Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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If marriage is strictly a religious thing why do you need a marriage license issued by the government and why are divorces settled in court by lawyers? Why can you get married by a priest but also by a judge, mayor or many other government employees? Why do they say by the power vested in me by the state of _______??? All of these things prove it's a civil matter not religious. If you can't see that you are just dumb. You can have your beliefs but don't impose your will upon others. If your beliefs and faith are hat get you by that should be enough for you. Don't hold others from having their own beliefs. That's what this country is about freedom.
Because times have changed. God and Jesus are no longer household names, nobody cares! Everything is a civil/government issue. Yeah I don't agree with everything the bible says, I have my questions. But seriously get real people. If you are'nt gay or les. Whatever, are you going to tell me it doesn't bother you to see 2 guys making out going crazy on eachother in front of you. I'm sure it does! You know that uncomftorable feeling you get in your stomach, those are'nt hunger pains, you know deep down ITS WRONG!!
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"Not that I find it appealing." - Cultural conditioning.
How about this scenario. A brother and sister who never knew each other fall in love not knowing they are related. They later find out. What should they do?
Incest marriage should be allowed. It will be so extremely rare that it's almost guaranteed those against it will never have to be offended by the sight of a happy incestuous family.
Same with consensual adult poly marriage. Won't hurt anyone. Those against it will probably never have to be offended by the sight of a happy poly family.
What is it with you and incest dude. Should I be reading between the lines here! You keep trying to justify it and I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're being serious!

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You keep quoting a fictional book. It also talks of slaves and gang rape of virgins. Do you believe all of it or just the things that are convenient for you??
First, its not a single book, but rather a collection of different types of writtings, letters, poetry, laws, history, etc. "ta biblia".

Second, it is not all fiction.

Third, it was written over a 1500 give or take year period by different authors, in different times and places, and in several languages.

Lastly your view can be just as ignorant as someone who takes it literally.

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<quoted text>Look it up it clearly says a man shall not lye with another man! Yes Jesus died for our sins but I think you are justifying this a little too much! It's like me saying it's okay I can go commite a murder but I'll be okay as long I confess my sins because that's what jesus died for! Marriage is HOLY matramony, and when you wed gays, that's like lieing under oath!
Your bible also prohibits tattoos, eating ham or using a pigskin football, getting remarried after divorce, rounded haircuts, men missing testicals from entering a church, psychics, gossip, women speaking in the house of god, cursing at your parents, eating shellfish, working on the sabbath, and losing your virginity before marriage. If you want to follow your little book maybe you should focus on everything in it not just gays that want to be happy.

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If marriage is strictly a religious thing why do you need a marriage license issued by the government and why are divorces settled in court by lawyers? Why can you get married by a priest but also by a judge, mayor or many other government employees? Why do they say by the power vested in me by the state of _______??? All of these things prove it's a civil matter not religious. If you can't see that you are just dumb. You can have your beliefs but don't impose your will upon others. If your beliefs and faith are hat get you by that should be enough for you. Don't hold others from having their own beliefs. That's what this country is about freedom.
What is the point of the license. Why does it matter who marries who?

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<quoted text>Because times have changed. God and Jesus are no longer household names, nobody cares! Everything is a civil/government issue. Yeah I don't agree with everything the bible says, I have my questions. But seriously get real people. If you are'nt gay or les. Whatever, are you going to tell me it doesn't bother you to see 2 guys making out going crazy on eachother in front of you. I'm sure it does! You know that uncomftorable feeling you get in your stomach, those are'nt hunger pains, you know deep down ITS WRONG!!
Well PDA of straights isn't what I want to see either. Their are limits as to how far any couple should go in public. So if you don't agree with everything in the bible why is this one thing you choose to believe?? Just because it makes you feel icky? Really are u kidding me. Maybe we should ban spiders and snakes then too. How ridiculous

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<quoted text>What is the point of the license. Why does it matter who marries who?
It shows that it's a legal contract. Government decisions on issues are supposed to be based on the constitution not religion.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>First, its not a single book, but rather a collection of different types of writtings, letters, poetry, laws, history, etc. "ta biblia".

Second, it is not all fiction.

Third, it was written over a 1500 give or take year period by different authors, in different times and places, and in several languages.

Lastly your view can be just as ignorant as someone who takes it literally.
So you admit some is fiction? Most is opinion. It takes the views and opinions of many and expects people to follow like sheep. Logically that just sounds stupid. Why do I believe something because someone told me to? Really that's their basis? Think for yourselves people. Women couldn't vote that was wrong blacks couldn't do almost anything that was wrong interracial marriage was illegal that was wrong. We should all be treated as equals including gays.
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<quoted text>What is it with you and incest dude. Should I be reading between the lines here! You keep trying to justify it and I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're being serious!
My sister is SMOKIN' HOT!

But she's very religious and won't have sex before marriage. What does Jesus say I should do?

