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Chronic Polluters, Tainted Waters -- Courant.com

There are 39 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Sep 9, 2007, titled Chronic Polluters, Tainted Waters -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Michael Friedman pushed his canoe into the Naugatuck River at Reynolds Bridge in Thomaston and set out for an evening ride in the spring of 2000.

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Ron Webb

Prospect, CT

#1 Sep 9, 2007
As usuall no one wants to take the heat for dragging their feet.
all involved at the DEP should be fired and the offending companies shut down on the spot.
typical doubble buricratic standard.
RIGHT

Waterbury, CT

#2 Sep 9, 2007
All back in the days of Johnny Rowland taking care of business.
Phil

Farmington, CT

#3 Sep 9, 2007
Nice what a State, but you better wear your seat belt,or get your emissions sticker,or not talk on your cell phone,cause we will arrest your ass,and pay a fine. But its ok to kill our rivers, and lakes.Now we will hear from Jodie about how there will be a investigation and how she won't stand for this type of action in her state,what a phoney she and all the rest of the so calleed leaders of Ct.are!!!!
jam

Berlin, CT

#4 Sep 9, 2007
It is refreshing to read a solid, investigative piece that informs us all. Bravo. Thank you!
lichtme

Mystic, CT

#5 Sep 9, 2007
Fine article, especailly considering that the HC cut its environmental reportage during the dark years of Rowland.

Another step back would have let us see felon governor Rowland and his "business-friendly" pal DEP commisioner Art Rocque who made enforcement-footsy non-compliance a state policy.

Another step back and we'd see the national Republican agenda being implemented by Rell, who could change enforcement patterns over night but has obviously done nothing.

Start with the Pfizer Research Division in Groton, Ms. Rell, tomorrow!!
wendy

AOL

#6 Sep 9, 2007
...with chemical discharge permits.....exceed toxin limits...

What am I missing here? Why should any company be allowed to discharge ANY chemicals or pollutants into our water systems? How can there be a legal limit on a life threatening chemical.

Are they going to wait until we have another Love Canal type incident in CT?

Money speaks. We all know that from the John Rowland era. It appears that it still does.
Fred

Granby, CT

#7 Sep 9, 2007
"We're trying to make that turn" toward stronger enforcement, DEP Commissioner Gina McCarthy said, "but we have some serious backlogs to contend with."

TEN YEARS OF BACKLOG!!!!! What in heavens name has the DEP been doing all these years. Sitting on their duffs and getting rich at taxpayers and the environments expense.

Looks like the DEP is no better off than the DOT.
I suggest the DEP hold their next department picnic on the banks of the Housatonic in Thomaston.
Brian

United States

#8 Sep 9, 2007
Wow, you guys have a really bad taste in your mouth about rowland. This has been going on for more years than you want to know. Whyco plating has been in business long before Rowland even thought of a Gov's run. This is business as usual for state workers. Nothing checked, nothing done, whoa is me I am much to busy to do what I get paid for. With 50,000 state workers and growing by the day look forward to more incompetence.
Branford Tree-hugger

Branford, CT

#9 Sep 9, 2007
As long as the DEP's funding is derived substantially (perhaps mostly) from permit and license fees with substantial reductions in yearly state DEP appropriations, there will be a half-hearted effort in enforcing environmental violations. This isn't just a Rell problem, this is a Connecticut legislative problem shared by both parties. Witness the substantial reduction in the bonding support for our waste-water treatment plants and the resultant increase in Long Island Sound pollution. Increases in enforcement staff levels can only take place with increased legislative appropriations for the DEP, and increased oversight by a part-time legislature.
Brian

United States

#10 Sep 9, 2007
wendy wrote:
...with chemical discharge permits.....exceed toxin limits...
What am I missing here? Why should any company be allowed to discharge ANY chemicals or pollutants into our water systems? How can there be a legal limit on a life threatening chemical.
Are they going to wait until we have another Love Canal type incident in CT?
Money speaks. We all know that from the John Rowland era. It appears that it still does.
What you are missing is something has to be done with the chemical that make the bright shiny stuff that everyone wants to buy. The left over stuff has to go somewhere. Chrome nickel Molly are all issues when refined for product bought and sold everyday. Even something as simple as Black Oxide causes tremendous issues with high (14 PH) waste that needs to be neutralized before disposal. Everytime you turn on a light switch you produce a little bit of nuclear waste that has to go somewhere. We all contribute to this problem every single day because of what we consume. If we didn't buy it no one would make it. Pretty simple.
Retired CO

Durham, CT

#11 Sep 9, 2007
Ron Webb wrote:
As usuall no one wants to take the heat for dragging their feet.
all involved at the DEP should be fired and the offending companies shut down on the spot.
typical doubble buricratic standard.
Blame the Republicans and John Rowland & Co. Business as usual; perhaps the polluters should match their Rowland Campaign contributions with donations to private organizations who strive to clean up the rivers or Long Island Sound.
Mary NH

Chouteau, OK

#12 Sep 9, 2007
So------the state has the power to shut down known offenders---hit them in the pocketbook where it hurts the most---or---is that too simple a solution???How many people will get sick before it is looked at as an issue.For shame,Connecticut.I grew up in your state,which once was so beautiful with caring people.Not any more---sigh.
Susan L

Exeter, NH

#13 Sep 9, 2007
This article brings to light the total lack of responsibility of our state officials. How companies can blatantly be polluting our state rivers without consequences really makes you think that there's more to this than meets the eye.This is a problem that can not be ignored and needs to be investigated further. Our children's future depends on it.
Thank you for the "heads up"
Farfel

Harwinton, CT

#14 Sep 9, 2007
Criminalize pollution violators, and then criminalize failure to enforce as well.

