Medical marijuana dispensaries banned...

Medical marijuana dispensaries banned in Butte County for now

There are 59 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Jan 13, 2010, titled Medical marijuana dispensaries banned in Butte County for now. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

For the moment, marijuana dispensaries are illegal anywhere in Butte County jurisdiction.

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John

Chico, CA

#60 Jan 29, 2010
Mom of Three wrote:
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There hasn't been a single study able to show that marijuana causes cancer, though they've tried really hard to construct one. If you can provide us with a link to one, please do.
They have proved it burns the hell out of your lungs worse than cloves cigs. There is study done by University in Amsterdam. They also stated that long term pot smokers damaged there lungs to a point that even when they stopped smoking there lung never healed. The have been working on this study for like 20 years now. There is also talks of banning it there.

I saw this study on pbs about two years ago and then logged into the database that all the Schools and Hospitals send there findings to for storage and found it. They studied a lot of people for many years. They are working on connecting it to cancer because there was a good percentage of users who did end up with lung cancer and they were not tobacco users.

But hell and smoke long term in your lungs can cause cancer. There is documented cases from people who never smoked but worked very odd jobs and got it. I remember one was a bbq pit man. He was around a wood fire all day for many years and he ended up with lung cancer.
They never learn

Albany, NY

#61 Jan 29, 2010
John wrote:
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They have proved it burns the hell out of your lungs worse than cloves cigs. There is study done by University in Amsterdam. They also stated that long term pot smokers damaged there lungs to a point that even when they stopped smoking there lung never healed. The have been working on this study for like 20 years now. There is also talks of banning it there.
I saw this study on pbs about two years ago and then logged into the database that all the Schools and Hospitals send there findings to for storage and found it. They studied a lot of people for many years. They are working on connecting it to cancer because there was a good percentage of users who did end up with lung cancer and they were not tobacco users.
But hell and smoke long term in your lungs can cause cancer. There is documented cases from people who never smoked but worked very odd jobs and got it. I remember one was a bbq pit man. He was around a wood fire all day for many years and he ended up with lung cancer.
You can get cancer from fake sugar.
You can get cancer from car exhaust.
You can get cancer from eating too much Corn Starch.
You can get cancer from using a cell phone.
You can get cancer from working in a radiology lab.
You can get cancer from a thermonuclear detonation.
You can get cancer from smoking.
You can get cancer from anything.

You can also get E-coli from eating meat processed in our own country.
You can also get E-coli from eating peanut butter produced in our own country.
You can get sick from over eating.
You can cause a car wreck from using a cell phone.
You can die walking across the street.
You can die flying in an airplane.

See, if we ban everything based on the fears of what might happen we might as well all just never get out of bed. The bottom line is you are not protecting anyone from themselves by having prohibition in place. You are not protecting the children, you are not protecting the stupid you are not protecting the world. You are in effect creating a black market where there is an unregulated, unlicensed, untaxed and unsafe environment for people to use.

People are going to use regardless of the laws. People will use regardless of the punishment. Prohibition has done NOTHING to stop the usage increases over the years, in fact the usage has increased in almost every single scenario of a substance that has been banned. Again, as I have told you before but you refuse to do it for whatever reason look up actual statistics in places like Amsterdam, Spain and Portugal on how their usage has decreased. Also for whoever posted that NIDA study, there was an announcement made yesterday by NIDA that admits they DO NOT study, or publish studies that prove Cannabis has medicinal, or personal benefits to the user. They admit they try to hide those studies to "protect" the populace. Well, F' them, and F' anyone who tries to "protect" me from myself. I have lived 34 years and am just fine. I can decide as an adult who pays taxes what I put in my body and when. No law, or politician will stop it. Maybe instead of taking away other peoples rights, you should focus on protecting the little ones you have left.

“Life Sucks”

Since: Jan 10

Petry Dish

#62 Jan 30, 2010
I have major back issues from breaking it in a car accident. I will be on pain meds for the rest of my life. I tried some medical but didn't care for it. I spent days researching it because I rather smoke a little some than popping a oxy. Sad thing is the internet if filled with the same garbage over and over with number 50 font 420 med use blah blah blah.
So I take it your an Oxy, addict.well LOOZER I have had several spinal surgerys just to sit up and take a SHIate.and I wont take any meds other than 420 Weed Pot Cannabis Mary jane dope If I would have taken the drugs the Doctors prescribed me I would be in rehab,dude Dont you Throw your stupid Azz opinion around unless you can be without Judgement.I agree alot of the people getting a licenese are in Fcat LOOZERS but people like me stay in the shadows and only reap the reward of a day without Pain and the ability to eat proper meals.The County is without any Brains all the $$ they are alowing to be earned without any tax structure or accountability is a-trocious, and me having to travel outta the county to get my medicine is Phuked up,and the tax money the county I use gets adds up.say yes to a place for me to get my medicine here in Butte county stop the stupid Lack of forsight we need for our future,get in the now .

