CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

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LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#5534 Oct 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I'm an American. My people are those that came here to this country legally, so we know what diseases they might have, what their criminal background is, what education level they have, and I'm for legal immigration from decent people from all over the world. Even some legal immigrtion I'm not in favor of like all the people that come in refugee status. You might want to google what our state is spending in our prisons on illegal immigrants from Mexico alone.
that is why you need to vote YES on 36....

empty our jails of non-violent offenders.

it already has 70% support, from across the spectrum.

I too am for a path to legal citizenhood...

dont down the illegals though riccard, as farm workers??

they are indispensable in the central valley..

picking olives and other hands and knees harvesting work, that americans wont touch for the wage their are paying them..

seasonal migrant workers are part and parcel of our multi billion dollar farming industry here in california.

peace.
TunaCharlie

Covina, CA

#5535 Oct 14, 2012
I've seen these types of posts before.

Thy don't impress me much either.

“Boing, boing, boing, boing,”

Since: Aug 08

..boing, boing, boing, boing,.

#5536 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
that is why you need to vote YES on 36....
empty our jails of non-violent offenders.
it already has 70% support, from across the spectrum.
I too am for a path to legal citizenhood...
dont down the illegals though riccard, as farm workers??
they are indispensable in the central valley..
picking olives and other hands and knees harvesting work, that americans wont touch for the wage their are paying them..
seasonal migrant workers are part and parcel of our multi billion dollar farming industry here in california.
peace.
Smelly Hippie.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#5537 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
that is why you need to vote YES on 36....
empty our jails of non-violent offenders.
it already has 70% support, from across the spectrum.
I too am for a path to legal citizenhood...
dont down the illegals though riccard, as farm workers??
they are indispensable in the central valley..
picking olives and other hands and knees harvesting work, that americans wont touch for the wage their are paying them..
seasonal migrant workers are part and parcel of our multi billion dollar farming industry here in california.
peace.
My ancestors came to America in the early 1900's, they picked in the fields. Now maybe if they got free food and stamps and housing and healthcare, they would not work in the fields. I say it's minimum wage, it's union, so let those that can work like the lazy gangbangers and healthy people begging on the streets go to work.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#5538 Oct 14, 2012
Im sure if they had the chance to get a little help??, if it had been availible?....and if times were tight??.....

......it wouldnt have been so shameful for them to get hand up from their new country??

things like this are not so black and white, like when biden cornered ryan on the stim money he requested from bidens office.

I didnt quite understand what that last sentence meant??

minimum wage is almost NEVER a union job!! oui?

as for the streets?? some people just like to camp, permanently....they are JUST LIKE THAT, for one reason or another...

..yet many people who taste the streets are there temporarily, as being homeless sucks, and everyone who is not deranged knows it........unless your on the endless(guitar playinn) road journey or something??
TunaCharlie

Covina, CA

#5539 Oct 14, 2012
All mighty has other plans.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#5540 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
wow!! they realize capital injection is much better than JUST a tax cut for the rich...
According the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus cost more than the Iraq war. The only thing it succeeded in doing was to push the country deeper into the fiscal hole, leaving us stuck with the weakest recovery since World War II. Mr. Obama promises more of the same in a second term.

It can’t work. British economist John Maynard Keynes was the father of the theory that government spending could create prosperity. Since his death in 1946, this damaging idea has resulted in the transfer of trillions of dollars of wealth away from the people who earned it and into the hands of bureaucrats. Such redistribution of income cannot result in economic growth.

Spending for the sake of spending makes no sense when it comes to a family budget, and federal budgets are no different. That extra government spending must either be financed by higher taxes or by increased debt. Higher taxes mean that taxpayers will have a lower net income, forcing them to reduce their spending. All debt has to be repaid eventually — and the most likely scenario is higher taxes will hit in the future when the debt comes due. Either way, there are no long-term gains to the economy. The only lasting result is increased debt and a larger government which weigh down the economy.

The stimulus bill, known as the American Reconstruction and Recovery Act (ARRA), provides strong evidence that Keynesian solutions are nothing more than a spending shell game. Stanford’s John Taylor, in a study published in the Journal of Economic Literature, followed the stimulus money. He found “if there had been no temporary stimulus payments to individuals or families, their total consumption would have been about the same. And if there had been no ARRA grants to states and localities, their total expenditures would have been about the same.” That is, the economy would have done at least as well had Mr. Obama’s legislation failed.

