woodgate summer recreation incident
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Utica, NY

#246 Jan 15, 2013
Amazing, are you a little tinker bell? Do you sleep with all the lights on because your scared of the dark? Maybe your friends will get you a pink teddy bear if you suck up a little more, key work suck! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Amazing

Boston, MA

#247 Jan 16, 2013
Question wrote:
Amazing, are you a little tinker bell? Do you sleep with all the lights on because your scared of the dark? Maybe your friends will get you a pink teddy bear if you suck up a little more, key work suck! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
aww, come on now your so hurt full..... but trying to change the subject doesn't change things..
I know

Springfield, NJ

#248 Jan 16, 2013
aaaa wrote:
Only reason why he is prolly sticking up for the whole thing, is because she's probably sleeping with him too.. Krista is already sleeping with a DEC officer who is old enough to be her father.. she claims its her uncle.. if its her uncle, why does she get all flirty and hand holding and kissy kissy with him in public resturants? She's only 17. If she's banging him, watch out, cause her parents will have you arrested next too for 3rd degree rape!!!
old enough to be her father?????? More like Grandfather!!!! Omg. It's sick. And so are the two of them!!!!!
I know

Springfield, NJ

#249 Jan 16, 2013
FRIEND wrote:
knives are not allowed as it says on the summer recreation form that had to be signed by the parents , what if a kid fell on a knife or cut himself ? secondly it is very possible kids could have been infected with parasites {fleas lice carry disease).The counselor fired may have been framed, he has had many,many people tell him they have heard the skinning was done by him . people have been told this by somebody{the town summer rec, officials?)He spoke to the WKTV news to try and fend off the defamation.It is very strange that the skinning happened on August 1st and nobody was fired for it ,then the next day the counselor that was fired, is accused of taking too long on a hike and fired,even though when they returned from the hike ,nobody said anything about the hike being too long or anything.A hike around nick's lake is a common activity done there every year .while on the hike some of the young kids {6yrsold?}spoke to the counselor about how upset they were about witnessing the gory mutilation. There have been laws broken by the town and they think they are going to get away with it . Don't let them.Kids should not have been subjected to this, and if the fired counselor has been framed, he should take action as well.Why did they go through the trouble of framing him?I guess Bill H and Kwasniewski are good friends with the Grabauskus family that krista Seelman is a part of, so they are out to keep charges from being filed and covering it up.Nice people huh? they run our town.....
this whole thing has nothing to do with the Grabauskas family!!!! It's the Seelman family! Krista Seelman does not associate with the Grabauskas'
time tells all

New Hartford, NY

#250 Jan 17, 2013
Was it Krista Seellman who did the skinning of the mink? This is the first I have heard that.........
Why wasn't that said before, and why was it made to look like the counselor who was fired was to blame.
Something smells here, and it must be the skinner of the MINK?? Another Hasenauer manipulation where there was no accountability???
parent

