Alamo Followers Sue AR DHS

Alamo Followers Sue AR DHS

There are 11 comments on the story from Apr 10, 2009, titled Alamo Followers Sue AR DHS. In it, reports that:

The lawsuit was filed by attorney Phillip E. Kuhn of Lakeland, Fla., on behalf of the ministry and members Bert Krantz and Greg Seago, each of whom live in Fouke and have children who have been placed in foster care.

Kuhn is the lead attorney for a group known as CPS Watch Legal Team, which sent a news release to media outlets announcing the lawsuit.

A partnership between the nonprofit groups Families Best Interest of Stuart, Fla., and CPS Watch, of Branson, the team was formed about two years ago to ensure that the rights of parents are protected in child-welfare cases, said Desere Howard, director of Families Best Interest and the legal team coordinator.

She said the team is especially interested in mass removals of children, such as the removal of more than 400 children from a Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ranch near El Dorado, Texas, in March 2008, and the removal of 115 children from the Heartland Christian Academy boarding school in northeast Missouri in 2001


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Since: Dec 07

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#1 Apr 10, 2009
Look at all the cockroaches in the corners, Justice!
Everyone dying to get their fingers in AlameO's Pot O' Gold!

Since: Dec 07

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#2 Apr 10, 2009
I just wonder WHO is paying this team to sue AR DHS? AlameO the Millionaire? Or the poor sobs who have never had a job or skills or training or education past 4th grade in their entire miserable lives, the followers?

Fullerton, CA

#3 Apr 10, 2009
Well, all I can say is, good luck on convincing a Judge or Jury concerning the contentions of this suit. And in trying to convince anyone of their opinions of safety regarding any child subjected to their repeated practices.

“Save the children from ”

Since: Mar 08


#4 Apr 10, 2009
ROTFLOL! I still think I should sue the Alamos! What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. As history has proved ,they allways get theirs.

Really though If someone had grounds to sue DHS it would be me. One for not being there for me when I needed them and two for not giving me my kids when they finely did step in ten years later.
For the manny manny times I called DHS through the years seeking help for my kids only to be turned away with my pleads for help falling on deaf ears.

I just thank God DHS is finely doing a good thing for my kids and the others.

To bad they wouldn't listen years ago.
wild paca

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Apr 10, 2009
Seago and Krantz are such idiots, the emperor is naked, completely exposed. Do the right thing for your children idiots. You continue to support your disgraced pedophile pastor and your disgraced comrades. What you support will grow, get rid of the dross (Alamo), and move on friend.

United States

#6 Apr 11, 2009
It is such a shame that the money born of years of hard labor (when I worked there, I used to think the descriptions of jail and prison chain gangs I'd hear about, sounded like a "piece of cake" by comparison to the work I had to do and the conditions I lived in(at least they had breaks,eight hour days a cot or bed and clean decent food and water, a chance to shower each day and someplace warm to sleep)is being sought by all these opportunistic vulture/maggot creatures.I pray they aren't successful and that the "pot of gold" which isn't Tony's at all will go to rightful victims in the end.

Rives, MO

#7 Apr 11, 2009
I find it interesting, the father's comment that they, not mothers filed the suit, so that it would not interfer with the mother's ability to possibly get custody of children from DHS. That Krants may lose his wife over GOD. This may appear as good tactic for them, but I think the judge is smarter than that. The mom gets kids, the dad still part of their lives, slowly, the kids are back into the church. What a farse!

AND we are talking a preacher , a belief, a way of life, NOT GOD!

“PartneredAgainst CultActivity”

Since: Mar 08

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#8 Apr 11, 2009
The message must remain to be told, till everyone has heard and understands it. This is not about a persons right to religious freedom, it is about child abuse. Contra to what the Miller County Prosecutor once said, we do not have a problem with the way the Alamo's worship. It is the abuse involved we are outraged about.

Fullerton, CA

#9 Apr 11, 2009
Walker wrote:
The mom gets kids, the dad still part of their lives, slowly, the kids are back into the church. What a farse!
AND we are talking a preacher , a belief, a way of life, NOT GOD!
In the cult, the male is supreme ruler and sole judge in all issue. The wives are to be secondary, submissive, relinquishing and obedient. The only exception allowed in the cult is when a wife is reporting her husband to alamo for an offense he will be punished for.

A prominent forte' of the cult doctrine are the numerous scripture that demean women, such as found in the Book of Proverbs and other places.

Even if the wives are filing for singular custody, they will do whatever their husbands order them to w/ those children.

United States

#10 Apr 18, 2009
These groups are radical and tricky! You will see more of this type of lawsuit with the Demo Obanation giving so much authority to those who believe to be repressed. Just across the street from each other, two colleges in same town. State and Baptist, one has very radical views and spurs a lot of contention in town. I am talking about bible belt Arkansas! Where a foot hold is; a spur will gouge!

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#11 Apr 29, 2009
On April 9, Kuhn filed a suit in Barnes’ court on behalf of the church and two Alamo-following fathers. The suit names DHS Director John Selig, Miller County DHS Administrator Steve Mason and Fort Smith DHS Administrator Gwen Lovelace as defendants.
(Thank GOD they had the heart and brains to believe the VICTIMS who TESTIFIED they'd been RAPED and MOLESTED and BEATEN!)

In the suit, Kuhn accuses DHS of using allegations of child abuse to disband the church. Parents fearful of losing their kids are in hiding and are no longer taking care of church business, the suit alleges.
(Bummer, maybe they should have been taking care of their own children and protecting them from the World Abomination Pedophile Pastor AlameO in the first place).

The suit seeks an injunction from the court that would prevent DHS from taking more children.
(Prevent DHS from protecting the children from parents who WORSHIP at the SADISTIC PEDOPHILE PREACHER'S feet, and sacrifice their little girls to OTHER PEDOPHILE CULT MEMBERS?)

(Does this include the 100 or so missing kids under the FIRST order?)

Under the law, the DHS defendants have until Tuesday to respond to Kuhn’s motion for an injunction. Barnes granted a request Friday for an extension filed by lawyers representing the DHS administrators.

“Because plaintiffs do not seek a hearing on their request for a preliminary injunction for 45 to 60 days in order to conduct discovery, the defendants now seek to enlarge the time to respond to the motion for preliminary injunction to coincide with the time to respond to the complaint,” the motion said.

A response to the motion for an injunction and an answer to the complaint must now be filed by the DHS defendants by May 1, 2009.

James Brader and Carmen Mosley-Sims are representing Selig, Mason and Lovelace. Both are staff attorneys with the Arkansas DHS Office of Chief Counsel in Little Rock.
(WE have faith in you, Brader and Sims... We are in your corner! Thank you for continuing to protect the VICTIMS!)


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