zoro). That's the only way he can win an argument.

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Yes and legally, at least in 32 states, marriage is a legally recognized union of husband and wife. So if you those EXACT SAME protections, then marry, the EXACT SAME way.
Is there a compelling state interest served by confining the legal protections of marriage to being between a man and a woman? If not, we simply have 32 states with unconstitutional laws, which will eventually be overturned.
You are good at pointing towards the existing laws, but you are lousy in defending them.
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It's not "terminology" but rather form and function. No matter which way you spin it, as same sex union, male or female, is not the same as an opposite sex union.
No two marriages are the same, pointing out that there are differences is a far cry from making a valid case against equal protection of the law for same sex couples to marry.
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Men and women are different.
Did you figure that one out all on your own?
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Biology 101.

Biology will also show you that some of the population is homosexual. The constitution will show you that all people are entitled to equal protection of the laws.

At the end of the day, all of your arguments of normalcy, opposite sex couples being different, etc are all irrelevant. None offers a valid reason to deny same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry.
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It's like calling a veggie patty a burger. "Gee Wilkerson, it has the texture like a hamburger, color, and even grill marks, let's call it a burger, that way the vegan activists won't be upset".
Do you think that this was relevant, or did you have a TIA?

If you are trying to compare veggie burgers, hamburgers, and marriage, perhaps you need professional help? Ironically veggie burgers ARE still called burgers, as are turkey burgers, buffalo burgers, and even tofu burgers, so even your hypothetical example doesn't really pan out the way you had wanted.
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SHUDDUP CREEP! Who rattled your cage?
Aww be a good little squirt ... you mad?
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Aww be a good little squirt ... you mad?
No. So SHUDDUP Creep! I'll give you a little squirt.

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Is there a compelling state interest served by confining the legal protections of marriage to being between a man and a woman? If not, we simply have 32 states with unconstitutional laws, which will eventually be overturned.
You are good at pointing towards the existing laws, but you are lousy in defending them.
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No two marriages are the same, pointing out that there are differences is a far cry from making a valid case against equal protection of the law for same sex couples to marry.
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Did you figure that one out all on your own?
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Biology will also show you that some of the population is homosexual. The constitution will show you that all people are entitled to equal protection of the laws.
At the end of the day, all of your arguments of normalcy, opposite sex couples being different, etc are all irrelevant. None offers a valid reason to deny same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry.
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Do you think that this was relevant, or did you have a TIA?
If you are trying to compare veggie burgers, hamburgers, and marriage, perhaps you need professional help? Ironically veggie burgers ARE still called burgers, as are turkey burgers, buffalo burgers, and even tofu burgers, so even your hypothetical example doesn't really pan out the way you had wanted.
Damn Pietro Armando u just got served bro...nice work lides u just totally owned that guy.

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Damn Pietro Armando u just got served bro...nice work lides u just totally owned that guy.
Easy there Chester Cheetah.....in the words of Frankie Rizzo, "Relax Fruit loop"!
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Easy there Chester Cheetah.....in the words of Frankie Rizzo, "Relax Fruit loop"!
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Easy there Chester Cheetah.....in the words of Frankie Rizzo, "Relax Fruit loop"!
Thanks a lot, now I'm craving cheetos and fruit loops, and I have neither one here.
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Just more gravel road bed material flying round, when you clowns get your acts together call me and I'll set you straight, again!

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Is there a compelling state interest served by confining the legal protections of marriage to being between a man and a woman?
Why yes there is. Is there a compelling state interest in redefining marriage, in calling a came sex personal intimate sexual relationship, marriage? No, there is not.
If not, we simply have 32 states with unconstitutional laws, which will eventually be overturned.
What we have are state constitutions which define marriage as, surprise, a union of one man and one woman.
You are good at pointing towards the existing laws, but you are lousy in defending them.
They stand on their own merits.
No two marriages are the same, pointing out that there are differences
Hellllooooooo....differences? Function and form.
is a far cry from making a valid case against equal protection of the law for same sex couples to marry.
How can u have equal protection when the form and function are not the same?
Biology will also show you that some of the population is homosexual
That has yet to b conclusively proven. Even so, there's no reason to redefine marriage.
. The constitution will show you that all people are entitled to equal protection of the laws.
Exactly, all men and all women, each able to marry the other sex.

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At the end of the day, all of your arguments of normalcy, opposite sex couples being different, etc are all irrelevant.
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Marriage exists because there r two sexes, come to think of, so do you.
None offers a valid reason to deny same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry.
There's no valid reason to call a SSR, legally, marriage.
If you are trying to compare veggie burgers, hamburgers, and marriage, perhaps you need professional help? Ironically veggie burgers ARE still called burgers, as are turkey burgers, buffalo burgers, and even tofu burgers, so even your hypothetical example doesn't really pan out the way you had wanted.
Yet, manufacturers, attempt to create a veggie patty that looks like a hamburger. Hmmmmmm.....

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Hey Pietro, you greaseball, if life is so bella how come you're hiding out in a sewer in Detroit?
Nice talk from a man of the cloth. You must b one of those mail order reverends, just like the Reverend Al.

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