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Mad taxpayer

Utica, NY

#1 May 14, 2013
Mr Gardner, may I use the town loader for a ride home to lunch like Mr Phendler did? I promise to leave it running the entire time to burn as much fuel on the taxpayers dollar just like Mr Phendler did! IS THAT NOT CONSIDERED BY LAW PERSONAL USE MR GARDNER? WHO IS IN TROUBLE, YOU OR THE EMPLOYEE?
gotcha

Blossvale, NY

#2 May 14, 2013
Both are in trouble. Did the user of the loader not know what he was doing also?
Both should be fired!!!!!
This is not the first time, and Mad Taxpayer, follow this up, you will find more..........
The old boys club is in tact and operating efficiently I see.
You all have to know these people are laughing all the way to the bank at the taxpayers expense don't you? NO ONE WILL DO A DAMN THING!!
Mad taxpayer

Utica, NY

#3 May 14, 2013
I wonder what the proper way to legally approach this situation is? I'm sure contacting either Bill H or Bill G will be a waste of time! Perhaps a letter to the town board? Any suggestions?
get outta town

Turin, NY

#5 May 15, 2013
You don't really think you will get answers from anyone "in" the LOOP here in town do you?
That is why, unless you go to an outside source, nothing changes.
Would the Town happen to have established it's own rule of ethics?
But then again, everyone knew this was wrong.......... I would say the parties concerned were pretty brazen, or protected, and not concerned about anyone in our town gov't. slapping their hands.

Wouldn't it be interesting to file a complaint locally for the record, and then see who does or doesn't follow through.
Amazing

New York, NY

#6 May 15, 2013
get outta town wrote:
You don't really think you will get answers from anyone "in" the LOOP here in town do you?
That is why, unless you go to an outside source, nothing changes.
Would the Town happen to have established it's own rule of ethics?
But then again, everyone knew this was wrong.......... I would say the parties concerned were pretty brazen, or protected, and not concerned about anyone in our town gov't. slapping their hands.
Wouldn't it be interesting to file a complaint locally for the record, and then see who does or doesn't follow through.
So what are you waiting for ?
Mad taxpayer

Utica, NY

#7 May 15, 2013
Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>So what are you waiting for ?
Not waiting for anything MY FRIEND! Some of us have a spine and could care less about repercussions! A formal letter will go where it needs to MY FRIEND!
animal

Turin, NY

#8 May 15, 2013
Is this the same AMAZING poster who is always defending the MINK/RECREATION problem?
If so, then this too is REALLY amazing.
Amazing

New York, NY

#9 May 15, 2013
Yes, its the same Amazing my friends....I see it's the same type of whining going on here with none of the whiners actually doing anything other than whining....Yes these people are probably abusing there position's, but instead of coming on here and telling other people to do things about it or saying what if we did this or that.... JUST GET OFF YOU FAT BUTTS AND DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!
Amazing

New York, NY

#10 May 15, 2013
As you all noticed , once you stopped your whinning about the skinning I stopped breaking your ball about it....
jerkyourknee

Utica, NY

#11 May 15, 2013
Amazing wrote:
As you all noticed , once you stopped your whinning about the skinning I stopped breaking your ball about it....
Don't flatter yourself river rat! When some are quiet is when you should worry! Do you honestly think some of us don't know who the real coward behind the name amazing is?? You wouldn't say shit to my face if you had a mouth full!!
Amazing

New York, NY

#12 May 15, 2013
jerkyourknee wrote:
<quoted text>Don't flatter yourself river rat! When some are quiet is when you should worry! Do you honestly think some of us don't know who the real coward behind the name amazing is?? You wouldn't say shit to my face if you had a mouth full!!
No need to flatter myself my friend, you just did it for me :-)
what

Turin, NY

#13 May 15, 2013
I understand several people DID try to do something about the MINK STINK! That action was well covered by certain townfolk.
Got no place. Still doesn't make the way this was done, nor the reason for doing it agreeable to all.
Just should not happen again, and the person doing it should NOT......hear me? SHOULD NOT be working the summer Rec. program again this year to do some other hair brained thing..........
Bubba

