Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husb...

Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

There are 918 comments on the WBZT-AM West Palm Beach story from Sep 27, 2006, titled Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder. In it, WBZT-AM West Palm Beach reports that:

SIX YEARS LATER, INVESTIGATORS HAVE A SUSPECT IN A MURDER CASE THAT SHOCKED NORTH PALM BEACH COUNTY.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WBZT-AM West Palm Beach.

whatasadstory

San Francisco, CA

#876 May 16, 2013
Thi is such a sad story. I just watched Dateline.
Bob Heartsong is free? What an injustice.
My thoughts go out to that beautiful woman Toni's.family.

Bob Heartsong...rot in hell murderer.
Megan

Biddeford, ME

#878 Jul 2, 2013
BobSherin wrote:
Off-thread, Tofu knives with rounded tips was raised. Research unearthed different configurations with pointed Tofu knives being usual. This wasnÂ’t an issue at trial or in this thread. To everyone material, the Tofu knife missing from the crime scene was the final weapon presumed to be in the drawer beneath the counter while on it stood visible knives bristling from a butcher block. This thread started on November 17, 2006. Above, on July 9, 2012, for the first time, Suzye Heartsong informs us that the Tofu knife portrayed by both sides at trial as in the drawer was on the counter, a fact only the killer would know. See post 848 by Suzye Heartsong.
I recently watched the Heartsong case on Dateline and the case bothered me long after the episode was over. The one thing that stuck out to me, was when Bob Heartsong mentioned how he was in disbelief over what the murderer did to his wife's face. Questions flooded my mind and I entered a question in to my google search engine; "was Toni's eyes stabbed in murder?". From what I uncovered the answer is yes. My questions led me to this thread; of which I have read numerous numerous posts. Bob's ex wife's post on her statement of where the tofu knife was at the time to the murder chills me. But getting back to my question of wether Toni had her eyes stabbed... I googled that because in the Dateline episode bob stated several times how he loved her eyes..how it was the first thing he noticed when he met her. Also, a home video shows him zooming in to her eyes and then zooming back out. Then to find out that her eyes where indeed stabbed.....WOW! I also found it interesting how quickly Bob and Toni moved in together! The first day they met! Then married seven months later. I believe that goes to show how quickly Bob makes decisions... How perhaps in a sudden rage he also made a quick choice to murder his wife. And bob's quick relationship after his wife's death is also chilling. Not enough to proof e his guilt but everything together..including the DNA under Toni's fingernail belonging to Bob leads me to believe who is responsible.

Bob Sherin... I do think that you should release a book on the case. Perhaps it could be enough to stir up the case for a re.trail and put Robert Heartsong in to prison. Toni deserves justice. I do want her family to have peace but how can they with this case not reaching justice?

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#879 Jul 2, 2013
Megan,

First, quite rightly our system has no double jeopardy.

Your comments on Toni's eyes are on point. Assistant Prosecutor Barbara Burns commented on Toni's sullied eyes in a TV interview, but I don't recall it being raised at trial, probably because without Robert's testimony, there was no foundation.

The best outcome now is to give the family peace. Even the Sorens (Toni's side) want peace at this point, I believe. We all must consider the children.
Anon

Maumee, OH

#880 Jul 7, 2013
I stumbled into this thread like others, moved by the story of Toni and after reading some of this drivel spouted here all I can say now are two things:
1, damn wish I could get the time that I have wasted here back, I'd go scrub the toilet or something!
2, y'all at nuts. Go to bingo. Go buy a dog or something, shit.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#882 Jul 11, 2013
Anon wrote:
I stumbled into this thread like others, moved by the story of Toni and after reading some of this drivel spouted here all I can say now are two things:
1, damn wish I could get the time that I have wasted here back, I'd go scrub the toilet or something!
2, y'all at nuts. Go to bingo. Go buy a dog or something, shit.
No one forced you to read any of the 872 posts on 44 pages here, dating from November 17, 2006. The most knowledgeable people on this crime have posted here, including the Heartsong and Soren families, a 48-Hours producer championing Bob while defaming this poster.