Utica, NY

#251 Jan 17, 2013
time tells all wrote:
Was it Krista Seellman who did the skinning of the mink? This is the first I have heard that.........
Why wasn't that said before, and why was it made to look like the counselor who was fired was to blame.
Something smells here, and it must be the skinner of the MINK?? Another Hasenauer manipulation where there was no accountability???
It was Krista that did the skinning! It was The man who picks up road kill for DEC or the state that pulled strings along with Bill H and John I to wash it all under the carpet with DEC! This is the man referred to as her boy friend! The Sheriffs department had stated that there were charges of endangerment that could have been filed, but the DEC officer stated he could care less about that and what they said! He did state there were also other things that could be charged, but he needed to investigate and talk to the other parents. He never talked to the other parents and stated his Lieutenant took an interest and there were no charges going to be filed! With asking many friends in law enforcement of their opinion, something stinks all right and charges should have been filed! We pulled our child out of the program because John Isley was dishing out orders and they were hiding the children in a dark basement watching movies to avoid the media and keep them from hearing conversations between Isley and counselors! If we wanted our child watching movies, we would have just said stay home! Our child was also a witness to the hike that took place that no one had an issue with until the young man stood up against the skinning! Like the bridges Bill H and his side kick think they can do what ever they want to and we the people are going to just sit back and let them, well their wrong! You know what the law refused to act didn't they because of a few above the law people pulling favors. You know what we all say to that -- deal with the KARMA you bunch of jerks! Amazing before you spew your whineass bullshit, we hunt, fish and raise animals for food. We slaughter, dress, skin and cut up animals all the time. We do it properly with a skinning apron, gloves and splatter shield for our face because even farm raised animals can carry parasites! Anyone who lives the lifestyle knows the proper way to do things and what the repercussions can be if they choose to skip them! I've known many people to catch mange or lime disease because they either didn't take the proper precautions or thought they were tough woodsy people when in fact they were stupid fools and damn lucky it wasn't something worse like rabies! These people know nothing at all about proper safety procedures or just chose not to use them and not only endangered the children who were in the splatter field , but themselves as well! Some lesson they taught the kids!
Amazing

Boston, MA

#252 Jan 17, 2013
Whine, whine,whine!!!!
your such a POS

Utica, NY

#253 Jan 17, 2013
Amazing wrote:
Whine, whine,whine!!!!
So which rear end do you have your head stuck in? Your dedication to baby sitting this topic for Bill and John is the only thing amazing about you! Tinker Bell ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so true I bet!
Paul

Lake Luzerne, NY

#255 Jan 30, 2013
you know that not one person has brought this up at the town board meetings , if it is brought up it will be on the record , but I guess you all want to bitch on here , put up or shut up ....
Amazing

Hamden, CT

#256 Jan 30, 2013
your such a POS wrote:
<quoted text>So which rear end do you have your head stuck in? Your dedication to baby sitting this topic for Bill and John is the only thing amazing about you! Tinker Bell ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so true I bet!
I don't like Bill what so ever and I really don't know John, but I totally disagree with your wanting to hang a young employee that made a simple mistake ...I'm sure you made plenty of them growing up, just as we all have!!!
Rec

New Hartford, NY

#257 Jan 30, 2013
Maybe Krista made a mistake....she's a kid. The town endangered the children by not informing parents of the incident and taking proper measures to ensure the children's safety . there still may be kids unknowingly infested with parasites out there . Even deer have been reported to have rabies not so far away from here , so that could have been a possibility.Was the animal ever even tested? For the town to cover up the incident and go to the DEC and pull strings to not have charges pressed is just so wrong. Even though legal charges were not filed, just warnings .there may be civil charges still in process?There is so many backroom dirty deals going on with our town, the fire dept.,dog control,Summer rec. the bridges....It is awful.
true

Turin, NY

#258 Jan 30, 2013
Rec you are saying what we all have learned, one way or another. The upsetting thing is that while everyone knows it, nothing will be done for the very reasons you site in your post.
When will this network that has a strong hold on our everyday lives here, not become subject of investigation from outside sources? Who is afraid, and what are they afraid of? It is long overdue.
It is shameful to see the nation manipulations by politicians today, being copied and implemented here on a smaller scale, but never the less, the public does not have much say in anything anymore. That is proven in this town.
really now

