Live music hurtin for certain in Terr...

Live music hurtin for certain in Terre Haute

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barguru

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#1 Mar 16, 2013
Live music bars that have closed in the past 3 years. TK's, Gooseneck, Dawghouse, and Blukatt. I would like input as to why Terre Haute suffers horribly with support of live music as compared to Indy, West Lafayette, and Bloomington? Even West Terre Haute has Sports 40 and the Midway that hires live music, but in Terre Haute Imperial Lanes and and very small pub called the Cabin. I was in there one time when someone farted, and the whole place cleared out in a matter of 90 seconds. It is small.

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#2 Mar 16, 2013
You said it! We can't even get any decent music at the civic center.
Back in the day there were concerts just about every two weeks.
Bands like Kansas, Stix, ELO; REO.... those were the days!!
Now we're left with "The home show" and other crappy expos ...
barguru

AOL

#3 Mar 17, 2013
I agree, Alice Cooper, Kiss, Foghat, Ted Nugent, Elvis Pressley, and Foreiner. What was happening then that isn't happening now?????
its true

Greenfield, IN

#4 Mar 17, 2013
A lot of it is the ISU board of directors have shot rock acts down in recent years. The new trend I music in general is to play smaller venues and provide a more intimate experience.(Accept for the "super acts"). Problem is that a lot of the crowd that goes to a metal and even some rock shows are hell bent on destroying the venue. All the while wondering why ticket prices go through the roof and eventually venues refuse to bring in acts that they have branded with this audience. ISU has done this with rock music in general. I can't remember the last rock band that played at the Hulman center.
Insane

Terre Haute, IN

#5 Mar 17, 2013
We'll never get any good shows back to Terre Haute until we get some decent radio stations first.
Spellbound

North Liberty, IA

#6 Mar 18, 2013
The Terre Haute newspaper used to have a flyer on friday that listed the local entertainment for the weekend. There are alot of good local bands in the valley. The problem with small bars are the punks that cause trouble at times and being packed too tight to enjoy the music. As far as the good ole days of concerts at the hulman center, there arent tons of good bands like there used to be. The old bands are playing in smaller venues and staying close to home now days. Plus it would take a damned good band with original members to fill up the hulman center. The shrine building would be a good place to have some concerts. Done right with plenty of security, there would be profit and a good time. They get the dummie mummies there once a year so it would be nice to get rock shows there every other month.
Air guitar

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#7 Mar 18, 2013
Spellbound wrote:
The Terre Haute newspaper used to have a flyer on friday that listed the local entertainment for the weekend. There are alot of good local bands in the valley. The problem with small bars are the punks that cause trouble at times and being packed too tight to enjoy the music. As far as the good ole days of concerts at the hulman center, there arent tons of good bands like there used to be. The old bands are playing in smaller venues and staying close to home now days. Plus it would take a damned good band with original members to fill up the hulman center. The shrine building would be a good place to have some concerts. Done right with plenty of security, there would be profit and a good time. They get the dummie mummies there once a year so it would be nice to get rock shows there every other month.
OH Man! I used to love those concerts. There used to be plenty if great bands but anymore you can have those things in these small police state like cities. It really is a shame. I miss the old days.
Barfly

Terre Haute, IN

#9 Mar 21, 2013
ALL of the bars that you mentioned that have closed have one common denominator - they were all infiltrated with a dark hue. Same thing happened to Willy Jak's. Once the blacks came in and started hassling the young white girls, the young white girls quit going to these bars, then the white males quit going because they were there for the young white girls, and all you had left was a clientele that doesn't want to spend much money. Voila! You have an enterprise that can't make it. Haven't seen too much of that at Al's at Imperial Lanes, he's still hanging in there, thanks be to God! That place is by far the best venue to go to for live music in Terre Haute. Remember the old days of Pizza City, Bacchi's, rock festivals at Fairbanks Park, and (I can't remember the name)the old 6th Ave bar before it was the 6th ave bar?
Concerned

Brazil, IN

#10 Mar 21, 2013
The main reason live music has become few and far between is because there are three licensing companies that require you to pay a fee to be able to have entertainment. The fee is based on your seating and the type of entertainment. Each company BMI, Ascap, and SESAC were started by entertainers like Garth Brooks and is several hundred dollars per year for each of the three companies. If you do not pay it they take you to court. So even for a small bar if you pay say 400.00 to each company a year, plus pay 1000.00 for a band it is hard to break even let alone make a profit.
Tallguy

Terre Haute, IN

#11 Mar 21, 2013
Concerned wrote:
The main reason live music has become few and far between is because there are three licensing companies that require you to pay a fee to be able to have entertainment. The fee is based on your seating and the type of entertainment. Each company BMI, Ascap, and SESAC were started by entertainers like Garth Brooks and is several hundred dollars per year for each of the three companies. If you do not pay it they take you to court. So even for a small bar if you pay say 400.00 to each company a year, plus pay 1000.00 for a band it is hard to break even let alone make a profit.
Your an idiot, that's not the reason.
whogoesthere