When people feel strongly, animus is understandable. This poster has made mistakes in facts, all of which have been instantly corrected when brought to my attention. This thread is arguably the best thread on any unresolved crime. Sadly, no one on the Heartsong side has admitted or corrected any of their mistakes or addressed the hard evidence, some of which has only been adduced here.

Now it's time to let go, to give the family peace. But as long as posters come in with obvious ignorance or an obvious agenda, I'm going to respond so as to preserve this thread's authenticity.
cecilia

Kansas City, MO

#884 Jul 27, 2013
I agree with megan. I believe he is guilty.
cheri

Sacramento, CA

#885 Aug 10, 2013
Ok, we saw this on TV last night. The two witnesses (lady neighbor and jail house guy) were NOT in any way believable. I did not think the DNA evidence meant much either and am a bit suspicious of the evidence under her fingernail - what size was that sample? Something is really wrong with the evidence just not fitting Heartsong. We were shocked they brought him to trial. Hairs in her underwear unidentified? Footprints of a murderer or sloppy police work? The knife could have been out on the counter. I can go on and on, no matter who murdered her they did not have enough against Heartsong to jail and try him. Period. And, they may have dropped the ball on ever catching the real murderer.
cheri

Sacramento, CA

#886 Aug 10, 2013
BobSherin wrote:
J Heyen,
Appreciate your kind words. The finger print on the deadbolt was never identified nor were the hairs, including the red beard hair in her pubic hair. One explanation: Toni had shopped at Burdines that morning, supporting the theory, she picked up hairs while trying on clothes.
That is the most ridiculous theory I've ever heard. Both my husband and I thought so.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#888 Aug 12, 2013
Starting out a believer like you, it didn't take me long to turn 180 degrees. Starting as Bob's Web Master, I stepped down after reading the police report.
Addressing your post, it's clear you have only a passing knowledge of this event, because, for example, the Palm Beach County Sheriff failed to protect the crime scene. Brought out at trial, the shoe prints belonged to their employees.
The jailhouse testimony was hearsay anyway and could have been excluded if the defense wanted to object. The point man in the conversation with Bob was another inmate who talked law and DNA before a court hearing. I was astounded that he wasn't called.
Assistant Prosecutor Burns told me that the primary inmate wasn't credible. So if the primary witness wasn't credible, why did she call a hearsay witness? Something was fishy with the trial, although I believe the jury got it right with acquittal on account of a lack of evidence. Most jurors, if not all, like me, thought he did it.
As to the lady neighbor, she had no reason to testify one way or the other. The trouble with her was fear of Bob, typical in such case. Her fear made her testimony wobble. When she testified at trial, she was wholly believable to me. Even her Husband corroborated that, while he didn't hear the argument, he did hear a scraping sound, which was the tail bed of a truck parked at the premises at around 1 PM, the day of the murder, for a short time.
She was such a crucial witness, Ms. Burns should have taken steps to bolster her testimony by, for example, calling an expert about the psychology of witnesses to murder, which would have explained her wobbling testimony up to and including the trial.
Looking back at your post, I'm suspect that you may be a plant, because the Heartsongs have engaged in plants throughout this thread. Doesn't mean you are one; I have no way of knowing.
One thing you posted made me suspect: That's the knife on the counter. The only time that arose was in this thread from Bob's former Wife, Suzye Goldstein-Heartsong. On the media and in the trial, the tofu knife was said to be in the drawer.
Then, one day last year, in her defense of Bob, Suzye said that we hadn't been "all over the Tofu knife," because it was on the counter. Since it was the only thing missing from the crime scene, only the killer could have known it was on the counter.
Since that discovery, Suzye has been long gone. If you go back and read this thread, you'll learn that on the day of the murder, Bob mis-spoke about where he was on the road, presumably to bolster his alibi.
Witnesses at the Delray job site in no way corroborate his alibi. And that was one of the trial's problems. Employees at the Delray job site gave varying testimony when they thought he was there or his red car was there.
Burns should have illustrated the timeline testimony to develop that window from about 12:15 to around 3 PM, the time when Bob, not Toni as planned, showed up at Delray Mazda. During the material part of that time, Bob's cell phone was turned off.
The DNA sample was small and misrepresented by Burns, who implied Bob's blood was under Toni's finger nail. It took a jury question to adduce the truth. Not so, it turned out, his DNA was there but not his blood, a deciding factor in the verdict.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#889 Aug 12, 2013
cheri wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the most ridiculous theory I've ever heard. Both my husband and I thought so.
You may very well be right. Let's examine what went into that statement. The police adduced that Toni had made friends at the gym with a retired New York City, Police Officer. The authorities had further learned, according to the daytime gym manager, that Toni's relationship with the cop was not known to go beyond the doors of the gym.

