Analysis: Israeli settlements at core...

Analysis: Israeli settlements at core of conflict

There are 87 comments on the wate.com story from Mar 21, 2013, titled Analysis: Israeli settlements at core of conflict. In it, wate.com reports that:

24, 2013 file photo shows a general view of the Jewish settlement of Maaleh Adumim, on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

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“Obama Shames the USA”

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#2 Mar 21, 2013
A priest, a Rabbi and a Muslim walk into a bar.
The bartender says "Hello Mr. President. Why, you look just like the Devil himself."

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#3 Mar 21, 2013
if the charter of the other side says they want israel wiped off the map, clearly it is not the settlements that are the problem.
henry

Las Vegas, NV

#5 Mar 21, 2013
Security, not settlements is core of conflict.

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

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#6 Mar 21, 2013
The core of the conflicts is the Muslims are a pack of mad dogs.

They need put down.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#7 Mar 21, 2013
Israeli settlements at core of conflict, except that Israel has been building the settlements to pressure the Palestinians to negotiate.

Israeli settlements at core of conflict, except that the Arab world has pledged to "drive Israel into the sea."

Israeli settlements at core of conflict, except that Arab nations refuse to recognize, and therefore open diplomacy with Israel.
Historian

Paducah, KY

#8 Jun 6, 2013
Israel is a dangerous little viper, and if the U.S.A. does not break free of our entangling alliance with it the viper will eventually turn on us and kill us.
Nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#9 Jun 6, 2013
If the settlements are THE problem than why was their an issue before 1967 when Israel did not control the Wb, Gaza and parts of Jerusalem???
When Jordan and Egypt controlled these areas why did the Arabs of the land not ask for a state?
Why does the PLO National Charter 1964 clearly state that they give up their right to WB, Gaza and Himmah (jerusalem area)?
The times when Jewish building was at its highest is when the Palestinians sat down to talk. Look at the signing of Oslo for example.

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#10 Jun 7, 2013
The core of the conflict is the radical muslims want the country of Israel gone and the Jewish people gone. End of story....

No compromise, land deal, border change, producing of a "palestinian" state, or any other dealing will create any form of lasting peace.

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#11 Jun 7, 2013
Israel is surrounded by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 times her size, 60 times her population and ALL the oil. Is it really a threat? The Palestinians will never be satisfied until the Jews are gone. And vice versa with the Israelis. Will any compromise ever work? Dubious. Where does that leave us???
Oliver Cromwell

Cleveleys, UK

#12 Jun 7, 2013
What i want to know is why some New York Cab driver who just happens to be Jewish has more right to live in a Country than an Arab who was born there and his Family for Centuries ,and those settlers are insane an violent all they understand is violence in return
Gray

Powhatan, VA

#13 Jun 7, 2013
GoodNewz wrote:
if the charter of the other side says they want israel wiped off the map, clearly it is not the settlements that are the problem.
No one has said anything about "Wiping Israel off the map....." except for lying Hasbarats trying to excuse Zionist Aggression, Genocide and Criminal Atrocities
Gray

Colonial Heights, VA

#15 Jun 7, 2013
REPETITION, REPETITION, REPETITION
The three elements necessary for communicating with the "slow" or the deliberately obtuse
Nutjobs here wrote:
If the settlements are THE problem than why was their an issue before 1967 when Israel did not control the Wb, Gaza and parts of Jerusalem???
When Jordan and Egypt controlled these areas why did the Arabs of the land not ask for a state?
Why does the PLO National Charter 1964 clearly state that they give up their right to WB, Gaza and Himmah (jerusalem area)?
The times when Jewish building was at its highest is when the Palestinians sat down to talk. Look at the signing of Oslo for example.
THE PROBLEM IS:

ISRAEL IS ONE, BIG, FOREIGN, BELLIGERENT "SETTLEMENT"

The problem is the criminal, arrogant way in which Israel was established via FOREIGN Zionist Terrorists invading already inhabited Arab Land:

"Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.

"How Israel was Founded"
http://www.eutimes.net/2008/04/israel-founded...

EXCERPT "After leaders of the Third Reich committed atrocities against the Jews during World War II, they were tried, hanged and buried, both physically and under the contempt of humanity.