Hasn't worked because its marxism-socialism-communism-me rcantilism which loots the public and private sectors , using the public power for personal and private gain!
It always fails! Obama is a failure! The Democrat Party is a failure! And they're trying to drag the rest of us down to heII with them!
Boycott Marriott

Covina, CA

#5541 Oct 14, 2012
No more worms for you rickiey tickiey
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#5542 Oct 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>According the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus cost more than the Iraq war. The only thing it succeeded in doing was to push the country deeper into the fiscal hole, leaving us stuck with the weakest recovery since World War II. Mr. Obama promises more of the same in a second term.
It can’t work. British economist John Maynard Keynes was the father of the theory that government spending could create prosperity. Since his death in 1946, this damaging idea has resulted in the transfer of trillions of dollars of wealth away from the people who earned it and into the hands of bureaucrats. Such redistribution of income cannot result in economic growth.
Spending for the sake of spending makes no sense when it comes to a family budget, and federal budgets are no different. That extra government spending must either be financed by higher taxes or by increased debt. Higher taxes mean that taxpayers will have a lower net income, forcing them to reduce their spending. All debt has to be repaid eventually — and the most likely scenario is higher taxes will hit in the future when the debt comes due. Either way, there are no long-term gains to the economy. The only lasting result is increased debt and a larger government which weigh down the economy.
The stimulus bill, known as the American Reconstruction and Recovery Act (ARRA), provides strong evidence that Keynesian solutions are nothing more than a spending shell game. Stanford’s John Taylor, in a study published in the Journal of Economic Literature, followed the stimulus money. He found “if there had been no temporary stimulus payments to individuals or families, their total consumption would have been about the same. And if there had been no ARRA grants to states and localities, their total expenditures would have been about the same.” That is, the economy would have done at least as well had Mr. Obama’s legislation failed.
Hasn't worked because its marxism-socialism-communism-me rcantilism which loots the public and private sectors , using the public power for personal and private gain!
It always fails! Obama is a failure! The Democrat Party is a failure! And they're trying to drag the rest of us down to heII with them!
talk about just throwing S**t out without a link??

the Iraq war cost tax payers two trillion dollars.....the stim was 800 billion.......get your numbers straight.

and that is just what it has cost so far.....the residual costs In iraq are staggeringly MORE than two trillions....

in otherwords?? lots of S**t got blown up...

what about all the lost income that the US government is going to have to pay to veterans and their families??? for their entire lives!!

that is real cost of war that you folks from the right NEVER< NEVER factor in OR even talk ABOUT.

keynsian econimcs is wealth redistribution, through progressive taxation of the wealthy?? and also social programs like medicare.

you guys hate that S**t and just want it all back.

so the jist I got from your last paragraph??

you think corruption ate all the stim money up??

actually?? middle class america ate it up, like they were supposed to.

and then spent it again....

all money flows back to the wealthy!! I thought you knew that.

even ryan had to admit last week at the debate that he asked for, and recieved money for wisconsin from the stim!!

big suprise there......where have you been riccard??

weve been practicing these kind of economic policies for 80 years?

are you just realized this?? and are using as a talking point??

Im guessing if you have time to write all these posts,???

that no one is going to drag you anywhere, much less hell.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#5543 Oct 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>According the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus cost more than the Iraq war. The only thing it succeeded in doing was to push the country deeper into the fiscal hole, leaving us stuck with the weakest recovery since World War II. Mr. Obama promises more of the same in a second term.
It can’t work. British economist John Maynard Keynes was the father of the theory that government spending could create prosperity. Since his death in 1946, this damaging idea has resulted in the transfer of trillions of dollars of wealth away from the people who earned it and into the hands of bureaucrats. Such redistribution of income cannot result in economic growth.
Spending for the sake of spending makes no sense when it comes to a family budget, and federal budgets are no different. That extra government spending must either be financed by higher taxes or by increased debt. Higher taxes mean that taxpayers will have a lower net income, forcing them to reduce their spending. All debt has to be repaid eventually — and the most likely scenario is higher taxes will hit in the future when the debt comes due. Either way, there are no long-term gains to the economy. The only lasting result is increased debt and a larger government which weigh down the economy.
The stimulus bill, known as the American Reconstruction and Recovery Act (ARRA), provides strong evidence that Keynesian solutions are nothing more than a spending shell game. Stanford’s John Taylor, in a study published in the Journal of Economic Literature, followed the stimulus money. He found “if there had been no temporary stimulus payments to individuals or families, their total consumption would have been about the same. And if there had been no ARRA grants to states and localities, their total expenditures would have been about the same.” That is, the economy would have done at least as well had Mr. Obama’s legislation failed.
Hasn't worked because its marxism-socialism-communism-me rcantilism which loots the public and private sectors , using the public power for personal and private gain!
It always fails! Obama is a failure! The Democrat Party is a failure! And they're trying to drag the rest of us down to heII with them!
http://www.politifact.com/trut h-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/ 25/mark-tapscott/did-stimulus- cost-more-war-iraq/
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#5544 Oct 15, 2012
SunBeam