“Life Sucks”

Since: Jan 10

Petry Dish

#63 Jan 30, 2010
JOHN ^
John

Chico, CA

#64 Jan 30, 2010
YesIamThePlague wrote:
I have major back issues from breaking it in a car accident. I will be on pain meds for the rest of my life. I tried some medical but didn't care for it. I spent days researching it because I rather smoke a little some than popping a oxy. Sad thing is the internet if filled with the same garbage over and over with number 50 font 420 med use blah blah blah.
So I take it your an Oxy, addict.well LOOZER I have had several spinal surgerys just to sit up and take a SHIate.and I wont take any meds other than 420 Weed Pot Cannabis Mary jane dope If I would have taken the drugs the Doctors prescribed me I would be in rehab,dude Dont you Throw your stupid **** opinion around unless you can be without Judgement.I agree alot of the people getting a licenese are in Fcat LOOZERS but people like me stay in the shadows and only reap the reward of a day without Pain and the ability to eat proper meals.The County is without any Brains all the $$ they are alowing to be earned without any tax structure or accountability is a-trocious, and me having to travel outta the county to get my medicine is Phuked up,and the tax money the county I use gets adds up.say yes to a place for me to get my medicine here in Butte county stop the stupid Lack of forsight we need for our future,get in the now .
what a clown.. You need to go back and read more. I am not against 215 and I voted for it. Your so ripped you can't even read or type. As for a Oxy addict no. I made that a point about me trying medical first. I didn't care for it.

What I am against is people like Joel or whatever his name was. He is a fruit cake just bleeding off the system. He tries to spew his 420 crap and all he is about is making money. But thats ok because he is in Jail now. If you want to go follow his lead then hell its your life so go have fun with it. I am also against most of these operations that are not there for people in need and are there for money. I am not saying all of them but there is a damn huge chunk. I don't give a rats ass about taxes because thats more money out of the pockets of people who have to many medical bills as it is. I do want the state to clean up the law on them and also limit the profit they make.

So keep spewing you pointless rant if you want. Your three weeks late to the party and your clearly unable to read.
Limp Biscopotti

United States

#65 Jan 30, 2010
It cracks me up how most dopers can't admit that pot is a freaking dirty habit.

John seems to be the only level headed viewpoint.

Few of us care about your dumb dope. But guys like Joel the fruitcake tick me off when they tell my third grader that pot is medicine. Pot is pot. Live with it.

Joel has cancer. He wanted a free pass to prison so the taxpayers can foot his medical bills. He will be the face of med weed FOREVER.
They never learn

Albany, NY

#66 Jan 30, 2010
Limp Biscopotti wrote:
It cracks me up how most dopers can't admit that pot is a freaking dirty habit.
John seems to be the only level headed viewpoint.
Few of us care about your dumb dope. But guys like Joel the fruitcake tick me off when they tell my third grader that pot is medicine. Pot is pot. Live with it.
Joel has cancer. He wanted a free pass to prison so the taxpayers can foot his medical bills. He will be the face of med weed FOREVER.
ANY substance "abused" by addicts is a "dirty" habit. Alcohol, Food, Cannabis, smoking, or pharmaceutical drugs. Cannabis DOES have Medicinal Benefits, just because you choose to ignore that fact or only look at the people who "abuse it" doesn't make it not true.

Joel was a cancer to the movement because he decided to take his medicine and use it as currency to try and make a buck. The same way that anyone who fakes a back injury, gets a prescription of Oxy, Vic, or Morphine and then sells it for a profit. The only true difference between the different narcotics is one is natural one isn't. One isn't covered in a stigma from close minded sheeple who don't realize they are being lied to.

We can go over the history of Cannabis. From the usages as a medicine, to the yellow journalism and Anslinger days, DuPont funding the lies to current days where it is NOW LEGAL for companies to BUY services of paid politicians. But what is the point? You don't care because you aren't affected by it. You are slowly losing your rights day by day, and as long as they add a little bit of scare to the story you guys gobble it up, suck it down and watch as you flush what little bit of the constitution is left.

But instead of being one of those people who would laugh at you, and say I told you so when and if you ever have to make the choice between 8 different kinds of Opiate based pain killers and cures for the pain killer side effects or a plant that is natural and when used in moderation works, I will give you some of my medicine and just hope that not only your mind, but your heart opens up. But we both know that won't happen, I don't think you are bright enough to see past the bs.
Darwin

United States

#67 Jan 30, 2010
Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.

