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#42 Feb 10, 2013
Justajoe, have you considered the possibility that the posters who disagree with you on this subject are straight? I am. I simply disagree, and others do, too. Straight or gay, most people don't discuss their sexuality with children. I wouldn't want my kid's Scouting experience to be sexualized in EITHER direction. So should we simply shut down the Boy Scouts because we think adult leaders can't be trusted to leave their own sexual preferences out of Scouting? Gay men are interested in other gay men. Pedophiles and ephebophiles are interested in children and adolescents. You can't identify the "bad guys" as easily as you seem to think. They don't wear pink triangles. There is no substitute for being involved in your kid's activities, knowing his Boy Scout leader, his coaches and his friends, and having a trusting relationship with your son. Telling him he'll catch cooties from being around gay males isn't the answer. Teaching him to hate is in direct opposition to the Boy Scouts' aims. I would be VERY concerned if I heard my son or his father use the word "faggot" unless they were collecting firewood.
observer

Saranac Lake, NY

#43 Feb 10, 2013
Hmmm-----"Teaching him to hate is in direct opposition to the Boy Scouts' aims"

You seem to be judging the motives of Joe and others with a statement like that. Just because a person doesn't want to be involved with some person or some activity doesn't mean he hates. How do you know that Joe is teaching hate to his son? Perhaps he is showing love to his son in trying to protect him from issues he is too young to understand. You assume that he is teaching hate, but that is a very presumptuous and unfair assumption. Are you as backward as those whose beliefs you condemn? Seemingly liberal minded people pride themselves in their tolerance of others. As a conservative, I usually discover that they are just tolerant toward those who agree with them. Hence, they can be as bigoted as the bigotry they condemn. Is that your problem?
cant help

New York, NY

#45 Feb 10, 2013
Yea Harry cant help the way he was born alright! So dont pay much attn. to him hes all talk no action,but hes fun on here...Hey Harry you been up to walmart lately to drop a Deuce? You can wipe with snow,wait til Mon. its suppose to rain and you can wipe with the snow better, the packier the better!!!
justajoe

Ardsley, NY

#46 Feb 10, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
Justajoe, have you considered the possibility that the posters who disagree with you on this subject are straight? I am. I simply disagree, and others do, too. Straight or gay, most people don't discuss their sexuality with children. I wouldn't want my kid's Scouting experience to be sexualized in EITHER direction. So should we simply shut down the Boy Scouts because we think adult leaders can't be trusted to leave their own sexual preferences out of Scouting? Gay men are interested in other gay men. Pedophiles and ephebophiles are interested in children and adolescents. You can't identify the "bad guys" as easily as you seem to think. They don't wear pink triangles. There is no substitute for being involved in your kid's activities, knowing his Boy Scout leader, his coaches and his friends, and having a trusting relationship with your son. Telling him he'll catch cooties from being around gay males isn't the answer. Teaching him to hate is in direct opposition to the Boy Scouts' aims. I would be VERY concerned if I heard my son or his father use the word "faggot" unless they were collecting firewood.
I have considered the possibility those who dont agree with me are not gay.
Gay men are sons, brothers, uncles have freinds and all that. Therefor they have straight people sympathetic to their associated contraversies. So I dont get your point unless your name is "lucky" as well as "Hmmm".
You claim that I think I can identify gay mem on sight? Thats simply not true. I just dont want to win the lottery in my area to end up with some scout leader that acts like a clown (for lack of a better term) Im sure any young boy can pickup on the fact that they act differently.
At a young age I do not want to explain that to them.
Childerens freinds at school who are gay will not know or show for many years which will give time to the other young people to find who they are rather then tell them in kindergarden they can choose whatever you want.
Hell lets just tellem they can have an operation to change their gender, even if theyre a bad person whos gone to prison the taxpayers will hook you up.
A show of hands children?
Gimme a break.
Also I wouldnt tell my son he will catch gay cooties i just dont think I should have to answer why a man MAY act like a steriotypical gay man that he saw at a gathering of fellow scouts whos set of values doesnt include all peoples way of life thats why its a club or association thats the friggin point.
As far as using or teaching my son the word faggot I do not, however I will alert him to the presence of elite group of people in the world who believe they are better that you and twist your words to reiterate their false beliefs.
These my son are the douchebags!
Tolerance is a virtue

Raleigh, NC

#47 Feb 10, 2013
The Girls Scouts do not discriminate against homosexuals ---- but there is a counterpart to the Girls Scouts that does. The group American Heritage Girls is a faith based non-profit group. The group allows both Christian and non-Christians to join, although it seems very religious.

"Christian and non-Christian youth alike are bombarded daily as today’s culture attempts to rob them of moral absolutes. This lack of a moral barometer creates a tumultuous sea of confusion for today’s girls ...."

Maybe there should be the same type of counterpart for the Boy Scouts?

It's an option, I don't support the idea, but there are a couple of options out there.

An analogy comes to mind about the current standing of the Boy Scouts; it's like having two feuding friends and you're throwing a party. Many hosts would invite both and have the friends make their individual decisions as to whether to go or not. Other hosts would reluctantly only invite one of their friends. I think having to make this decision places an undue burden on the party planner who is trying to do something FUN but is now forced to make a decision which goes against the whole premise of throwing a party!