The opposite happened to the bloody and arrogant terrorists of Israel.

Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, and Sharon were all elected to leadership of the nation.

This reflected the anti-Palestinian, terrorism-friendly mentality of many Israeli voters.

The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem documents, from United Nations records, more than 650 attacks by Jewish settlers and the Israeli military against Arabs between 1948 and 1998.” CONTINUED
_______

Today's Zionist Israelis are not satisfied with what they have already stolen via FOREIGN Invasion, Genocide, Aggression & Land Theft.

Israel has never been serious about making Peace because it refuses to declare final boundaries (Israel has no Constitution)

Israel has always relied on PROVOKE THEN DESTROY/STEAL/MASSACRE

"Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them".
[Israeli General Moshe Daylan]

NOW:

“Israel's right needs perpetual” war”
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/...
EXCERPT “Israel needs both an external and an internal enemy, a constant sense of emergency - because peace, whether with the Palestinians in the territories or the Palestinians in Israel, is liable to weaken it to the point of existential danger.” CONTINUED

Israel has no incentive to make peace because it has the "Big Guns", has and continues to Steal Arab Land with impunity.

Only a more intense Resistance or outside pressure can bring the Zionist Bully to SERIOUS negotiations.

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#19 Jun 7, 2013
Gray wrote:
REPETITION, REPETITION, REPETITION

THE PROBLEM IS:

Gery's quotes are too long.
It matters little if you think that the formation of Israel was just, right, legal, kosher, proper, or in any way in your opinion justifiable.... Israel is here and a force that will not be moved.

They were given land and other nations tried to take it from them. IF you think anyone dares try again, by force, trickery, negotiation, deceit, terror... whatever.... they will be sadly disappointed and have great loss.

Israel wants only peace and to live their lives in that condition.
Oliver Cromwell

Cleveleys, UK

#20 Jun 7, 2013
Exitsign wrote:
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It matters little if you think that the formation of Israel was just, right, legal, kosher, proper, or in any way in your opinion justifiable.... Israel is here and a force that will not be moved.
They were given land and other nations tried to take it from them. IF you think anyone dares try again, by force, trickery, negotiation, deceit, terror... whatever.... they will be sadly disappointed and have great loss.
Israel wants only peace and to live their lives in that condition.
They were given land by people who didn't own it,they didn't bother to ask what the people who already lived there wanted,then a bunch of Zionist nutters came from all over the place they massacred and cleansed Arabs using terrorism,its really as simple as that.
Gray

Colonial Heights, VA

#21 Jun 7, 2013
Exitsign wrote:
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It matters little if you think that the formation of Israel was just, right, legal, kosher, proper, or in any way in your opinion justifiable.... Israel is here and a force that will not be moved.
They were given land and other nations tried to take it from them. IF you think anyone dares try again, by force, trickery, negotiation, deceit, terror... whatever.... they will be sadly disappointed and have great loss.
Israel wants only peace and to live their lives in that condition.
I'll agree that Israel is an ugly reality with some redeaming, rational ethical and decent Israeli Jews who oppose the current right wing Zionist Regime

BUT

Israel does not and never has wanted peace.......How much proof do you need other than continued "Settlement" Land Grabs

PS The Zionist enclave is in need of recruits, that should tell you something of their own disgust with their criminal anti-peace policies:

“In desperate search for recruits, Israeli army targets foreigners”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middl...

“Nerds, Jocks & Conscientious Objectors: The Hidden World of Israel’s High School War Resisters”
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/05/19-0
EXCERPTS “Saying no to conscription and occupation
They are part of growing number of Israeli movements working to end the occupation from the inside.
With a shrug of her shoulders, Gur describes the process that led to her refusal of conscription.“I found out that what they taught me in school was different from this reality. I went to the West Bank to protests and saw the occupation. I started to realize I didn’t want to serve.” CONTINUED

It seems like the only people who think that Israel wants peace are the brainwashed, Ziono Media Victims stuck on US Ziono-Media's monopoly:

“DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php...
EXCERPT: "It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign.“CONTINUED

“The AZC's internal "Information and Public Relations Department" reports.”
http://irmep.org/ila/azc/

