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Chronic Polluters, Tainted Waters -- Courant.com

There are 39 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Sep 9, 2007, titled Chronic Polluters, Tainted Waters -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Michael Friedman pushed his canoe into the Naugatuck River at Reynolds Bridge in Thomaston and set out for an evening ride in the spring of 2000.

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Judge And Jury

Durham, CT

#22 Sep 9, 2007
Peter wrote:
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The anti-government republican party sabotages government enforcement and then blames the government for failing. It shows how incredibly stupid the voters of this country have been by supposedly(remember fla 2000) electing them!!!
At least the National Republicans know how to rig an election in Florida. They did it better than the Chicago Democrats in the 1960 election where the dead voted on absentee ballotsfor the Daily machine.
Peter

Winsted, CT

#23 Sep 9, 2007
Judge And Jury wrote:
<quoted text>At least the National Republicans know how to rig an election in Florida. They did it better than the Chicago Democrats in the 1960 election where the dead voted on absentee ballotsfor the Daily machine.
Shouldn't we expect some progress in 40 years? Also W Bush is NO JFK! You conservatives are just horrible people!
Dennis

East Hartford, CT

#24 Sep 9, 2007
The courant headline also asks "where is the DEP?" why, it's in the hip pocket of the "compassionate conservatives" that appointed the heads of the agency. Another bush legacy... a destroyed ecology in the name of corporate executive profits.
John

Worcester, MA

#25 Sep 9, 2007
Dept.'s like the DEP are run by political hacks appointed by the ruling party. The bought-and-paid-for Republicans have sold out the citizenr of this Sate and country for years and years. Why ANYONE with a lick of sense or moderate economy votes for these dishonest, unscrupulous, dishonorable, unprincipled, unethical, amoral, untrustworthy, venal, underhanded, double-dealing, fraudulent, bribable, criminal, unlawful, nefarious, crooked, shady, dirty, sleazy scum is beyond reason.
what

Glastonbury, CT

#26 Sep 9, 2007
Simple how is this excusable.
A test would be to allow the CEOs family members to swim right off where the discharge is being ALLOWED.
Bruce Dawson

Peabody, MA

#27 Sep 9, 2007
Nobody can deny that the DEP has been "soft" on enforcement!
Obviously Commissioner McCarthy is just another ineffective figurehead! Is environmental protection such a low priority for Governor Rell?

“US Elects Fake”

Since: Aug 07

East of the River

#28 Sep 9, 2007
John wrote:
Dept.'s like the DEP are run by political hacks appointed by the ruling party. The bought-and-paid-for Republicans have sold out the citizenr of this Sate and country for years and years.
Well your rant proves my point pertaining to latent hate. Get over it.

May I also point out the the current ruling party is Democrat. Jodi Rell is no more a republican than my dog is a duck. 2 words: VETO PROOF.

That being so, then why haven't things changed for the better?
Barry

United States

#29 Sep 9, 2007
Having grown up in East Hartford in the 50's, I recall the Connecticut River and the Hockanum River being so polluted you could smell the stench for miles. We've come a long way. Both are far cleaner today than I ever thought possible. Sounds like there's still a lot of work to do however. Too bad big money gets it's way.
I Wonder

Waterbury, CT

#30 Sep 9, 2007
Is John Rowland still getting paid as a consultant by retired UTC Chairman Harry Gray?
Brian

United States

#31 Sep 9, 2007
I can't believe how blind and ignorant you guys are. This is not a republician isssue. It is a legislative issue. All these jackasses running for president are blaming Bush for everything. The truth is that Dodd, Hilary and all the rest of those jerks can introduce legislation to correct the problems... but they don't do it. All they care about is getting elected. Spending 30 million dollars for a $500K a year job. The most they can earn is 4 million dollars in the eight years. This is why we need to get rid of the kennedy's Dodd's and lieberman's. We need NEW blood. We need to get rid of the same old same old crap that has been going on for 50 years. Put Americans back to work not the illegals, china, vietnam, Indonesia, Honduras, Mexico, and screw NAFTA. If Nafta is so great why do we still have illegals coming across? Stop and look at what is really happening. IT'S BOTH F'ING PARTIES. How can you not see that?
lichtme

Mystic, CT

#32 Sep 9, 2007
Barry,

It's more than likely that the rivers are doing better because the toxic industries polluting them moved to China.