It will be very interesting to see how this is handled in the Boy Scouts.
Hmmm

United States

#48 Feb 10, 2013
I do feel sympathy for your kid. By the time he's 8 or 9, one or more of his friends will have explained Adam and Steve to him, with or without your knowledge and consent. Most kids get rudimentary sex information quite early. It's not always accurate, but kids talk about it. They often don't tell their parents everything they've picked up. So the notion of control over what he learns is pretty much a parental pipe dream.

I haven't called you any names, but you seem fond of sexual references when describing people who disagree with you.
observer

Saranac Lake, NY

#49 Feb 10, 2013
Tolerance is a virtue wrote:
The Girls Scouts do not discriminate against homosexuals ---- but there is a counterpart to the Girls Scouts that does. The group American Heritage Girls is a faith based non-profit group. The group allows both Christian and non-Christians to join, although it seems very religious.
"Christian and non-Christian youth alike are bombarded daily as today’s culture attempts to rob them of moral absolutes. This lack of a moral barometer creates a tumultuous sea of confusion for today’s girls ...."
Maybe there should be the same type of counterpart for the Boy Scouts?
It's an option, I don't support the idea, but there are a couple of options out there.
An analogy comes to mind about the current standing of the Boy Scouts; it's like having two feuding friends and you're throwing a party. Many hosts would invite both and have the friends make their individual decisions as to whether to go or not. Other hosts would reluctantly only invite one of their friends. I think having to make this decision places an undue burden on the party planner who is trying to do something FUN but is now forced to make a decision which goes against the whole premise of throwing a party!
It will be very interesting to see how this is handled in the Boy Scouts.
If homosexuals have a problem with the policies of the Boy Scouts they are free to start a group of their own. Why do homosexuals always want to force themselves upon others? As I travel the roadways, I see bumper stickers which declare the driver's "gay pride" or a rainbow symbol or something similar. I have seen stickers that actually declare the homosexuality of the car's driver. I have never seen a sticker that says "heterosexual pride" or declares that the driver is heterosexual. I sometimes visit many state university college campuses. I am always amazed by the number of rainbow stickers I see on the classroom doors of homosexual faculty menbers. Why do these situations exist? Are these people trying to "hook-up" with other homosexuals? Straight people aren't putting signs out there declaring their sexuality. If homosexuals are proud of what they are, then good for them! But by all means, leave the rest of us alone who believe such behavior is immoral and wrong. You cannot say or do anything that will change our minds. Wrong is wrong. It always has been and always will be. Feel free to call me a bigot if that is your desire. I have broad shoulders and have been called worse. But if any of you feel free to namecall, notice that I have not used derogatory words for homosexuals or homosexuality. So who is the bigot?
ohmy

Ithaca, NY

#50 Feb 10, 2013
justajoe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have considered the possibility those who dont agree with me are not gay.
Gay men are sons, brothers, uncles have freinds and all that. Therefor they have straight people sympathetic to their associated contraversies. So I dont get your point unless your name is "lucky" as well as "Hmmm".
You claim that I think I can identify gay mem on sight? Thats simply not true. I just dont want to win the lottery in my area to end up with some scout leader that acts like a clown (for lack of a better term) Im sure any young boy can pickup on the fact that they act differently.
At a young age I do not want to explain that to them.
Childerens freinds at school who are gay will not know or show for many years which will give time to the other young people to find who they are rather then tell them in kindergarden they can choose whatever you want.
Hell lets just tellem they can have an operation to change their gender, even if theyre a bad person whos gone to prison the taxpayers will hook you up.
A show of hands children?
Gimme a break.
Also I wouldnt tell my son he will catch gay cooties i just dont think I should have to answer why a man MAY act like a steriotypical gay man that he saw at a gathering of fellow scouts whos set of values doesnt include all peoples way of life thats why its a club or association thats the friggin point.
As far as using or teaching my son the word faggot I do not, however I will alert him to the presence of elite group of people in the world who believe they are better that you and twist your words to reiterate their false beliefs.
These my son are the douchebags!
Oh my goodness. I had a lot to say, but that's all I can get out. I have a feeling you believe you belong to an "elite" group. You don't....
ohmy

Ithaca, NY

#51 Feb 10, 2013
observer wrote:
<quoted text>
If homosexuals have a problem with the policies of the Boy Scouts they are free to start a group of their own. Why do homosexuals always want to force themselves upon others? As I travel the roadways, I see bumper stickers which declare the driver's "gay pride" or a rainbow symbol or something similar. I have seen stickers that actually declare the homosexuality of the car's driver. I have never seen a sticker that says "heterosexual pride" or declares that the driver is heterosexual. I sometimes visit many state university college campuses. I am always amazed by the number of rainbow stickers I see on the classroom doors of homosexual faculty menbers. Why do these situations exist? Are these people trying to "hook-up" with other homosexuals? Straight people aren't putting signs out there declaring their sexuality. If homosexuals are proud of what they are, then good for them! But by all means, leave the rest of us alone who believe such behavior is immoral and wrong. You cannot say or do anything that will change our minds. Wrong is wrong. It always has been and always will be. Feel free to call me a bigot if that is your desire. I have broad shoulders and have been called worse. But if any of you feel free to namecall, notice that I have not used derogatory words for homosexuals or homosexuality. So who is the bigot?
You are a bigot and a homophobe... there are much bigger problems in today's world than people loving each other. You and your people (the "Harry Bawls" of the world - you should be very proud) make this world a much more hateful place. Very, very sad. I bet you call yourself "Christian" too...
lucky

