bystander

United States

#25 Jan 1, 2013
Bubba wrote:
Bills thing is he says he wants to keep taxes down , so fight the rebuilding of the bridges , don't find a way to lower the health care cost , in 1995 the town paid $ 27,000 a year for health care for the part time people at the town hall , this year its $ 250,000 for the year , most places don't give benifits to part time people and even the full time employees pay part of their health ins., so I see where we can save money , but polititions will not cut their own benifits ...
First of all health insurance goes up an average of 14% per year, so it doesn't do any good to worry about that part of it. I do agree that part timer should have to pay their way though, and simply eliminate it for planning board and town board members- that will help get rid of some of the freeloading.
Bubba

Pulaski, NY

#26 Jan 1, 2013
bystander wrote:
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First of all health insurance goes up an average of 14% per year, so it doesn't do any good to worry about that part of it. I do agree that part timer should have to pay their way though, and simply eliminate it for planning board and town board members- that will help get rid of some of the freeloading.
it was said at a board meeting by the insurance man that the town insures 14 people , that comes out to almost $ 18,000 each a year for health ins., thats a good perk for part time people , and if you work for the town long enough you get it for life ...
Dissatisfied

Pulaski, NY

#27 Jan 1, 2013
Bubba wrote:
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it was aid at a board meeting by the insurance man that the town insures 14 people , that comes out to almost $ 18,000 each a year for health ins., thats a good perk for part time people , and if you work for the town long enough you get it for life ...
If you attened the board meetings you would know that they passed a resolution to end life time ins. for retires from then on.
Bubba

Johnstown, NY

#28 Jan 1, 2013
I missed that , well its a start , but its still too much money to spend for ins.
part timers

Utica, NY

#29 Jan 1, 2013
Any part time positions like deputy supervisor, town board member etc should have to pay for their health insurance if they want it! Full time employees deserve insurance, but with conditions! Parker, your right on about Bill H and his side kick! Personal gain is what they're both all about! The good old boy's club, but they both have to sleep with the lights on because of their dirty pasts! It must really suck to have screwed so many people over that you have to live a life of paranoia! Someone said another election, I have news neither Bill or John will win if they run!! Bill Gardner needs to go too! Must be nice to have a town pickup for personal use all the time!!
time

Watertown, NY

#30 Jan 2, 2013
It is refreshing to read a post from someone who has seen through this set up and old boys club connection we have had going in town for some time now.
We must choose our representatives with more knowledge of who they are, what they believe in, and if they have the courage to put first the care and concerns of the people they are duty bound to represent. Then, and only then, can change take place in our local governing officials.
u say what

Johnstown, NY

#31 Jan 2, 2013
Bubba wrote:
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it was said at a board meeting by the insurance man that the town insures 14 people , that comes out to almost $ 18,000 each a year for health ins., thats a good perk for part time people , and if you work for the town long enough you get it for life ...
what kind of insurance do we give them if its 18000.00 apiece...
that should be looked at. I can see in this day and age partial premium payment but not dental,eye,long term day care and whatever else the policy says for 18 thousand. all those other perks that use to exist re insurance after retirement is archaic...back when we didnt pay them a good salary.
alternate

Watertown, NY

#32 Jan 2, 2013
The way to handle excessive benefits for town employees is to not reappoint them year after year;. While an employee may not have to pay 1/2 of their insurance when working for the town, they gladly pay it when they no longer work for the town. Go figure.
No where can they get full time insurances for a temporary part time job anywhere else
FoPo resident

Gloversville, NY

#34 Jan 3, 2013
"I understand the deputy only acts in the absence, or incapacity of the Super. Has our supervisor stepped down? If so Isley can act, but if Bill has not stepped down, Isley should NOT be involved in this"

This is correct according to state law but not in Forestport. Isley is included in special meetings,executive sessions and just about everything that goes on. Bill shares things with him he does not even tell the Town Board members. Rumor has it Bill has heart surgery set for later this month. At a time like that Isley is taking over the roll of supervisor but he still does not have a vote on any matters.

Also referring to the cost of health insurance, where do you work part-time and get benefits? No Place! Check and see who is covered...Isley, dog warden,town attorney,codes officer (I thought he also worked for Remsen School) etc.
Full time workers - yes. Part time workers - no

The town cannot afford it!
The time has come

Utica, NY

#36 Jan 3, 2013
What needs to be done to have Bill removed? It seems pretty clear he is failing the tax payers as supervisor! He needs to go and his pocket pet right along with him! What about a special election? In my opinion and a few others he's nothing more than a senile old man who is mentally failing that belongs in a nursing home! What can we tax payers do to get rid of him and his deputy?
Bubba

