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Than give up their drugs and booze.
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How many homeless throughout the land could trace their situations to making bad choices ? Of course we'll never have a perfect answer to that question but the point is that the choices one makes in life more than not lead to where one ends up.
We all know that a certain number of homeless will have their stories of being "dealt a bad hand" but that's not every single one of them. No, there are many, many homeless people who had their chances to do something positive with their lives.
I would bet the ranch that you'll find among the homeless one time school kids who thought it best to screw off all day, be disrurtive in class, smoke, take drugs, hang around the "cool" kids, and maybe just blow off school altogether. I bet you'll find among the homeless a total lack of personal discipline, always so sure they'll find the quickest and easiest solution to life's issues. I bet you'll find among the homeless a high propensity to focus on blaming everyone and everything as the culprits to their lot in life. I bet you'll find among the homeless that many of them had their chances one day a long time ago but chose to be the lazy grasshopper and not the industrious ant.( If you have no clue in reference to that timeless fable then shame on you.)
Again, it is well established that there are indeed homeless people in our society with problems and circumstances beyond their control. They deserve our sympathies. On the other hand, they don't all fall into that category either. Shame on them, you read that right, shame on them for having the opportunities available to them and squandering those chances by not exercising the personal disciplines necessary for even moderate success. Not all, but far too many decided to choose their own path to self destruction.
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Barry wrote:
Than give up their drugs and booze.
you have to pass a breathalyzer to get a bed in the City Mission, idiot
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Feb 4, 2013
 
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How many homeless throughout the land could trace their situations to making bad choices ? Of course we'll never have a perfect answer to that question but the point is that the choices one makes in life more than not lead to where one ends up.
We all know that a certain number of homeless will have their stories of being "dealt a bad hand" but that's not every single one of them. No, there are many, many homeless people who had their chances to do something positive with their lives.
I would bet the ranch that you'll find among the homeless one time school kids who thought it best to screw off all day, be disrurtive in class, smoke, take drugs, hang around the "cool" kids, and maybe just blow off school altogether. I bet you'll find among the homeless a total lack of personal discipline, always so sure they'll find the quickest and easiest solution to life's issues. I bet you'll find among the homeless a high propensity to focus on blaming everyone and everything as the culprits to their lot in life. I bet you'll find among the homeless that many of them had their chances one day a long time ago but chose to be the lazy grasshopper and not the industrious ant.( If you have no clue in reference to that timeless fable then shame on you.)
Again, it is well established that there are indeed homeless people in our society with problems and circumstances beyond their control. They deserve our sympathies. On the other hand, they don't all fall into that category either. Shame on them, you read that right, shame on them for having the opportunities available to them and squandering those chances by not exercising the personal disciplines necessary for even moderate success. Not all, but far too many decided to choose their own path to self destruction.
economic disparity has NOTHING to do with it! Corporations outsourcing American Jobs overseas to be done by slave labor have NOTHING to do with it! Look the other way, nothing to see here! Most factory jobs are gone and its everybodys fault but the richest 1% greedy pigs! Oh, and here is your deed to the Brooklyn bridge.
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Feb 4, 2013
 
tim leary is often homeless because he is mentally ill.
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Shit soaked in alcohol doesn't freeze
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Herbert Hooer wrote:
<quoted text>economic disparity has NOTHING to do with it! Corporations outsourcing American Jobs overseas to be done by slave labor have NOTHING to do with it! Look the other way, nothing to see here! Most factory jobs are gone and its everybodys fault but the richest 1% greedy pigs! Oh, and here is your deed to the Brooklyn bridge.
Calm down there Herbie ! Homelessness is much less a function of your tirade about "greedy pigs" and a whole lot more about the multitude of poor choices made throughout one's lifetime. I know it's tough to hear the truth, but there it is.

As one well off friend of mine would say " While those angry and jealous of my success were at the bars, I was in the library. " It really does matter what you do with your chances and your time.

Blame the wealthy all you want but I bet if given the chance to be counted among the 1% yourself you'd take that in a heart beat. Unless of course you claim to be a man with high convictions and not a hypocrit. Better to hate the wealthy and successful than be one of them. Right Herb ?
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Drugs and booze just fuel the foreclosures don't they Mr. Nasty? What about those living with relatives because loss of work and unfortunately the loss of their home and vehicles?
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Feb 4, 2013
 
The Horatio Albert myth is bullcrap and always has been. The vast majority of the 1% got there by winning the ovarian lottery. The vast majority of those now living below the poverty line in Erie got there by having their jobs outsourced. And yes, many of them do vote.
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Drugs and booze just fuel the foreclosures don't they Mr. Nasty? What about those living with relatives because loss of work and unfortunately the loss of their home and vehicles?
booze/drugs just putmore grease on the flagpole. Lubricates the slide to the bottom.
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Drugs and booze just fuel the foreclosures don't they Mr. Nasty? What about those living with relatives because loss of work and unfortunately the loss of their home and vehicles?

