The militirization continues

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GoogerGeiger

Terre Haute, IN

#1 Nov 24, 2013
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u-s-world/...

I'm sure most of you pigsuckers will welcome this with open arms. I hope they gun you down first as you give them a friendly wave.
Stupid buster

Clinton, IN

#2 Nov 24, 2013
m i l i t a r i z a t i o n

“Licensed Fool”

Since: May 12

Not laughing with you...

#3 Nov 24, 2013
It isn't that hard to understand.

The corporation that builds these and sells them to the military isn't stupid. As troops are withdrawn from Iraq and now Afganistan orders are falling off. They want to keep making money. They work to start a government program to donate these vehicles to every police department they can free of charge. Those departments will maintain the vehicles and keep ordering spare parts for years. Your tax dollars will continue to flow to the corporations long after the wars have ended.

No conspiracy, just clever businessmen.
Truth B Told

Terre Haute, IN

#5 Nov 25, 2013
The Comedian wrote:
It isn't that hard to understand.
The corporation that builds these and sells them to the military isn't stupid. As troops are withdrawn from Iraq and now Afganistan orders are falling off. They want to keep making money. They work to start a government program to donate these vehicles to every police department they can free of charge. Those departments will maintain the vehicles and keep ordering spare parts for years. Your tax dollars will continue to flow to the corporations long after the wars have ended.
No conspiracy, just clever businessmen.
That seems to be correct. Now with the rest of the world rejecting unconstitutional
pointless wars based of profits and lies, these businessmen have to sell the tanks to someone and keep wars going or they lose profits. Add that to the fact that police already hate freedom and resent the people that they are supposed to be working for and there you have it. It is not like americans usually have to guts to stand up against authorities in the wrong. You could call it a case of getting the government you deserve if you know what I mean. I don't usually agree with what most presidents say but to quote GWB talking about police: "They hate us for our freedom." Looks like the terrorists won when you see these police getting tanks stories. Also makes having a military pointless. In 1930s Germany the Axis absorbed their city officers into the SS in the exact same way that the US is now with militarization.
Stupid buster

Clinton, IN

#6 Nov 25, 2013
Truth B Told wrote:
<quoted text> That seems to be correct. Now with the rest of the world rejecting unconstitutional
pointless wars based of profits and lies, these businessmen have to sell the tanks to someone and keep wars going or they lose profits. Add that to the fact that police already hate freedom and resent the people that they are supposed to be working for and there you have it. It is not like americans usually have to guts to stand up against authorities in the wrong. You could call it a case of getting the government you deserve if you know what I mean. I don't usually agree with what most presidents say but to quote GWB talking about police: "They hate us for our freedom." Looks like the terrorists won when you see these police getting tanks stories. Also makes having a military pointless. In 1930s Germany the Axis absorbed their city officers into the SS in the exact same way that the US is now with militarization.
M.S.?
its too late

United States

#8 Nov 25, 2013
If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue

“Licensed Fool”

Since: May 12

Not laughing with you...

#9 Nov 25, 2013
its too late wrote:
If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue
That is not quite what that case says. Might want to read a little more carefully.
its too late

United States

#10 Nov 25, 2013
This is probably why they have very few innocent cases in this area. They make sure that they get a guilty plea by any means. Follow an actual trial sometime it takes years to happen. They ignore well meaning lawyers who ask for a speedy trial. The courts make up excuses of too many cases and simply won't do it. The person is assumed guilty and has a bail so insanely high that they sit there until they plead guilty just to get out. The American judicial system is indeed garbage. Many innocent people are forced to plead guilty to the lesser charges, otherwise they have to spent enormous amounts of money on criminal defense attorneys who never even guarantee positive outcome. That is how our criminal justice system works in this country.

If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue
I see

Terre Haute, IN

#11 Nov 25, 2013
its too late wrote:
This is probably why they have very few innocent cases in this area. They make sure that they get a guilty plea by any means. Follow an actual trial sometime it takes years to happen. They ignore well meaning lawyers who ask for a speedy trial. The courts make up excuses of too many cases and simply won't do it. The person is assumed guilty and has a bail so insanely high that they sit there until they plead guilty just to get out. The American judicial system is indeed garbage. Many innocent people are forced to plead guilty to the lesser charges, otherwise they have to spent enormous amounts of money on criminal defense attorneys who never even guarantee positive outcome. That is how our criminal justice system works in this country.
If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue
That explains quiet a bit. I have followed cases in Terre Haute and Clinton and always wondered why the courts almost always side with the police for no matter how fishy the cops story seems. When I was a juror many years ago here they tried some bs like that with some young girl but we jurors agreed to nullification. And BOY was that judge mad about it too! Though nullification is perfectly legal, it's something that you will certainly never see in Terre Haute. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...

“Licensed Fool”

Since: May 12

Not laughing with you...

#12 Nov 25, 2013
its too late wrote:
This is probably why they have very few innocent cases in this area. They make sure that they get a guilty plea by any means. Follow an actual trial sometime it takes years to happen. They ignore well meaning lawyers who ask for a speedy trial. The courts make up excuses of too many cases and simply won't do it. The person is assumed guilty and has a bail so insanely high that they sit there until they plead guilty just to get out. The American judicial system is indeed garbage. Many innocent people are forced to plead guilty to the lesser charges, otherwise they have to spent enormous amounts of money on criminal defense attorneys who never even guarantee positive outcome. That is how our criminal justice system works in this country.
If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue
Look up the actual case and read it. There isn't a special immunity just for the police. There is an immunity that applies to all witnesses from being sued civilly for damages.
What

United States

#13 Nov 25, 2013
The Comedian wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up the actual case and read it. There isn't a special immunity just for the police. There is an immunity that applies to all witnesses from being sued civilly for damages.
Grow up. It says what it says no matter how you try to spin or distort it.
What

United States

#14 Nov 25, 2013
I see wrote:
<quoted text> That explains quiet a bit. I have followed cases in Terre Haute and Clinton and always wondered why the courts almost always side with the police for no matter how fishy the cops story seems. When I was a juror many years ago here they tried some bs like that with some young girl but we jurors agreed to nullification. And BOY was that judge mad about it too! Though nullification is perfectly legal, it's something that you will certainly never see in Terre Haute. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
I never though I'd ever see anything about Jury nullification on here of all places too! Last that I knew some political hack was trying to outlaw it in Indiana.

“Licensed Fool”

Since: May 12

Not laughing with you...

#15 Nov 25, 2013
What wrote:
<quoted text>Grow up. It says what it says no matter how you try to spin or distort it.
It says what it says. It does not say what you say that it says.

Since: Jul 13

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#16 Nov 25, 2013
its too late wrote:
If a cop armed like Rambo does kill someone on accident or for fun then the other cops on the force will just lie for him anyway. So will the courts.
Police (plus prosecutors) have immunity from perjury under oath -- Briscoe v. Lahue. Justice = joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briscoe_v._LaHue
It's clear what it says comedian you lose my friend. I see nothing in it about protecting anyone other than purjuring cops. I know an english tutor if you are having problems adjusting to the language or readinf comprehension. I can help you. All you have to do is ask.
FACE!

Since: Jul 13

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#17 Nov 25, 2013
Lets all get back on topic please. It's hard to understand some of these threads when people try to derail them if they don't like the subject.

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