Azusa, CA

#5545 Oct 15, 2012
Free global sunshine will be given out today.

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#5546 Oct 15, 2012
Joe wrote:
*Man-caused Global Warming (AGW) has _no_ scientific peer reviewed validity. It is basically a fraud perpetrated by people and organizations with other agendas, like cripple the developed nations with inane regulations that will do _nothing_ to change the warming or cooling of the climate which is almost entirely solar driven.
*CO2 is _not_ a "pollutant"! It is a necessary component of life on earth. The percentage CO2 in the atmosphere has been much higher in the past and life went on just fine.
*CARB is an outfit out of control, IMHO, inventing new odious regulations for their own benefit with no concern for the cost/benefit aspect of their actions. They are basically trying to perpetuate their own existence long after the major improvements of smog levels in major metropolitan areas have been achieved.
I would suggest a YES vote on Prop 23.
IO would suggest you educate yourself 97% of climate scientists agree climate change is happening. At this point, it's willful ignorance to think it's not happening.

All your need to do is look at our climate the last 10 years
AllCadda

Azusa, CA

#5547 Oct 15, 2012
It's a fact that Willard Mit Romney a LDSer's are and Commie lovers, they undermined the United States of America with Bain Capital.

They supported the muslim killings of americans with Bain Capital.

Bain Capital and Willard Mitt Romney SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL for the deaths of Americans.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#5548 Oct 15, 2012
AllCadda wrote:
It's a fact that the great obama is a Loser and Commie lovers, they undermined the United States of America with arab spring and Libya deaths of Americans.
They supported the muslim killings of americans with blaming a movie.
eric holder and the great obama SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL for the deaths of Americans over fast and furious.
Great post. I agree. You just misspelled a few words so I made the right corrections.
Who is

Azusa, CA

#5549 Oct 15, 2012
It's a fact that the great Willard Mitt Romney is a Loser and Commie lover, he and is Satan offspring Paul D. Ryan have undermined the United States of America with China an Russia resulting in deaths of Americans.

They supported the muslim killings of americans with blaming a movie.

Willard Mitt Romney SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL for the deaths of Americans over fast and furious.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#5550 Oct 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Great post. I agree. You just misspelled a few words so I made the right corrections.
you crack me up riccard.

you find some troll who cant spell?? but his tripe is about the same as yours?? because it came roughly from the same talking points machine??

and then you correct his spellling....how sweet!!

im gonna give you a heart!!
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#5551 Oct 15, 2012
Who is wrote:
It's a fact that the great Willard Mitt Romney is a Loser and Commie lover, he and is Satan offspring Paul D. Ryan have undermined the United States of America with China an Russia resulting in deaths of Americans.
They supported the muslim killings of americans with blaming a movie.
Willard Mitt Romney SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL for the deaths of Americans over fast and furious.
even though youre kinda nuts??

that was a good job mocking the right.
ReTardOs

Azusa, CA

#5552 Oct 15, 2012
Romney is on a downward climb.
Reality Check

San Francisco, CA

#5553 Oct 15, 2012
Pete-o wrote:
<quoted text>
IO would suggest you educate yourself 97% of climate scientists agree climate change is happening. At this point, it's willful ignorance to think it's not happening.
All your need to do is look at our climate the last 10 years
There's a difference between something happening, and the source of its cause. The sun came up this morning, but that wasn't man-made. Man certainly has an effect on climate - any part of the system does. But it's folly to think we can control the temperature, or climate of the planet.
CO2 - odorless, colorless naturally occurring trace gas.

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