There is not a single study in the world that proves pot is good for you in any measurable way.

Marijuana Kills Brain Cells. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity

The only studies for extracts from hemp are not related to pot or thc.
Darwin

United States

#68 Jan 30, 2010
Eventually all pot smokers become the spitting image of Joel spazo
Either they find their personal cure for pot or they simply spend the rest of their lives trying to get high.

Sadly some of them never grow out of the infantile state the beginner stoner enters his or or 'high' stage. Many simply graduate to the use of meth or other harsh drugs.
Flynn

Chico, CA

#69 Jan 30, 2010
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o!

Not the pot dispensaries!!!

Where will I get my medicine?
John

Chico, CA

#71 Jan 30, 2010
Limp Biscopotti wrote:
It cracks me up how most dopers can't admit that pot is a freaking dirty habit.
John seems to be the only level headed viewpoint.
Few of us care about your dumb dope. But guys like Joel the fruitcake tick me off when they tell my third grader that pot is medicine. Pot is pot. Live with it.
Joel has cancer. He wanted a free pass to prison so the taxpayers can foot his medical bills. He will be the face of med weed FOREVER.
Yes sadly there is to many out there who just don't get it. The funny thing is people don't care if other smoke it for real pain relief. But they still have to push there BS on how healthy it is because its a plant. Coke and Smack come from plants too lol but there no where close to being healthy.
They never learn

Albany, NY

#72 Jan 30, 2010
Darwin wrote:
Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.
There is not a single study in the world that proves pot is good for you in any measurable way.
Marijuana Kills Brain Cells. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity
The only studies for extracts from hemp are not related to pot or thc.
Sorry but you are wrong. Cannabis has shown NO LONG TERM BRAIN DAMAGE. There was no recorded brain damage in the first study done that was because of Cannabis. This is the problem, people like you hear an off the cuff story and repeat it over ad naseum.

The real story is that when the government commissioned the report the scientist who was in charge incorrectly administered Cannabis to monkeys. You see the problem wasn't that he gave them it, it was that he would stick 50ish joints worth of high grade cannabis inside of a canister, then put a gas mask on the monkeys face and then shove all that smoke down their throat until the smoke was gone.

Now I imagine you aren't very bright considering how easy you are led along by false stories, but you can at least see why this makes ANY reports, good or bad toward the use of cannabis and brain cell loss give false positives? You guessed it!! What does choking someone, anything with smoke do? Causes asphyxiation. What does Asphyxiation do? Causes brain cell loss.

The truth is, in the journal of clinical investigation and journal of medical science both have articles from actual studies both from our country and from the Danish that have shown that although there is some (important part here) minor NON PERMANENT memory loss there is 0 brain cell loss. As a matter of fact it has shown to stimulate brain cell production. Rats with Brain cancer given cannabis were shown to have an ever decreasing amount of cancerous cells in the brain also. Look into the studies done by UC Berkley, UCLA and the Danish.

I would also like to note, THC is not the main "medicinal" ingredient in Cannabis. CBD, and CBN's are. All 3 combined give you a different combination of benefits.

So in the end, not only are you misinformed you are one of those "sheeple" I mentioned in my earlier post. I am not saying Cannabis is good for everyone. I am not saying Cannabis should be smoked. It can be eaten, it can be vaporized, it can be made into a topical ointment and administered to burns directly on the skin. It can also be reduced and converted to a mist that you spray on the infected area, or in your mouth.

Bottom line is, grow up. Start researching it on your own and stop using NIDA as your main source of information. They already admitted they will not allow funding to ANY studies that prove Cannabis has benefits to the human race. Think to yourself why the sole organization in charge of testing substances should not stifle the studies of any product that may benefit us.

At the end of the day, do you hate Cannabis because its a "drug"? If so then you must hate every other single pain killer on the market since they are all opiates which have more side effects and at the same time are addictive. Lets be honest though with ourselves, you aren't interested in protecting people, helping them, or even curing them. You are not worried about anything but your false moral high ground.
They never learn

