Heated discussions over Pa.'s new sprinkler rules

Full story: York Dispatch 10
Fire Chief Richard Shank figures one day people will consider sprinkler systems as critical to their homes as smoke detectors. Full Story
traff616

United States

#1 Sep 7, 2010
The newly imposed sprinkler rules do nothing but INFRINGE ON THE FREEDOM AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF THE HOME BUYER, COST THE TAXPAYER MORE, ALLOW UNIONS TO FEED FROM THE RESIDENTIAL HOME MARKET TROUGH, PREVENT NEW CONSTRUCTION AND FURTHER DEPRESS THE HOUSING MARKET and GAURANTEE FURTHER WET DAMAGE TO YOUR HOME IN CASE OF A SMALL FIRE THAT CAN BE CONTROLLED WITH A HOME EXTINGUISHER. This is nothing but another MAJOR INTRUSION by Supreme Leader Obama and his Comrades in charge.
No More Stupid Laws

York, PA

#2 Sep 7, 2010
Sprinklers do not save lives....they activate and turn on at about 150 degrees or so. Smoke alarms go off to alert homeowners WAY before that. Sprinklers also do alot of damage to property, almost as much as the fire itself. This is nothing more than a MONEY ploy by pipe fitters etc.

All these codes and laws are ruining this state. They are adding to the cost and complexity of the building industry Slowing down projects and will inevitably keep builders from building in Pennsylvania. Because not many people will be able to afford the homes.

Also, homes being built in rural areas will require a storage tank and also a generator because most homes in the rural section rely on wells, which requires a pump which requires electricity to run. And in order to insure the sprinklers work with a electrical outage each home will require a back-up generator.

The people that support this law are truly stupid.

I can tell you this much. I wont be building a home in Pennsylvania...thats for sure.

This Should be left to the BUILDER AND THE BUYER!!
York City Resident

Huntingdon Valley, PA

#3 Sep 7, 2010
Considering the incredibly inadequate, underfunded and archaic system in Pennsylvania of fire departments, this might be a good idea.
Jakkie Hammer

Wrightsville, PA

#4 Sep 7, 2010
I have a very valid suggestion - When you proponents of this mandate retrofit YOUR home with this system first, then and only then will I consider changing my mind to your way of thinking.
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You turkeys are just like politicians; you want everyone else to always be the ones making the change and spending their hard-earned dollars to conform to your way of thinking! Get off homeowners backs! With todays economy and job outlook you sure picked a pi$$ poor time to make homeowners dig deeper into their wallets. Enough is enough!
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And talk about a dumb statement, "...could possibly get reduced insurance premiums because of discounts offered by insurance companies.". Uh, "possibly" doesn't cut it Rosie; either there IS or there is NOT a discount. Speculating like a politician doesn't cut it!
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And "...Konkle said some insurance companies are already offering discounts, which help defray the cost of the sprinkler systems over the long term." Great dude; how much of a discount? And do you realize how many years worth of 'discounts' it will take to pay for these $10-$12,000 systems, at $50-$75./yr discount. Again; what a joke?!!!!!!!!!
Mary

AOL

#5 Sep 7, 2010
If sprinklers ate so good why don"t the fire houses have them?
John Vonzeit

Wrightsville, PA

#6 Sep 7, 2010
No More Stupid Laws wrote:
...Also, homes being built in rural areas will require a storage tank and also a generator because most homes in the rural section rely on wells, which requires a pump which requires electricity to run. And in order to insure the sprinklers work with a electrical outage each home will require a back-up generator.
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EXCELLENT POINT! I have been told by several fire department line officers that the only thing holding up this law was how to handle rural sprinkler applications since it takes much more pressure to operate these sprinkler systems than most rural systems are capable of producing.
Mr Final Word

York, PA

#7 Sep 7, 2010
This makes no sense! The Builders Association is the one who lobbied for PA to adopt universal codes. Basically, it was done to make it impossible for individuals to build their own homes. The regulations are complex and only someone who works full time in the construction field could possibly understand every last detail. They figured it would be good for business because it would force private citizens into hiring professionals anytime they needed some work done. But NOW the b**stards are unhappy over this issue because due to the costs involved with sprinklers, it may HURT rather than help their business. Its about them. Always about the well being of their trade organization.
Anthony

York, PA

#8 Sep 7, 2010
Nothing anyone has to worry about.... in this economy adding a system that cost's several thousand no one will be building anyway. Then all those lawmakers can find another career when all of us unemployed people vote there asses out. Talk about safety... there's a safe bet!
Socialists Amok

Red Lion, PA

#9 Sep 8, 2010
You can justify most anything on the grounds of safety, even the gradual confiscation of property.
Check out the new EPA lead paint "rule". Wake up America. If you thought your 401K took a bath a few years ago, wait until your home is worth zero.
Sharon

Annapolis, MD

#10 Oct 1, 2010
John Vonzeit wrote:
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EXCELLENT POINT! I have been told by several fire department line officers that the only thing holding up this law was how to handle rural sprinkler applications since it takes much more pressure to operate these sprinkler systems than most rural systems are capable of producing.
Wrong, generator's are NOT required. Rural areas should embrace sprinklers, Fire Departments typically have a longer distance to travel in order to service these homes.

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