So, in the absence of anything to the contrary, we're trying to preserve Toni's reputation. It is true, on that Tuesday of the murder, Toni visited the gym briefly -- unbeknownst to Bob at the time. For Toni, this was most unusual, since one of her gym days was Monday, when she had worked out there, and not Tuesday.

If you read the latter half of this thread, you'll find another potential motive of why she might have gone to the gym unbeknownst to Bob.

Based on your post, I'm going to delve this further, understanding only too well it is a sensitive subject. Thanks for weighing in.
Megan

United States

#890 Aug 12, 2013
Bob, do you have an email? I had a private question to ask.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#891 Aug 13, 2013
Wow, this almost went by me without identification from Tropix. Yes, let me give it in a way that I know it will get through: BobSherin at gmail.com

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#892 Aug 13, 2013
I cannot be 100% sure, but this is the retired New York Police Officer, a body builder, with whom Toni had made friends at the gym. To be sure, the relationship is not known to have gone beyond the gym doors.

Please consider this an alleged and tentative posting looking for more compete commentary on those closer to either one or both of the people. This body builder had spent time in prison for selling steroids, which sales started in gyms just before Toni was murdered. He died young, likely from steroid use.

Not something yet fit for television, I know this is an uncorroborated post, but maybe it will commentary from others. Here's what I just found:

FORGIONE - Anthony C. of Greensboro, NC, suddenly June 12, 2013. Beloved father ofChristian Anthony. Loving son of Louis & Irene Forgione. Devoted brother of Jay Forgione (Lynn), Cheryl Forgione and JoanneForgione-Salata (John). Cherished uncle of Nicole Forgione, Kristen Summers and Raymond Andrews. Anthony was an avid body builder, nicknamed Pretty Boy. His love for life was God, family and his body building family. He was a professional in the sport as well as a gentleman. He was loved and respected byeveryone in the sport he competed in since he was 16. He was a veteran of the Air Force as well as a former police officer with the NYPD and the Boca Raton P.D. Reposing Saturday 2-4:30 & 7-9:30 P.M. at the Powell Funeral Home, Inc., 67 Broadway (Rt. 110), Amityville. Military Honors 7:30 p.m. with funeral services to follow. Cremation will be private. www.powellfh.com - See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/newsday/obit...

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#894 Aug 18, 2013
Anthony C. Forgione November 29, 1964 to June 12, 2013

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#895 Aug 19, 2013
Southeast Florida was, before the U.S. government moved in, the pill mill capital of the U.S. Anthony C. Forgione, who died at 48 in June 2013, was a kingpin of steroid sales. Boca Raton neighbors reported an influx of visitors at his home, people who would wait for hours yet depart the moment Forgione arrived. The Boca Raton police fired Forgione in 2003 for lack of attention and steroid sales

Steroids happen to be both scourge and savior for police. This is meant as no disrespect, because police everwhere tend to feel better prepared for their demanding work when armed with steroids.

When Toni met Anthony Forgione at the gym, his steroid business was prospering. It was a time when both Bob and Toni had taken up weight lifting. Bob reported that Toni could press 140 pounds. Bob had ripped his right shoulder socket and was due at the surgeon's office for repair the week of Toni's death.