Drugs,booze,screwing off in school,hanging around damaging people,etc. etc. all play a huge factor in the path to homelessness. I never claim those are the only reasons. There are many factors such as birth defects,illness,loss of jobs etc that do indeed play their roles.
That being said,homelessness seems to ride the excuse of the latter rather than the former just about every time. Not all homeless people are victims of circumstances beyond their control. Not by a long shot.
As far as job loss being a reason for homelessness, I can empathsize to those situations to an extent. It also reveals how often people are not versatile enough to weather such a scenerio. I'm sure this will hit a nerve but scraping by in high school or thinking that your college degree is enough to buy your ticket in life is sheer foolishness. It was in another time. That time no longer exists. Those diplomas and degrees are a dime a dozen today.
So many fail to create options for themselves which often entails being bold enough to pack up one's family and belongings and move to areas of better opportunity. Erie people have incredible difficulty wrapping their brains around the concept of moving out of the ten mile radius from which they were born. And yes, there are many places away from Erie, out of state, that afford better opportunities.
What would you say to someone living in a place that had no more water ? I bet you'd encourage them to pack up and seek out where this vital necessity exists. As difficult as that may sound it sometimes is the only option. Erie people will resist to the death the prospect of trying something else. No sir, they'll tough it out here no matter what. And so they often meet the unfortunate consequences.
Choices and options my friend. Choices and options are vital in today's world. With few exceptions,it's our behaviors and self discipline that set the stage for what happens to us.
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Drugs,booze,screwing off in school,hanging around damaging people,etc. etc. all play a huge factor in the path to homelessness. I never claim those are the only reasons. There are many factors such as birth defects,illness,loss of jobs etc that do indeed play their roles.
That being said,homelessness seems to ride the excuse of the latter rather than the former just about every time. Not all homeless people are victims of circumstances beyond their control. Not by a long shot.
As far as job loss being a reason for homelessness, I can empathsize to those situations to an extent. It also reveals how often people are not versatile enough to weather such a scenerio. I'm sure this will hit a nerve but scraping by in high school or thinking that your college degree is enough to buy your ticket in life is sheer foolishness. It was in another time. That time no longer exists. Those diplomas and degrees are a dime a dozen today.
So many fail to create options for themselves which often entails being bold enough to pack up one's family and belongings and move to areas of better opportunity. Erie people have incredible difficulty wrapping their brains around the concept of moving out of the ten mile radius from which they were born. And yes, there are many places away from Erie, out of state, that afford better opportunities.
What would you say to someone living in a place that had no more water ? I bet you'd encourage them to pack up and seek out where this vital necessity exists. As difficult as that may sound it sometimes is the only option. Erie people will resist to the death the prospect of trying something else. No sir, they'll tough it out here no matter what. And so they often meet the unfortunate consequences.
Choices and options my friend. Choices and options are vital in today's world. With few exceptions,it's our behaviors and self discipline that set the stage for what happens to us.
One thing I like about the homeless is that they don't tell others what they should do with their lives ;)

BTW why aren't you a billionaire? Same reason they're not at the top of their game.

Here's a slogan I carry on my pocket notebook: "The first quality of a soldier is consistency in the endurance of fatigue and hardship. Napoleon Bonaparte".

I bet you have a meltdown if your delivered pizza is cold ;)
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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One thing I like about the homeless is that they don't tell others what they should do with their lives ;)
BTW why aren't you a billionaire? Same reason they're not at the top of their game.
Here's a slogan I carry on my pocket notebook: "The first quality of a soldier is consistency in the endurance of fatigue and hardship. Napoleon Bonaparte".
I bet you have a meltdown if your delivered pizza is cold ;)
Where to begin with the likes of you......
Let's see, first of all, I don't "tell others what they should do with their lives". I'm not in charge of others. They can do as they please. I just offer my thoughts as to what severly limits many people from becoming more successful.
Why am I not a billionaire ? Whoa,settle down there champ. A Billionaire ! Are you implying that someone with solid advice should therefore only be a billionaire himself ? Maybe you think only billionaires are qualified to offer sound advice. Advice like don't do drugs, work hard in school, practice personal responsibility. Only billionaires ought to say those things according to your standards ?

