Navajo Nation prepares for inauguration; Charges still stand against 11 delegates

There are 14 comments on the Jan 8, 2011, Farmington Daily Times story titled Navajo Nation prepares for inauguration; Charges still stand against 11 delegates. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Twenty-four delegates will be sworn in Tuesday to the reduced Navajo Tribal Council in Window Rock, Ariz., during ceremonies that include inauguration of President-elect Ben Shelly and Vice President-elect Rex Lee Jim.

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Shorty Nez

United States

#42 Jan 11, 2011
hilllbilly wrote:
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Hey Sam,
I am happy to see that the Dine',(meaning the one and only race of real humans-ethnocentrism at its' finest. lol),
I think you're projecting your own ethnocentrism here. The word "dine" in navajo was used only to distinguish us from animals. Most navajo used the word in context such as nakai dine (mexican people), biligaana dine (white people), etc. Most modern navajo have shortened it to one word when talking about people, in general,(KNDN radio is a good example, they regularly use the one word when broadcasting the news) in 48 yrs, I've never heard it used in the manner you suggest.

“Socialism leads to starvation”

Since: Jul 09

Aztec

#43 Jan 11, 2011
Shorty Nez wrote:
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I think you're projecting your own ethnocentrism here. The word "dine" in navajo was used only to distinguish us from animals. Most navajo used the word in context such as nakai dine (mexican people), biligaana dine (white people), etc. Most modern navajo have shortened it to one word when talking about people, in general,(KNDN radio is a good example, they regularly use the one word when broadcasting the news) in 48 yrs, I've never heard it used in the manner you suggest.
I heard a different oral tradition of the word. The definition I was told, came from a clan that used to fight with the Mountain Utes. They where the same clan that mentioned that the word 'anasazi' also could mean ancient enemy.
Thankful that not all clans have become fort indians,

“Socialism leads to starvation”

Since: Jul 09

Aztec

#44 Jan 11, 2011
Side note - The Dine' kicked unholly arse from the Great Slave Lake, near the Artic Cicle, to the warmer climate of the SW. The Tribe has a longer history of conquest then the Vikings. Go Dine'
Heck, while the tribes in the West Indies were bending over and the eastern tribes were conceding land, the Dine' where kicking some Conquestador arse.(Check out the Navajo ruin in Largo canyon.)
I just am pained to see the heritage of the Tribe being turned into a PC grifting queqmire,

“Socialism leads to starvation”

Since: Jul 09

Aztec

#45 Jan 11, 2011
ruin should have been multiple ruins in the Largo Canyon drianage basin.
rezbah

Los Angeles, CA

#46 Jan 11, 2011
get real wrote:
Money is like alcohol to these people-very addictive and they can't handle it.
'these people'??
Why don't you take it back where it came from, and stay there too!
TomS

Tucson, AZ

#47 Jan 11, 2011
hilllbilly wrote:
Side note - The Dine' kicked unholly arse from the Great Slave Lake, near the Artic Cicle, to the warmer climate of the SW. The Tribe has a longer history of conquest then the Vikings. Go Dine'
Heck, while the tribes in the West Indies were bending over and the eastern tribes were conceding land, the Dine' where kicking some Conquestador arse.(Check out the Navajo ruin in Largo canyon.)
I just am pained to see the heritage of the Tribe being turned into a PC grifting queqmire,
It really is dis-heartening to see this happening collectively. However (understanding), there are relatively still a small percentage though who still do carry on traditions and adhere to cultural aspects and carry on with their immediate family members, and outright to aunts, uncles. It is unfortunate like society as a whole, Dine' is turning against Dine' to point of taking with out asking for permission. You could have NOTHING worth of any material value, but still there is generally one or two who insist on taking that away!
Butter Knive

Fort Defiance, AZ

#48 Jan 11, 2011
Conservative wrote:
Enough already DT, people are innocent unless found guilty by 12 of their peers. What in the name of heaven does the Navajo Nation Inauguration have to do with accusations about possible crime - this paper is so biased, it is unreal.
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. The "new leadership" was being crowned under a black cloud of Federal charges. Probability says they are guilty. The money they are accuses of stealing was taxpayer money, not Navajo money. 90% of Navajo money is off reservation derived. Know who butters your bread.

“Socialism leads to starvation”