A week before Toni's murder, Bob was rebuffed when he suggested a merger with Peter Sutton, a concrete contractor. Bob reported that he left the house that day in his red Expedition and felt like committing suicide.

Toni's friendship with Forgione was reported to the Palm Beach County Sheriff during an interview with the day, gym manager. At the time, the Sheriff's department had to be aware that some of its officers were buying steroids from Forgione.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff, unbelievably, never followed up in interviewing Forgione, who would have known Toni's state of mind better than most everyone.

That Tuesday, the day of the murder, Toni withdrew $5,000 from the Bank of America and she visited the gym for a short time, unbeknowst to Bob. This was her second straight day at the gym, unusual for Toni. She did not stay long enough to work out, so what was her purpose?

Did the withdrawal have any connection to the purchase of steroids? Did steroids have anything to do with the murder?

Psychiatric complications of steroid use include manic behavior and psychosis including hallucinations and delusions. Aggressive behavior is common and is often known as "roid rage."

Since much of this post is connecting certain facts together where the predicate has been elusive, I enlist the Board's help in guiding me if anything posted is in error. This is, I hope, a starting point to more detail from readers. 48 Hours, this is not established material for TV.

Assistant Prosecutor Burns never raised the Forgione angle of this case, which supports Suzye Heartsong's charge that the Palm Beach County Sheriff was going after DNA money regardless of case against Bob. When an agency stays away from an area that promises a bonanza of evidence, there's got to be some reason.

Federal government grants to pursue cases with advancing DNA technology was, no doubt, Palm Beach

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#896 Aug 20, 2013
Forgione was a magnet to women. Despite his scrapes with the law over steroid sales and shop lifting, Forgione was named Relationship Manager by the Hudson Valley Bank, a position grouped with Bank's Officers. The bank advertised its reach as "Westchester, Manhattan, Queens and the Bronx."

The Bank's quarter page ad appeared in the 2006-2007 edition of the Westchester Women's Bar Association newsletter. Forgione was named as their Bank contact.

So, you put together Toni Heartsong with her known friend at the gym, Anthony C. Forgione, the famous weight lifter. Forgione was guiding Toni and Bob, who had also taken up weight lifting. Predictably Forgione pushed steroids at the gym as a means of bulking up. Seriously into the drug, Forgione likely did not over-prescribe to newcomers.

Now Forgione is dead at 48. What happened over 10 years earlier? Toni was murdered. We can presume Forgione died early because of steroid use. Was Toni murdered out of her known difference with Bob Did that Tuesday discussion lead to argument, then hysteria on account of steroid rage?

Two trial witnesses testified to angry scenes where Bob's conduct was abnormally over the top. How does a former Hippi transform to angry fireworks?

Is this the gentleman Bob had in mind when he told police that Toni wasn't faithful? Or did Bob fabricate the charge? The record does reveal a Toni in need of male attention.

They say, if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it must be a duck.

Again input is sought, also criticsm. Remember readers, we want this to be the top thread on an unsolved crime. We also want to let this story go after all the facts are laid out.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#897 Oct 5, 2013
Nice to see this thread dissolving away, but I still have one more line of questioning. On that Tuesday, September 26, 2000, Tony withdrew $5,000 from the Bank of America.

Although Toni had worked out the previous day, she went to the gym on that Wednesday, unusual, but did not exercise. We do know that Anthony Forgione, who attended that gym (most likely Jupiter Fitness Center), sold steroids.

Steroid sales started in gyms, with gym rats, the largest market place.

Although the Palm Beach Sheriff concluded that nothing was taken, except for the murder weapon, the Tofu knife, whatever happened to the $5,000? Nothing was brought out about this very relevant subject anywhere in the case.

Did that money go to steroids? Is this why Toni could press 140 pounds and why Bob had pulled his right shoulder socket while weight lifting? "Roid rage" has a long history of violence. Is this why a former hippi would react with such anger?