Northville, NY

#14 May 15, 2013
what wrote:
I understand several people DID try to do something about the MINK STINK! That action was well covered by certain townfolk.
Got no place. Still doesn't make the way this was done, nor the reason for doing it agreeable to all.
Just should not happen again, and the person doing it should NOT......hear me? SHOULD NOT be working the summer Rec. program again this year to do some other hair brained thing..........
thats what happens when you hire stupid little kids to run the program ....
Amazing

Highland, MI

#15 May 15, 2013
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>
thats what happens when you hire stupid little kids to run the program ....
Very well said Bub a, you get what you pay for!!!!
friend

New Hartford, NY

#16 May 16, 2013
it is not stupid kids that are in charge of the recreation program ,it is the town that runs the program . There is a head of recreation, Ms. Skidmore.Back to the topic.Why would a town employee be driving home for lunch with a town loader, how far, and how do you know?Is equipment insured for such activity?
Amazing

Highland, MI

#17 May 16, 2013
I'd have to see some kinda proof, before just believing some poster on here that it really did happen!!!! A lot of people on here just wanna cause problems for someone they don't like and if it did happen, there could be a good reason.
Mad taxpayer

Utica, NY

#18 May 16, 2013
We eye witnessed the loader drive down Bear Creek Rd to his home and pull up by his house with flashers going at about 11:45 am. The loader left the home after sitting there running at around 12:55 and went back up the road to Rte 28. In all honesty that machine went approx 3/4 mile out of it's way so Mr Phendler could go home for lunch! Do the other town employees get special treatment like that? I don't think they do! Does Mr Gardner approve of such actions or does he not have the balls to say anything to Mr Phendler?? People around the area also witnessed the occasion! It's kind of hard to miss that loader so one would only assume Mr Phendler certainly wasn't sneaking, he must have believed what he was doing was okay with Mr Gardner!
truth

Blossvale, NY

#19 May 16, 2013
Well, wait to see if Mr. Pfendler still has a job. That should be proof enough of the good old boys club.
Election time is coming, and anyone up for election this go-round, should be judged on their reactions to these things that SOMEONE must be allowing to happen!! Buck stops with the Supervisor. Otherwise, THIS TYPE OF THING WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. tHE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD COULD CHANGE THAT ACTION.
But, what the H>>>> let's just leave some of the employees who hold things over others heads, keep their jobs and retire on our share of their retirement that we, the taxpayers cough up for their "work" every payday
...... A few employees are not SELF SERVING and we know who they are. Thank goodness we have a few of them left.
REMEMBER THESE THINGS ON ELECTION DAY
Payback is a bitch.
Amazing

Astoria, NY

#20 May 16, 2013
Mad taxpayer wrote:
We eye witnessed the loader drive down Bear Creek Rd to his home and pull up by his house with flashers going at about 11:45 am. The loader left the home after sitting there running at around 12:55 and went back up the road to Rte 28. In all honesty that machine went approx 3/4 mile out of it's way so Mr Phendler could go home for lunch! Do the other town employees get special treatment like that? I don't think they do! Does Mr Gardner approve of such actions or does he not have the balls to say anything to Mr Phendler?? People around the area also witnessed the occasion! It's kind of hard to miss that loader so one would only assume Mr Phendler certainly wasn't sneaking, he must have believed what he was doing was okay with Mr Gardner!
gee, maybe to you it would make more sence to drive it twice the distance back to the barn and take his personal truck home...Sounds to me like someone with a grudge to hold.
WRONG

Blossvale, NY

#21 May 16, 2013
Idiots find excuses for whatever they wish.
It does not justify this activity. This was wrong.

The taxpayers don't need to be put in jeopardy by their actions, nor, because someone tries to excuse what they did.
Next thing, everyone employed by the taxpayers, will find a way to JUSTIFY ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO> This is how it begins..........
It takes some common sense to realize what could have happened at any time this employee had in their possession, town property, that was being used AT THE TIME THEY WERE ON LUNCH PERIOD and not covered with insurances because it was THEIR OFF DUTY LUNCH PERIOD..........

Amazing, I really think you should find another hobby, like volunteering your time for the enrichment and betterment of the community as a whole since you appear to have so much free time.

Personal grudge doesn't cut it. IT IS A TAXPAYERS RIGHT TO QUESTION..........since we pay the tab..........

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