San Diego, CA

#12 Mar 21, 2013
Tallguy wrote:
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Your an idiot, that's not the reason.
I agree...their an idiot. The bars don't pay a fee or have to have a license to hire a band. They do have to have enough clientele to turn a profit to warrant hiring a band. It's neither black nor white nor yellow nor red. And there are some o.k. bars in Terre Haute. Teepee, Archies, Charlies, Ambros, and others. All of those but Charlies support live music. And the BASH that lists the entertainment for TH comes out on Thursdays as an insert to the Trib Star.
barguru

AOL

#13 Mar 22, 2013
whogoesthere wrote:
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I agree...their an idiot. The bars don't pay a fee or have to have a license to hire a band. They do have to have enough clientele to turn a profit to warrant hiring a band. It's neither black nor white nor yellow nor red. And there are some o.k. bars in Terre Haute. Teepee, Archies, Charlies, Ambros, and others. All of those but Charlies support live music. And the BASH that lists the entertainment for TH comes out on Thursdays as an insert to the Trib Star.
It is a fact that if a bar has a jukebox or live music then you MUST have a permit from the big three. I owned a bar and know this to be a fact. The main reason that bars fail having live music in Terre Haute is due to thin or negative profit margins after you pay the band, the license companies, liquor and beer, insurance, electric bill, rent, and labor. It is a loosing proposition. I now go to 8 second saloon in Indy for live music. They have enough general population willing to support live music as well.
Dave

Naperville, IL

#14 Sep 5, 2016
Bands that used to play at Bacchis and similar places were playing for the door, sometimes a percentage of the door. They were brought in because the place would otherwise be dead on Friday or Saturday. The BMI/ASAP licenses are paid for ANY public play of recorded music. These license fees are used to help compensate artists for the public performance of their music. The fees also cover the live performances of the mostly cover material.
Macho Man

Chicago, IL

#15 Sep 5, 2016
Dave wrote:
Bands that used to play at Bacchis and similar places were playing for the door, sometimes a percentage of the door. They were brought in because the place would otherwise be dead on Friday or Saturday. The BMI/ASAP licenses are paid for ANY public play of recorded music. These license fees are used to help compensate artists for the public performance of their music. The fees also cover the live performances of the mostly cover material.
The worst thing in the world is a band that writes their own music. I hate original bands! And they think they are so much better than everyone else! Truth is most just suck and can't make other people's songs sound like the real thing. I kinda like that Mullet Over band but seeing them once a year is good for me, Octanes sucked last time I saw them, are there any other bands still besides freak show they aren't even local, Mean Street was ok but singer wasn't great.
Heidi

Terre Haute, IN

#16 Sep 5, 2016
Macho Man wrote:
<quoted text>The worst thing in the world is a band that writes their own music. I hate original bands! And they think they are so much better than everyone else! Truth is most just suck and can't make other people's songs sound like the real thing. I kinda like that Mullet Over band but seeing them once a year is good for me, Octanes sucked last time I saw them, are there any other bands still besides freak show they aren't even local, Mean Street was ok but singer wasn't great.
The band Soul Engineers are by far the best house band in town. The lead guitarist is the best in the area if not the Midwest!
Macho Man

Terre Haute, IN

#18 Sep 6, 2016
Heidi wrote:
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The band Soul Engineers are by far the best house band in town. The lead guitarist is the best in the area if not the Midwest!
I haven't seen them, Where do they play?
Yep

Chicago, IL

#19 Sep 6, 2016
Barfly wrote:
ALL of the bars that you mentioned that have closed have one common denominator - they were all infiltrated with a dark hue. Same thing happened to Willy Jak's. Once the blacks came in and started hassling the young white girls, the young white girls quit going to these bars, then the white males quit going because they were there for the young white girls, and all you had left was a clientele that doesn't want to spend much money. Voila! You have an enterprise that can't make it. Haven't seen too much of that at Al's at Imperial Lanes, he's still hanging in there, thanks be to God! That place is by far the best venue to go to for live music in Terre Haute. Remember the old days of Pizza City, Bacchi's, rock festivals at Fairbanks Park, and (I can't remember the name)the old 6th Ave bar before it was the 6th ave bar?
You said the truth
Heidi

Chicago, IL

#20 Sep 6, 2016
Macho Man wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't seen them, Where do they play?
They haven't played anywhere yet, but they might someday
Abe

Terre Haute, IN

#21 Sep 6, 2016
Heidi wrote:
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They haven't played anywhere yet, but they might someday
that's dumb

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