EXCERPT:“Between 1962-1963 the Senate Foreign Relations Committee subpoenaed internal reports of the American Zionist Council during its investigation into the activities of registered agents of foreign principals.”CONTINUED 

The following reports detail how the American Zionist Council used the funding in a sophisticated campaign to cajole and intimidate news media, subvert open debate about Israel and undermine reporting about key issues of the day...
The Senate investigation closed down the conduit, but the extensive propaganda activities still go on." CONTINUED

“SIX ZIONIST COMPANIES OWN 96% OF THE WORLD’S
MEDIA”
http://www.cnewsworld.com/world-news/six-zion... ’s-media/
“The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the price of collective stupidity.”

QUOTE:
“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.  I just care that we get to keep running them.”         Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.

“Fox News is rabidly pro-Israel”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/19/30426...
Gray

Colonial Heights, VA

#22 Jun 7, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text>
They were given land by people who didn't own it,they didn't bother to ask what the people who already lived there wanted,then a bunch of Zionist nutters came from all over the place they massacred and cleansed Arabs using terrorism,its really as simple as that.
BINGO!!! YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT

For Example:

Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.

AND THE ZIO-NUTS:

"How Israel was Founded"
http://www.eutimes.net/2008/04/israel-founded...

EXCERPT "After leaders of the Third Reich committed atrocities against the Jews during World War II, they were tried, hanged and buried, both physically and under the contempt of humanity.

The opposite happened to the bloody and arrogant terrorists of Israel.

Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, and Sharon were all elected to leadership of the nation.

This reflected the anti-Palestinian, terrorism-friendly mentality of many Israeli voters.

The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem documents, from United Nations records, more than 650 attacks by Jewish settlers and the Israeli military against Arabs between 1948 and 1998.” CONTINUED

......WHO ARE/WERE FORMER & CURRENT WAR CRIMINALS:

“War Criminals From WW II Probably Living in Israel”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/08/war-c...
EXCERPTS “A recent Associated Press article reveals that about 500,000 Jews were part of the Communist Soviet Union’s Red Army and that about 7,000 of them are now living in Israel.

“Judea/the international Jewish community was the first to declare war against Germany less than two months after Hitler was made chancellor. England and France were next to follow six years latter.
“The history of the Red Army is despicable. They played an important part in the Holocaust of the Ukrainian people in which, according to the well documented book The Harvest of Sorrow by Robert Conquest, 14.5 million people were murdered by the Communists through starvation, firing squads and being worked to death in concentration camps/gulags

“Add to this the butchering the Red Army did during and after World War II which includes massive raping rampages against German, Polish, Ukrainian and even Russian girls and women as is documented in Anthony Beevor’s powerful book The Fall of Berlin 1945 and we quickly see being a veteran of the Red Army is nothing to be proud of.

“It’s not too surprising that the Red Army would have many Jewish members. After all, the Red Army was started by the Communist Jew Lev Davidovich Bronshtein aka Leon Trotsky.


“Of 384 commissars more than 300 were Jewish and 264 of them were from the US (Records of the American Expeditionary Forces (WW I, War Records Division of the National Archives, Record Group 120.3.2).” CONTINUED

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#23 Jun 7, 2013
Gray wrote:
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I'll agree that Israel is an ugly reality with some redeaming, rational ethical and decent Israeli Jews who oppose the current right wing Zionist Regime
I did not say this.

How can you agree with something you quoted and reiterate a totally different thought??

Must be the way most of your posts and quotes are... Taking one thing, quoting it out of context to suit your agenda....

well done.

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#25 Jun 7, 2013
Its a huge 'grey" area.

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#27 Jun 7, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
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They were given land by people who didn't own it,they didn't bother to ask what the people who already lived there wanted,then a bunch of Zionist nutters came from all over the place they massacred and cleansed Arabs using terrorism,its really as simple as that.
you don't own that land in england. it rightfully belongs to the angles and saxons and other germanic tribes. so give it back, you hypocrite!

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#28 Jun 7, 2013
Gray wrote:
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No one has said anything about "Wiping Israel off the map....." except for lying Hasbarats trying to excuse Zionist Aggression, Genocide and Criminal Atrocities
palestinians want all or nothing. so, looks like they end up with nothing.

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