We need to green the machine, start the next industrial revolution.

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Just have to thanks Rivers Alliance of CT and CT FUnd for the Environment for being on DEP's case, and trying to get them to enforce the laws that are obviously being broken thanks to Rell.
Dan M

United States

#33 Sep 9, 2007
If the HC checks the other permiting depts of the DEP they will also find excessive backlogs in those depts. as well. What do they do at the DEP when everytime you call a dept the standard voice mail is " I am either on the phone or away from my desk " No one actually answers the phone.
DemocRATS too

Westmont, IL

#34 Sep 9, 2007
Dummy Democrats controls the business agenda in CT. Not the impotent Republicans. Rell is a RINO.
RIGHT wrote:
All back in the days of Johnny Rowland taking care of business.
DemocRATS too

Westmont, IL

#35 Sep 9, 2007
You are a pedantic simpleton. The D machine runs CT. It controls all the business decisions. Also conservatives exist in both parties as do liberals.
Peter wrote:
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Shouldn't we expect some progress in 40 years? Also W Bush is NO JFK! You conservatives are just horrible people!
Bill Wolfe NJ PEER

Richmond, IN

#36 Sep 10, 2007
In the late 1980's, enviornmental groups in NJ documented very similar problems of a systemic failure by the NJ DEP to enforce Clean Water Act discharge permits. Something like 90%+ of water permit violations were not enforced.
This data was widely reported in press and an envrionmetnal group campaign pressured the legislature to limit NJ DEP's enforcement discretion and impose mandatory penalties. This led to passage of the Clean Water Enforcement Act, which sets mandatory penalties for water permit violations.
The Clean Water Enforcement Act has been a huge success. Permits are no longer ingored, complaicne rates have soared, and polluters have cleaned up their act.
Connecticut cna learn from NJ's expereince
Chris

Greenwich, CT

#37 Sep 10, 2007
jam wrote:
It is refreshing to read a solid, investigative piece that informs us all. Bravo. Thank you!
If this investigative piece is so "solid," then where is the discussion of the many municipal wastewater treatment facilities that also qualify as "major chemical dischargers" under the Clean Water Act? Maybe they're being ignored because pointing the finger at them leaves us with three fingers pointing back at us, the citizens of CT that take showers, flush our toilets, wash our dishes, etc....
knows things

United States

#38 Sep 14, 2007
i worked in one of the companies on the naugy for almosy 30 years, and was almost always in the middle of construction, demolition, cleanup,etc. the things buried (literally and figuratively) are more than most would expect. could i help? yes, but who would listen? who would believe me? most important, who would move forward to finally speed up the process to get these "rich criminal bastards" off my,*cross that out* OUR waters? maybe one day i will ge the chance.
Doing it right

New Haven, CT

#39 Sep 16, 2007
I still do work for one of those companies on the Naugy... I'm in charge of the Environmental Program. Our company is in compliance , not only with our current permit, but the one about to be implemented and the numbers proposed for 5 years down the road. But the town I work in chose not to extend their sewer line all the way and there are many dozens of homes and businesses that are still on septic and discharging into the river as well. The HC didn't bother to actually call any of these businesses, at least not ours, or I would have taken the call. Have any of you actually SEEN what a permit application looks like? Ours was Approx. 2" thick, took about 80 hours of in house time and at least that much consultant time to put together. A typical permit can take almost a year to review due, in part, to all the NIBMY's out there who want everything, but don't want to pay for it in any way, shape or form. We have a very good record and are very proud of it. Unfortunately, we had a ton of PR work to do after this story came out. The Courant did manage to give a small compliment in saying we had a much better record than other companies in the area. Bottom line is not all of us are bad guys. By the way, I have picniced by the river and it's absolutely beautiful. It's come a long way since I started 25 years ago. Getting better all the time.
polly

United States

#40 Oct 29, 2007
Peter wrote:
What environmental enforcement? Any jerk with money can pollute all he wants! This state is so corrupt it is incredible!(unfortunately the rest of the country is close behind- thanks to the republicans!!!!)
Start with Bill DiBella and the corrupt MDC where DeLuca will soon be employed.

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