Gloversville, NY

#37 Jan 4, 2013
find someone to start a petition , if nothing else to take to a board meeting , if it has to go the legal route it should include his loss of benifits , retirement and health , he is breaking state law and the code of ethics of his office ...
Hurrah if true

Watertown, NY

#39 Jan 4, 2013
The above post would be welcomed with joy, but I question the manner in which it was posted. Normally Mr. Snead uses his real name as n/n for the site.
If this post is really not bogus....I welcome his participation. Forestport would be in good hands.
Our supervisor has to be in real serious trouble, and I feel also that somehow, sometime, we will find that he had committed the community to the contractors a long time ago. Maybe, maybe not, but what would be the purpose for his hostility and applying what energy he has left in his life, to destroying the bridges?
Can we petition the board to call for an investigation in this whole deal? We don't want to delay the progress already made through the efforts of the group working with Mr. Snead, but one way or the other, there should be a serious "outside" investigation done.
lifer

Utica, NY

#41 Jan 4, 2013
part timers wrote:
Any part time positions like deputy supervisor, town board member etc should have to pay for their health insurance if they want it! Full time employees deserve insurance, but with conditions! Parker, your right on about Bill H and his side kick! Personal gain is what they're both all about! The good old boy's club, but they both have to sleep with the lights on because of their dirty pasts! It must really suck to have screwed so many people over that you have to live a life of paranoia! Someone said another election, I have news neither Bill or John will win if they run!! Bill Gardner needs to go too! Must be nice to have a town pickup for personal use all the time!!
years ago his little buddy got into some serious trouble with the law and it got swept under the carpet, GUESS WHO THE SHERRIFF WAS the good ole boy himself. nothing ever heard about it
part timers

Utica, NY

#42 Jan 4, 2013
lifer wrote:
<quoted text>years ago his little buddy got into some serious trouble with the law and it got swept under the carpet, GUESS WHO THE SHERRIFF WAS the good ole boy himself. nothing ever heard about it
I am well aware of the Bear Creek train station incident! I know about someones drug use and serving minors alcohol as well! One of Bills favorite sayings was " drink fast and drive slow"! Their both dirty as dirty gets and some of us know all about both of the above the law creeps! No worries, enough is enough and its time to speak out!!
bubbles

Watertown, NY

#43 Jan 4, 2013
Someone needs to check into that insurance figure. It seems astronomical. What are the conditions for qualifying for health insurances in our community?
Part/time, Temporary, Full Time...lets get a handle on this and then ask questions. We should be more concerned with the town's liability coverage for accidents, etc. than paying full benefits to part time people, and that insurance should have gone out to bid also.
Has anyone checked with other communities similar to the size of our town to see what their budget is like? Especially the cost and types of insurances per employee.
Comparisons should have been documented at budget time, in the event someone cared enough to look into these items for the purpose of economical budgeting. Were the insurances put out to bid or what was the method used for the selection of the company chosen? We should form a taxpayers committee to review these things.
Hurrah

Watertown, NY

#44 Jan 4, 2013
You go for it Parker. You will have a great deal of support because we have slowly begun to feel comfortable with your efforts for this community. You have already proven your ability to lead and to be fair and open and above board. Sparking qualifications of yours that have already been used to the advantage of the community. I wish you success in this venture and will do our share to help you achieve your goal.
Bob

Bakers Mills, NY

#45 Jan 4, 2013
bubbles wrote:
Someone needs to check into that insurance figure. It seems astronomical. What are the conditions for qualifying for health insurances in our community?
Part/time, Temporary, Full Time...lets get a handle on this and then ask questions. We should be more concerned with the town's liability coverage for accidents, etc. than paying full benefits to part time people, and that insurance should have gone out to bid also.
Has anyone checked with other communities similar to the size of our town to see what their budget is like? Especially the cost and types of insurances per employee.
Comparisons should have been documented at budget time, in the event someone cared enough to look into these items for the purpose of economical budgeting. Were the insurances put out to bid or what was the method used for the selection of the company chosen? We should form a taxpayers committee to review these things.
look at the town budget , you can get a copy at the town hall , its not a secret ...
TOM

Pulaski, NY

#46 Jan 4, 2013
Bob wrote:
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look at the town budget , you can get a copy at the town hall , its not a secret ...
It's not a secret, but have to pay .25 a page if you want a copy.
Bob

Johnstown, NY

#47 Jan 5, 2013
I think you can look at it there ....
look at it

Rome, NY

#48 May 19, 2013
Take a look at the budget for yourself. It is not difficult to do,and the Town Clerk is very cooperative in helping any taxpayer who may be interested in where their tax dollars go.
I have watched, over time, how the taxpayers have gotten accurate information needed and were able to field questions with knowledge, and not based on scuttlebut.
Take the time to see for yourself, then you won't become an innocent PAWN at the hands of others with an agenda.

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