Ithaca, NY

#52 Feb 10, 2013
justajoe wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you know exactly how straight men feel about homosexuals, or should I call you something that ends in ggots?
Absoluttely Ashamed and Disgusted that I have to even try to explain what you people are to my son!
I'm not sure how you will explain to your son that this person who dared call you out is a straight white female, mother, grandmother, who has NEVER been with a woman but who judges people based on their character NOT on whom they chose to love or how they were born!! I'm not going to judge you for being ignorant, I just wish you would keep your ignorance or fear (more likely) to yourself. Then again, you are because you (like me) are hiding behind a computer. I bet there are MANY, MANY gay men who you wouldn't DARE say these things to their faces :) So go ahead, sit your son down and have that dreaded talk that there are people in the world who love people for their quality and how they treat others, NOT on who they love. Lord almight, he is going to be SOO disappointed.
justajoe

Ardsley, NY

#54 Feb 10, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
I do feel sympathy for your kid. By the time he's 8 or 9, one or more of his friends will have explained Adam and Steve to him, with or without your knowledge and consent. Most kids get rudimentary sex information quite early. It's not always accurate, but kids talk about it. They often don't tell their parents everything they've picked up. So the notion of control over what he learns is pretty much a parental pipe dream.

I haven't called you any names, but you seem fond of sexual references when describing people who disagree with you.
If your talking to me then its simply untrue that you havent called me any names. You said I teach my child hate.
Thats a shitty parent and that is what you are calling me.
And I didnt use the word faggot until you insinuated my son or I use it. And that was to explain we dont
Hate is hurtful as is words like fag and the n word as its meant to degrade someone because of something beyond their choosing. Douchebag is a choice. I dont have a problem with you unless you speak falsehoods about me. So only if the shoe fits- should you wear it.

Ps douche isnt a sexual reference its hygene.
justajoe

Ardsley, NY

#55 Feb 10, 2013
Another thing, I dont believe my sons school mates sexual beliefs will hold weight compared to a homosexual scoutleader who Ive told my kid to look up to and learn from.
I mean you tell your kids not to believe their friends every word. They tell stories to get attention. They sometimes try to get you into trouble.
Im not sure I have the energy to spend much more time on this you know how I feel I try to be fair but at the same time need to protect my son so back to my little life and if you dont vote for me I dont give a shit I dont run for office, I value my opinions too much.
Hmmm

Metuchen, NJ

#57 Feb 10, 2013
justajoe wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you know exactly how straight men feel about homosexuals, or should I call you something that ends in ggots?
Absoluttely Ashamed and Disgusted that I have to even try to explain what you people are to my son!
What else "ends in ggots"? Don't be coy about that or about the sexual innuendo of "douchebag". You don't call posters names? You don't recognize hate speech.

Nobody is forcing anything. However, I am considering getting a bumper sticker that says, "I'm straight but not narrow".

Your son will grow up to be whoever he is meant to be. If he's gay, I hope you won't think he's "you people".
faggotmaggots

Saranac Lake, NY

#58 Feb 10, 2013
Why don't all you queers go somewhere else and bitch?
Tolerance is a virtue

Raleigh, NC

#59 Feb 10, 2013
faggotmaggots wrote:
Why don't all you queers go somewhere else and bitch?
You have won THE PRIZE.
faggotmaggots

Saranac Lake, NY

#60 Feb 10, 2013
Go back to your own kind.
Tolerance is a virtue

Raleigh, NC

#61 Feb 10, 2013
faggotmaggots wrote:
Go back to your own kind.
Sorry, I thought you were in the running.

I will ignore your entry.
faggotmaggots

Saranac Lake, NY

#62 Feb 10, 2013
Tolerance is a virtue wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I thought you were in the running.
I will ignore your entry.
You must think this is a gay pride march. You'll have to look elsewhere for one.
mr lawyer

Boonville, NY

#63 Feb 10, 2013
dream big wrote:
There are many gay people in the world. It doesn't mean they are child molesters or act like sissys as another on here have said. You wouldn't even know some people are gay unless they told you. Many keep their lives very private because of the stereotypes.
Just because a person is gay doesn't mean they would push what they believe on to a child or anyone else. That's like saying all priest would molest a child because a few may have. So in that respect some could say no Catholics could be a Scout Leader because of the priests. It's just a plain stupid generalization. There are many successful people in the world who are gay. They wouldn't have made it this far if they weren't professional in what they do.
SICK
Dick Gozinya

Saranac Lake, NY

#64 Feb 11, 2013
If a gay dude can overcome a sphincter he can overcome you hate mongers.

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