Nice quote from the "Little Emperor". Sounds like he advocates staying the same while enduring hardships. Of course Napoleon wouldn't want his soldiers to have it any better lest they realize there can be more to life than struggling on and on. If his soldiers weren't kept down,and reinforced with words of this being so noble, perhaps they would have achieved better for themselves as well. Throughout history this has always been the greatest fear of oppressive rulers..... people no longer needing oppressive rulers.
Here's a great quote for you along this same theme... "What luck for rulers that men do not think ! " Know how said that ? Some guy from Germany in the 1930's. Some guy named Adolph.
So do I take it from you that it's better to stay down than to do the things that will put you on the path to a better life ? Sadly, many operate that way, wanting their problems to be solved by others.
Finally, I'm not sure why the cold delivered pizza comment. My guess is that was a weak attempt to say I'm tightly wound and live in some sort of perfect only world. Is that close to what you were implying ? If so it was comical because I order my servants to make my pizza in the cookhouse and they deliver it piping hot every time. Satisfied ?
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Where to begin with the likes of you......
Let's see, first of all, I don't "tell others what they should do with their lives". I'm not in charge of others. They can do as they please. I just offer my thoughts as to what severly limits many people from becoming more successful.
Why am I not a billionaire ? Whoa,settle down there champ. A Billionaire ! Are you implying that someone with solid advice should therefore only be a billionaire himself ? Maybe you think only billionaires are qualified to offer sound advice. Advice like don't do drugs, work hard in school, practice personal responsibility. Only billionaires ought to say those things according to your standards ?
Nice quote from the "Little Emperor". Sounds like he advocates staying the same while enduring hardships. Of course Napoleon wouldn't want his soldiers to have it any better lest they realize there can be more to life than struggling on and on. If his soldiers weren't kept down,and reinforced with words of this being so noble, perhaps they would have achieved better for themselves as well. Throughout history this has always been the greatest fear of oppressive rulers..... people no longer needing oppressive rulers.
Here's a great quote for you along this same theme... "What luck for rulers that men do not think ! " Know how said that ? Some guy from Germany in the 1930's. Some guy named Adolph.
So do I take it from you that it's better to stay down than to do the things that will put you on the path to a better life ? Sadly, many operate that way, wanting their problems to be solved by others.
Finally, I'm not sure why the cold delivered pizza comment. My guess is that was a weak attempt to say I'm tightly wound and live in some sort of perfect only world. Is that close to what you were implying ? If so it was comical because I order my servants to make my pizza in the cookhouse and they deliver it piping hot every time. Satisfied ?
You are pompous and f'ing nuts.
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You are pompous and f'ing nuts.
I'm f'ing nuts too but at least I'm not pompous. Man, I hate that crap! In fact, I feel a knifin' comin' on. LOL. Just some more of that Erie humor ;)
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<quoted text>you have to pass a breathalyzer to get a bed in the City Mission, idiot
That's why they choose to freeze outdoors.
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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One thing I like about the homeless is that they don't tell others what they should do with their lives ;)
BTW why aren't you a billionaire? Same reason they're not at the top of their game.
Here's a slogan I carry on my pocket notebook: "The first quality of a soldier is consistency in the endurance of fatigue and hardship. Napoleon Bonaparte".
I bet you have a meltdown if your delivered pizza is cold ;)
Just read that the Army is developing "resilience traininng" to help cujt back on the growing number of suicides. I learned resilience from my Uncle Frank. He said "Tim, never let the bastards get you down" I said "Which ones are the bastards, Uncle Frank"? He replied "All of 'em".:-)
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Drugs and booze just fuel the foreclosures don't they Mr. Nasty? What about those living with relatives because loss of work and unfortunately the loss of their home and vehicles?
Quit whining and do something about it. That's the difference between those who fail and those who succeed.
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Quit whining and do something about it. That's the difference between those who fail and those who succeed.
Thank you.
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Quit whining and do something about it. That's the difference between those who fail and those who succeed.
Then you'll like this which I posted before.(A little crude upfront but if you get past that it is along your lines and in a way, the bottom line. Check it out.)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-th...

Having said that, that I get it and may agree with it, I think humility is important. If you are humble you don't feel like everyone owes you but at the same time you don't feel like you have a right to crush anybody's spirit because they can't get their shit together at this point in time.

What I meant by the Napoleon quote is that it's good to be able to take what life throws at you, yet not wish to dominate others from a holier than thou pose.

Compete your heart out, respect all in the game and feel for those who don't understand what the game (of life) entails. And perhaps most importantly, don't let big mouths throw you off your game as if you can't be as worthy as them.

I like the idea of a humble person sticking it up the ass of "the man". Little need be said. We all watched Underdog as kids ;)

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