Another point worth mulling: Susie Goldstein has placed her first meeting with Robert Hearatsong anywhere from 3 months after Toni's death to 3 years. Her skating time schedule makes the meeting suspect. Some have posted the opinion that the two knew each other before the crime. Whenever they met, I believe Suzye had nothing to do with the crime.

Following this scenario, if Bob met Suzye before the muder, he would have seen a successful business woman with a business plan to make between $500,000 and $1,000,000 per year. Like any good business owner, Susie's money would come from the sales of her well-trained associates.

At the same time, Bob was saddled with hands-on, hard work as head of his water feature company. He wanted to follow Susie's business plan, proposing to Toni a merger with concrete- specialist Robert Sutton 10 days before the murder.

Toni nixed the idea, throwing Bob into depression. According to him, he drove away in his red Expedition, feeling like committing suicide.

So, according to this theory, Bob discerned two different situations: 1) Continuing his business where he had to do much of the heavy work while sharing 50% of profits with Toni, who he regarded as not pulling her weight and 2) Merging with a successful business women, where millions would pour in with minimal effort.

When he returned home on September 26, 2000 at 1 PM, the front door deadbolt was unusually locked. Apparently Toni did not want to be surprised Bob found Toni in the master bedroom, as she tossed her vibrator on the ground and pulled up her undergarments.

From suicidal ideation, Bob's anger turned outward. By ignoring the $5,000 and steroid angle, the Palm Beach County Sheriff failed to do a complete investigation.

Under this scenario, one more item would have been taken from the crime scene: Toni's alleged purchase of steroids that same day.

Again 48 Hours, this is not TV material but an attempt via posting to involved other posters and their knowledg. Gang, feel free to shoot down the theories or add to them. The idea is, through the back and forth of posting, to be educated.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#899 Oct 5, 2013
Strike Robert Sutton for Peter Sutton above.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#900 Oct 11, 2013
We're coming down the wire, as I set forth the remaining details.

Neighbor and witness Carol Parkman testified that she not only heard the Heartsongs arguing that day at around 1 PM but observed a white truck in the driveway.

Their accountant, Linda Armstrong, weighed in, making a joke about Bob's red Expedition turning white, as if senior-citizen, Parkman's mind was failing in perception.

At trial, ear-witness Parkman testified credibly, though fear had altered her prior testimony. I believed her when she testified that fear drove her wobbling, prior testimony.

Unfortunately, Assistant Prosecutor Barbara Burns did not do her homework on fearful witnesses, because she could have easily produced expert psychologists who would have testified about the impact of fear on testimony. That piece of testimony would have made Parkman's prior, shifting testimony understandable to the jury. As it was, the jury could not hang its hat on Parkman's testimony.

Carol Parkman's husband offered some corroboration. Though he had not heard the Heartsongs arguing, he did hear a scraping sound coming from the Heartsong home, which was the tail bed of the white truck.

We know that Bob Heartsong left his red Expedition at the Delray job site when he was not there.

So how did the white truck come into play? A second person, not necessarily involved in the crime, helped Bob with the white truck. Most likely a rental, it was purposefully unlike any of Bob's vehicles.

As I first picked up on the white truck observed by Carol Parkman, I assumed it was a company vehicle. Within this thread, I raised this theory. Suzye Heartsong responded that the Heartsong company did not own a white truck.

How would she know that? How would she be privy to Bob's inventory of company vehicles at the time of the murder? How many of us owning companies with several vehicles discuss all their specifications with others outside the business?

Someone procured that white truck, and the tightness of the time line leads to the conclusion that someone cooperated to surreptitiously place the white truck within easy reach of the Delray job site. And someone cooperated in driving that truck off when Bob walked back into the job site. Time was tight, because Bob, unexpected, appeared at Delray Mazda at 3:45. He was observed moving quickly and trying to reach Toni by telephone.

A few other facts. At noon, Bob entered the office, where he's reported to have conversed with a secretary. If the white truck was nearby, Bob had access to the office, land line, where he could make a telephone call that wouldn't be traced. This would have enabled him to telephone his helper in the white truck to confirm its availability.