Albany, NY

#73 Jan 30, 2010
John, You can have the last word because after reading your posts I realize nothing will change your mind because you are ridiculous. Not ONE study I talked about and asked you to actually read was from high times. Ahhhh and then you bust out the "Its a gateway drug!!" OMG so is milk! I drank milk when I was young, then I started drinking alcohol when I was in high school.. omg milk is such a hard core gateway.
The bottom line is, you are wrong. Look up the Schaffer report.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/s...
Commissioned by Nixon in 47, when proven that Prohibition was the WRONG way to handle the Cannabis problem and that the lies brought forth by Harry Anslinger and DuPont following the yellow journalism push were false. It goes on to comment how it was safer then alcohol and tobacco.
The DEA Judge, Mary Bittner admitted that letting NIDA the sole group responsible for Stifling all positive Cannabis studies, and denying all new applications for study was wrong and directed them to stop. Unfortunately the Bush appointed DEA Admin was named the Director and decided that Mary's ruling would not be carried out.
But lets ignore all the lies, on both sides. Lets disregard Cannabis. Let's ask a question and have you answer. Don't give me your typical BS response about "BUT PEOPLE ABUSE IT!@#!@#" Because people abuse everything.
If a substance has a side effect of abuse, but has shown to have medicinal benefits should people be allowed to use it under a doctors recommendation?
If a substance has a side effect of euphoria but has shown to stop pain, should a user in pain be able to use it?
If a substance has the chance to be abused should we stop the availability to those who don't abuse it?
My question is, if you answered yes to any of this then why when you exchange the word "substance" with Cannabis do the rules change? If you answered no, then why do you take Opiate (OPIUM, read about it) based drugs for your injury?
My problem isn't that people have different views, it is that most people here like you are hypocrites. I don't see you championing the cause against Alcohol, Tobacco, Pharmaceutical drugs or opium. I don't see you ever in these posts speak out about how dangerous house hold cleaners are when people sniff them... I just see a guy who has a personal vendetta against a plant that "could" very much benefit a lot of people in this world and is too scared to admit that he might be wrong.
They never learn

Albany, NY

#74 Jan 30, 2010
John wrote:
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Yes sadly there is to many out there who just don't get it. The funny thing is people don't care if other smoke it for real pain relief. But they still have to push there BS on how healthy it is because its a plant. Coke and Smack come from plants too lol but there no where close to being healthy.
Coke and smack both in their natural form are healthy. They aren't "good" for you, but they aren't "Bad" for you either. It isn't until man gets involved and processes those "plants" into the substances that it starts to get its negative properties.

And you are right. I don't care if people smoke it for pain or not. I don't care WHAT people do on their own time, in their own house with their own bodies. I am not such a nosey ninny that I have to bother myself with what others do unless they are hurting people.

I am more worried about giving people back their rights instead of taking them away because you and a few close minded old timers still have Nixon's fear shoved down your throat. I think for myself, I research the topics I talk about, I don't just hear some random story about how Cannabis kills and then regurgitate it over and over. You REFUSE to do any actual reading on the subject and provide real arguments, if you had I would know since you wouldn't be posting the BS about Cannabis causing long term brain damage, killing brain cells and being a gateway drug. Every single one of those has been debunked by credited, government funded groups.
Big Jim Scott

West Tehama County, CA

#75 Feb 7, 2010
A lot of good info here.
I am one of those "Old Timers" and I am here to say that before the collectives came into play, Marijuana did act as a gateway drug.

It wasn't the drug itself, it was going to the dope man to score. He always had something else going on. Before I knew it I was taking a few hits of crank....then some seconals...then came the blow.

The point being with "legal" dispenceries people will not be exposed to the other illegal drugs.(Good thing)
Theory of Reality

AOL

#76 Feb 13, 2010
Darwin wrote:
Eventually all pot smokers become the spitting image of Joel spazo
Either they find their personal cure for pot or they simply spend the rest of their lives trying to get high.
Sadly some of them never grow out of the infantile state the beginner stoner enters his or or 'high' stage. Many simply graduate to the use of meth or other harsh drugs.
That old fabrication that pot is a gateway drug is just that BS. It never was for me nor anyone I knew! Most started with cigarettes. Keep beliving the old myths. Some of these so called stoners are very industrist,hard working, and furthermore have more reasoned logic than the "posts" I read from the opposition!Mind your own business,and stay out of mine an others who have "rights" also !
Cannaman

Lodi, CA

#83 Jul 22, 2010
Joel Castle is the best thing since sliced bread.
Joel Castle

Butte City, CA

#86 Apr 19, 2012
Well I am glad you all are still here because I am back. I would like to apologize for any vulgar language. I still have the same verve but, now the open dialogue is all I am after. I have that with the city council but, I do not believe Butte County Supervisors will come to the table or, the district attorney. The battle must be won in courts. I would like any of my naysayers to make themselves known & come to the open dialogue, I should think you would want it more than me. I do not have any kids running around that could be shot from gang violence, robberies, etc.

“Yes,I am a MMJ Patient.”

Since: Feb 11

Paradise

#89 Apr 23, 2012
wow! sure would be nice,ef ya wood think of a earlier time,as some of us interested ride busses.BTW...eye 4 an eye,tooth 4 a tooth,makes u both blind and toothless!

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