Since: Jul 09

Aztec

#49 Jan 11, 2011
TomS wrote:
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It really is dis-heartening to see this happening collectively. However (understanding), there are relatively still a small percentage though who still do carry on traditions and adhere to cultural aspects and carry on with their immediate family members, and outright to aunts, uncles. It is unfortunate like society as a whole, Dine' is turning against Dine' to point of taking with out asking for permission. You could have NOTHING worth of any material value, but still there is generally one or two who insist on taking that away!
I have seen the stealing justified as traditional communial behaviour. Not just stealing, but also vandalism of property.
Too bad that the traditional beliefs in communal living has been warped by western coveting.
Power to the traditionalists that are still standing, both inside and outside of the 4 mountians.
Take care,
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#50 Jan 11, 2011
hilllbilly wrote:
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I have seen the stealing justified as traditional communial behaviour. Not just stealing, but also vandalism of property.
Too bad that the traditional beliefs in communal living has been warped by western coveting.
Power to the traditionalists that are still standing, both inside and outside of the 4 mountians.
Take care,
Just a tid bit...rumor has it that the Tribe doesn't do background checks on their newly appointed officials...watch in the days to come...they're not doing the Tribe justice by not being studious in their appointments. The new President has already spearheaded an appointment for the Director over the Public Safety Administration who has an outstanding warrant...What! An outstanding warrant!!! You can run, but you can't hide. Do your research and backgrounds before you appoint anyone to such an important position! Corruption will plague the new administration if they aren't careful! The new adminstration already has a tainted reputation at best, as we all know, before they took office today. We're watching, we're doing our homework...be careful who you put in such high positions of power! DO A BACKGROUND CHECK! DUH!!!!
My Thoughts

Farmington, NM

#51 Jan 11, 2011
Good point, Whammer. I wish your point of view would be taken as well by Christesen and Westhall. There is more than the inclination towards corruption that can be exposed through background checks. Especially in this inbred (do not wish to speak too harshly) community.
whammer jammer wrote:
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Just a tid bit...rumor has it that the Tribe doesn't do background checks on their newly appointed officials...watch in the days to come...they're not doing the Tribe justice by not being studious in their appointments. The new President has already spearheaded an appointment for the Director over the Public Safety Administration who has an outstanding warrant...What! An outstanding warrant!!! You can run, but you can't hide. Do your research and backgrounds before you appoint anyone to such an important position! Corruption will plague the new administration if they aren't careful! The new adminstration already has a tainted reputation at best, as we all know, before they took office today. We're watching, we're doing our homework...be careful who you put in such high positions of power! DO A BACKGROUND CHECK! DUH!!!!
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#52 Jan 11, 2011
My Thoughts wrote:
Good point, Whammer. I wish your point of view would be taken as well by Christesen and Westhall. There is more than the inclination towards corruption that can be exposed through background checks. Especially in this inbred (do not wish to speak too harshly) community.
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Ooh Rah My Thoughts! Thanks for your diligence and support...all positions of authority should and must undergo the utmost background investigation...After all, these are the appointees who will represent these leaders. SJCSO and FPD do in-depth background checks into their candidates for positions of authority. The Tribe will do their community proud by following their lead...they will earn and honor the trust of the people. In turn, the people with learn to honor and trust the decisions of their leaders. It would do our Nation's President proud to adopt some of the practices followed by those they seek assistance from...the county and city law enforcement...do Background checks on those you appoint...otherwise, we're watching, we're judging, we're holding you, our leaders, accountable.
Sam

Albuquerque, NM

#53 Jan 13, 2011
I just want the old Chief Drive In movie back, so I can watch kung fu movies, when I visit my relatives that still live there. It was a good place to hang out in the summertime....when I was a kid.
:P
hilllbilly wrote:
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Hey Sam,
It seems that both of us are rather ethnocentric. I am proud of the cracker tribe's wheel, mathematics and the scientific method. I am shamed by the cracker tribe's greed, a need for instant gratification, chemical addictions, cash run religion, TV and that it is a social norm to act like you do not have parents.
I am happy to see that the Dine',(meaning the one and only race of real humans-ethnocentrism at its' finest. lol), understand cycles and patterns, have a strong sense of kin and clan ties and can bend instead of break. What bums me out is that the crackers tribe of grifting seems to have infected Windowrock.
I hope for the best and I am still scratching my head as to why there is not a truck stop in Shiprock. They do have a captive audience for local commerce.(Just don't let your kids eat any pre-packaged food from the Qwik-e-Mart.)
Grifters are just modern skinwalkers,
Myob

Chinle, AZ

#54 Jan 13, 2011
whammer jammer wrote:
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Just a tid bit...rumor has it that the Tribe doesn't do background checks on their newly appointed officials...watch in the days to come...they're not doing the Tribe justice by not being studious in their appointments. The new President has already spearheaded an appointment for the Director over the Public Safety Administration who has an outstanding warrant...What! An outstanding warrant!!! You can run, but you can't hide. Do your research and backgrounds before you appoint anyone to such an important position! Corruption will plague the new administration if they aren't careful! The new adminstration already has a tainted reputation at best, as we all know, before they took office today. We're watching, we're doing our homework...be careful who you put in such high positions of power! DO A BACKGROUND CHECK! DUH!!!!
Yes sir I pegged you as the type that listens to rumor and gossip like an old lady. On your knees woman.

“Socialism leads to starvation”

Since: Jul 09

Aztec

#55 Jan 13, 2011
Sam wrote:
I just want the old Chief Drive In movie back, so I can watch kung fu movies, when I visit my relatives that still live there. It was a good place to hang out in the summertime....when I was a kid.
:P
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The old Kung Fu movies might have been fun, but the classic westerns, filled with Navajo profanity words were the best. LOL Nothing is funnier then knowing that John Wayne was cused out on the big screen.
Enjoy,

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