Utica, NY

#259 Jan 30, 2013
Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>I don't like Bill what so ever and I really don't know John, but I totally disagree with your wanting to hang a young employee that made a simple mistake ...I'm sure you made plenty of them growing up, just as we all have!!!
Who's bright idea was it? Who was the one doing the skinning? If they didn't think they did anything wrong, why did the hid the kids in the basement watching movies? Why did the Oneida county Sheriff think charges should have been pressed, but DEC had taken over the case to eliminate any other law enforcement? Are you trying to say that because of age if someone breaks the law they should get a free pass? These people are dealing with children from 5 - 15 yrs of age and should have some kind of common knowledge about safety! Your a total asshole to think that anyone wants to hang Krista alone for her part in the situation, but the fact that she and her want to be pilot friend brag and thinks what they got away with was awesome makes her right there with the dumb ass that gave the okay! It's not over by a long shot because law enforcement didn't act! Do you honestly think some of the parents involved will forget what they pulled and got away with? Do you honestly think like some have mentioned country justice wont happen? I certainly hope to hell that know one is that stupid! It's not the what didn't happen it's what a chance they took with peoples children without permission! If you cant understand that then you have to be one of the most simple minded people talking on here. I agree with other posts after looking you really seam to babysit the post! What is your interest if not to defend Bill, John and the rest of the wrong doers?
Amazing

Hamden, CT

#260 Jan 30, 2013
Cry, cry, cry, She made a mistake, get over it! As for Bill & John, that's simple... Drag your fat ass to the polls and vote the idiots out! Maybe better yet, you could run against them and then we can drag your skeletons out of the closet for everyone to see???
what a POS

Utica, NY

#261 Jan 30, 2013
Your a pile of bullshit Amazing! Defend, defend, defend! You just keep sucking up to the back door crew! She made a mistake all right "understatement of the year" and she can pay the piper right along with the rest of them! Hurry up and defend them all now Amazing!
Amazing

Hamden, CT

#262 Jan 30, 2013
what a POS wrote:
Your a pile of bullshit Amazing! Defend, defend, defend! You just keep sucking up to the back door crew! She made a mistake all right "understatement of the year" and she can pay the piper right along with the rest of them! Hurry up and defend them all now Amazing!
aww, man your really hurting my feelings (NOT)!!!! But getting under your skin is the best part of all this...lol
notta so

Utica, NY

#264 Jan 30, 2013
Your just not getting it Amazing! No one that matters and you don't matter, cares what you think nor do you get under any ones skin as you think! Your little back door friends will probably be pointed out and labeled for what they did for years to come! Who knows maybe even some day Krista will be told sorry we cant hire you because---- lolololololololololololololol! Those employees made a mistake that will follow them forever! I agree it really sucks to be so young with such a nasty reputation, but you know what they say, if the shoe fits!
strange

Turin, NY

#265 Jan 30, 2013
So,what's the point? Doesn't look like a road kill grey squirrel to me.....
What are you attempting to do by posting these?
Amazing

Hamden, CT

#266 Jan 30, 2013
notta so wrote:
Your just not getting it Amazing! No one that matters and you don't matter, cares what you think nor do you get under any ones skin as you think! Your little back door friends will probably be pointed out and labeled for what they did for years to come! Who knows maybe even some day Krista will be told sorry we cant hire you because---- lolololololololololololololol! Those employees made a mistake that will follow them forever! I agree it really sucks to be so young with such a nasty reputation, but you know what they say, if the shoe fits!
Your somewhat mistaken, I'm not particularly friends with any of them although I know who they are( minus John) and YES obviously I do get under your skin...That's quite easy to see by all the childish name calling.
why is that

Turin, NY

#267 Jan 30, 2013
This matter should have been investigated. It still could be opened up. Perhaps with a change in leadership this situation can be discussed and proper action taken, even though time has passed, this was never addressed openly.

There should have been permission slips to cover this action by the recreation employee. There is no way to say this omission was not critical.

The school even gets permission slips because that is the way to handle this properly, but that was never addressed, and the supervisor's remark "they do it in school don't they" was even more enlightening of the fact that no one knew the safe, proper and legal way to handle this skinning, and most of all, the recreation program SKINNER.

This is a case of a tough but wrong way to explain this.
"I'M NOT WRONG........NO WAY...." after the fact reaction should be proven once and for all and that should either put an end to it, or opened up and legally investigated.

Why would the people involved, if they are correct in their judgment, not want this out in the open and settled, once and for all. If it were you, and you were right, wouldn't you want to push to have that proven???

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