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<quoted text>Look it up it clearly says a man shall not lye with another man! Yes Jesus died for our sins but I think you are justifying this a little too much! It's like me saying it's okay I can go commite a murder but I'll be okay as long I confess my sins because that's what jesus died for! Marriage is HOLY matramony, and when you wed gays, that's like lieing under oath!
Did you really just compare same-gender marriage to murder? Seriously?

Homosexuality was one of 613 laws that the ancient Hebrews felt violated God's rules. And keep in mind, when they decided it was a law, the Hebrews were trying to grow their population. Obviously they felt that any behavior that didn't add to their numbers should be outlawed.

Christ's birth, life, death, and resurrection saved us from the ancient law.

When asked what is the most important law, Christ said, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.

See... There's nothing about "homosexuality" in there...

If you commit murder, then you're not loving your neighbor as you love yourself.

And if you look at the top 10 (commandments), you'll not see "homosexuality". You WILL, however, find murder.

Try to get some perspective.

I have faith in you, country girl. I want to have a respectful conversation with you.

If you could find it in yourself to stop focusing on what is a very small aspect of our lives (not to mention something that is none of anyone's business), then you'll probably be able to accept us on some level.

I don't know what you do in bedroom. For all I know you swing from the chandeliers. But it's none of my business. I don't want to know about it. And I certainly am not going to pass judgment on you.

A little mutual respect goes a long way.

Now let's try to work this out and find some common ground.
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What is the point of the license. Why does it matter who marries who?
Government perks. If they all went away, and they should, we'd quickly see marriage lose it's importance for many if not most people.

As far as end of life issues and all that, a simple contract with someone you trust will do fine.

It's tax time. Boy would I like to check another box besides "single". So would my girlfriend. But neither of us wants to get married.

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It shows that it's a legal contract. Government decisions on issues are supposed to be based on the constitution not religion.
Please answer the questions.

1.). Why does marriage need to be licensed?

2.). Why does it matter who marries who?
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The pesto limits can be found here: http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/

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<quoted text>Please answer the questions.

1.). Why does marriage need to be licensed?

2.). Why does it matter who marries who?
The government in the country you live says you need a license to marry. Why do I need a license to drive? Fly a place? Practice medicine etc.
I want the same rights as a heterosexual couple that's all just equality.

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<quoted text>Please answer the questions.

1.). Why does marriage need to be licensed?

2.). Why does it matter who marries who?
It's the 1,138 rights that straight couples have that gay couples don't. It's not the word we are fighting for.

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There are no major reasons to deny SSM, I support it. Marriage is good for society. ALL marriage, not just marriages you approve of.
Now it's your turn. Why are you a hypocrite supporting same sex marriage but not poly marriage? What are your reasons?
Just what I thought, you canít respond to my question, hypocritical hater.

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Nice!
No thanks. I don't want to sex up my sister, toots. Just want to discuss marriage equality.
No you don't.

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Government perks. If they all went away, and they should, we'd quickly see marriage lose it's importance for many if not most people.
As far as end of life issues and all that, a simple contract with someone you trust will do fine.
It's tax time. Boy would I like to check another box besides "single". So would my girlfriend. But neither of us wants to get married.
Especially her, if she actually existed.
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Did you really just compare same-gender marriage to murder? Seriously?
Homosexuality was one of 613 laws that the ancient Hebrews felt violated God's rules. And keep in mind, when they decided it was a law, the Hebrews were trying to grow their population. Obviously they felt that any behavior that didn't add to their numbers should be outlawed.
Christ's birth, life, death, and resurrection saved us from the ancient law.
When asked what is the most important law, Christ said, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.
See... There's nothing about "homosexuality" in there...
If you commit murder, then you're not loving your neighbor as you love yourself.
And if you look at the top 10 (commandments), you'll not see "homosexuality". You WILL, however, find murder.
Try to get some perspective.
I have faith in you, country girl. I want to have a respectful conversation with you.
If you could find it in yourself to stop focusing on what is a very small aspect of our lives (not to mention something that is none of anyone's business), then you'll probably be able to accept us on some level.
I don't know what you do in bedroom. For all I know you swing from the chandeliers. But it's none of my business. I don't want to know about it. And I certainly am not going to pass judgment on you.
A little mutual respect goes a long way.
Now let's try to work this out and find some common ground.
I don't read the bible on a daily basis. Actually the last time I did was when I was a little girl like 15 yrs ago.lol. this is just stuff I know is in there. My life doesn't revolve around bigotry and hating people for their prefrences in life, Yeah I think sex marriage is wrongg, but I'm just trying to fit in on the conversation;) Don't worry people you're not going to see me marching in the anti rainbow parade.lol:)
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My sister is SMOKIN' HOT!
But she's very religious and won't have sex before marriage. What does Jesus say I should do?
Well I suggest you go into therapy and have a professional try and work out your problem, I can guarantee there are smokin hot babes out there tthat you are not related to, there sunshine!

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