During that period from noon to 12:15, Bob was seen walking around the work site, suggesting that he was setting himself up to leave the site surreptitiously.

Please Board, I'm thrilled to be educated on the accuracy of this post. Anyone, Heartsongs included, please feel free to illuminate us. There's nothing like the truth through back and forth posting, the raison d'etre of Tropix. Hope to get more information and wind this thread up.

“Heartsong Crime Uncovered”

Since: Oct 07

Fairway Estates, Florida

#901 Oct 12, 2013
Summarized from Previous Post Above To Correct Error

Nice to see this thread dissolving away, but I still have one more line of questioning. On that Tuesday, September 26, 2000, Tony withdrew $5,000 from the Bank of America.

Although Toni had worked out the previous day, she went to the gym on that Wednesday, unusual, but did not exercise. We do know that Anthony Forgione, who attended that gym (most likely Jupiter Fitness Center), sold steroids.
Steroid sales started in gyms, with gym rats, the largest market place.
Although the Palm Beach Sheriff concluded that nothing was taken, except for the murder weapon, the Tofu knife, whatever happened to the $5,000? Nothing was brought out about this very relevant subject anywhere in the case.

Did that money go to steroids? Is this why Toni could press 140 pounds and why Bob had pulled his right shoulder socket while weight lifting? "Roid rage" has a long history of violence. Is this why a former hippi would react with such anger?

Her skating time schedule makes the meeting suspect. Some have posted the opinion that the two knew each other before the crime. Whenever they met, I believe Suzye had nothing to do with the crime.

The 3 year mark Susye reported to the press is definitely incorrect, because we know Bob Heartsong was receiving pay from S&S Marketing, Susye's company, within the first year of Toni's death. Employees have alleged in this thread that Bob did no work for the money.
At the same time, Bob was saddled with hands-on, hard work as head of his water feature company. He wanted to follow Susie's business plan, proposing to Toni a merger with concrete- specialist Robert Sutton 10 days before the murder.

Toni nixed the idea, throwing Bob into depression. According to him, he drove away in his red Expedition, feeling like committing suicide.
So, according to this theory, Bob discerned two different situations: 1) Continuing his business where he had to do much of the heavy work while sharing 50% of profits with Toni, who he regarded as not pulling her weight and 2) Merging with a successful business women, where millions would pour in with minimal effort.

When he returned home on September 26, 2000 at 1 PM, the front door deadbolt was unusually locked. Apparently Toni did not want to be surprised Bob found Toni in the master bedroom, as she tossed her vibrator on the ground and pulled up her undergarments.
From suicidal ideation, Bob's anger turned outward. By ignoring the $5,000 and steroid angle, the Palm Beach County Sheriff failed to do a complete investigation.

Under this scenario, one more item would have been taken from the crime scene: Toni's alleged purchase of steroids that same day.
Gang, feel free to shoot down the theories or add to them. The idea is, through the back and forth of posting, to be educated.
CONDENSED

Sorry gang, another error in this post up front: "Although Toni had worked out the previous day, she went to the gym on that Wednesday, unusual, but did not exercise." STRIKE WEDNESDAY AND REPLACE IT WITH TUESDAY.
Every time I make an error, I regret it. Please gang, give me your feedback if any of you readers see errors or disagree. I so desire the back and forth of posting to be sure we end up with the truth.

Although Linda Armstrong, the Heartsong accountant, Susye Goldstein, Bob Heartsong's alleged former wife, and Alek Surkin, a 48 Hours producer who put out that beautifully produced show, starting with Bob sitting before candles, have panned my posts, I have not seen any substance to the panning. If they could make clear the details of their criticism, I'd be grateful.

Let's not denigrate, rather please lay out any details in error.
One other point comes to mind: Was the so-announced marriage between Bob Heartsong and Susye Goldstein for purposes of marital privilege in the courts, because, if married and co-habitating, Susye would be shielded from giving testimony.

Bob Sherin

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