So, who is going down for this?

No one!! Scumbag polluters keep getting richer, DEP losers get their salaries and pensions for looking the other way, Rell and her dark brood get re-elected.

If Gina had any sense whatsoever, she would focus the entire department on this problem and the "backlog".

Only in CT would someone allow a poisonous "backlog".... what the hell is going on in Hartford?
gruntled at DEP

Danbury, CT

#15 Sep 9, 2007
With the abuse of DEP staff by managment and the resulting low moral, it is no wonder that this problem exists? The back log would never be if management would get out of the way and let staff enforce the law. If staff pushes the enforcement button, it is chillville for sure.
Retired CO

Durham, CT

#16 Sep 9, 2007
Mary NH wrote:
So------the state has the power to shut down known offenders---hit them in the pocketbook where it hurts the most---or---is that too simple a solution???How many people will get sick before it is looked at as an issue.For shame,Connecticut.I grew up in your state,which once was so beautiful with caring people.Not any more---sigh.
How are the companies going to survive and provide Ct's best products which are jobs for those communities in Ct's rustbelts?
If the fines are paid there will not be any money for political contributions to the CT politicians.
The anti-pollution laws are there to be enforced; stop appointing "paper tiger" DEP Commisioners Governor Rell. Get with the program.

“US Elects Fake”

Since: Aug 07

East of the River

#17 Sep 9, 2007
Brian wrote:
Wow, you guys have a really bad taste in your mouth about rowland.
I hear you on that Brian. I almost feel bad bad for the significant number of people that keep hanging on to hate and their focus on JR. "Get over it" just isn't in their psyche.

But this isn't really about JR as anybody not driven by hate knows. This is about business as usual in CT. We're getting a lot of nothing for our money. Failure, incompetence and corruption has become the accepted norm and taxpayers seem to be quite willing to put up with it.(Oh, unless it's a Republican) This story is just another piece by the HC to support more government growth. That's the message. They are oh so overworked that they just don't have the time to renew permits, perform inspections or take action against violators. "We need X more people and more money". BS! Wahhh wahhh wahhhh.

Another 20,000 or maybe even another 50,000 state employees won't fix the problem but that won't stop the CGA from repeating the same old failed policies of throwing money and more state employees at the problem.

The income tax will eventually get bumped up and the sales tax will get increased. We'll be right back where we started in the pre-Weicker years but poorer. Somehow, this will be blamed on JR too. I'm actually quite surprised that someone hasn't blamed JR for the latest Avon Mountain crash, or I missed it.
DO THE RIGHT THING

Durham, CT

#18 Sep 9, 2007
We can't blame JR because he had a CSP chauffer at his disposal all the time while traversing the state' dangerous highways at the state's expense. I wonder what the personal servises trooper's salary was for those Rowland "Wonder Years " and how much his pension was for? Big Republican party all those years at the taxpayers expense.
Peter

Winsted, CT

#19 Sep 9, 2007
What environmental enforcement? Any jerk with money can pollute all he wants! This state is so corrupt it is incredible!(unfortunately the rest of the country is close behind- thanks to the republicans!!!!)
Peter

Winsted, CT

#20 Sep 9, 2007
2_Wheels wrote:
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I hear you on that Brian. I almost feel bad bad for the significant number of people that keep hanging on to hate and their focus on JR. "Get over it" just isn't in their psyche.
But this isn't really about JR as anybody not driven by hate knows. This is about business as usual in CT. We're getting a lot of nothing for our money. Failure, incompetence and corruption has become the accepted norm and taxpayers seem to be quite willing to put up with it.(Oh, unless it's a Republican) This story is just another piece by the HC to support more government growth. That's the message. They are oh so overworked that they just don't have the time to renew permits, perform inspections or take action against violators. "We need X more people and more money". BS! Wahhh wahhh wahhhh.
Another 20,000 or maybe even another 50,000 state employees won't fix the problem but that won't stop the CGA from repeating the same old failed policies of throwing money and more state employees at the problem.
The income tax will eventually get bumped up and the sales tax will get increased. We'll be right back where we started in the pre-Weicker years but poorer. Somehow, this will be blamed on JR too. I'm actually quite surprised that someone hasn't blamed JR for the latest Avon Mountain crash, or I missed it.
The anti-government republican party sabotages government enforcement and then blames the government for failing. It shows how incredibly stupid the voters of this country have been by supposedly(remember fla 2000) electing them!!!

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