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2008atz

Monticello, AR

#41 Aug 24, 2011
Truth wrote:
If your big enough to make a baby then your big enough to pay yoru share! Get off the pitty poty and start taking care of your kids. I am happy to see more of these non paying dirtbags being sentenced to prison. Bottom line if you don't take care of your kids your a scumbag!
I don't see the point in sending someone to prison. Same thing as debtor's prison. Most of the time the Non-custodial parent (usually the Father) when sent to prison even while making child support payments may be late or not meeting the court ordered amount because they simply don't make enough to meet State standards.Therefore when sent to Prison and the Mother (if not already) is put on welfare and food stamps. Soooooo, The Tax payer is sentenced right along with the one that goes to prison TWICE. One for dishing out $ to take care of the one in prison and then again for the one recieving wefare. I have a Friend that is divorced with Two Children. His lazy a$$ Ex does not work at all, although more than capable to work and recives welfare. Original Court ordered child support $ 300.00/month. Every year since, She has taken Him back to court to have this amount increased. This amount as of the last I heard is $1200.00/month. He's forced to live in a Camper trailer. Drives a clunker car. eats bolony and pork&beans and to top it off, He has the two kids every weekend with Him while She runs.He's a proud Man and will probably not see the inside of a prison unless he loses his job. THIS IS NOT FAIR!!!!!
2008atz

Monticello, AR

#42 Aug 24, 2011
My personal experience with Child Support agency began in 1988. After I divorced my Wife for running around on Me. We had three kids. Oldest is from aprevious marrige of Her's before We married. I got full custody of My two Children, plus Her son was living with me also. Even though the divorce Judges decreed of $150.00/month was to be paid to Me (thats $75.00 per Child and nothing for Her Son) I told Her I would not expect this $ due to I had a fairly good paying job and would only need $ for unexpected emergencies, School cloths or medical bills. Ok for about the next 2 years when My Daughter needed teeth work and braces ( I didn't have dental insurance)So I asked her to kick in half of the bill of $1200.00, making Her half $600.00. She refused. I contaced CSEA. When the bomb hit, She called me every name in the book.They ended up garnishing her wages and started making Her pay rearages for the last two years that She had not paid. I stared receiving $200.00/month. She quit her job, No more support. To make a long story short, The kids are grown and out of the house. She still owes more than She ever paid. I was even told by an employee of CSEA that since I was the MAN, I should'nt get any support form the Mother anyway.I don't know how it is now but back then CSEA was simply not geared for dead beat Moms and very prejudistic toward the Man.
Blank

Wise, VA

#45 Sep 22, 2011
50 Cal wrote:
a loving and devoted dad would pay for his kids scumbag. Only dirtbags complain about having to support their kids!
And only STUPID females CHOOSE to make babies with such losers, while they have probably passed up a hundred decent guys!
Blank

Wise, VA

#47 Oct 10, 2011
Daddy wrote:
Only dirtbags make babies and don't pay for them!
And only MORON females CHOOSE to make babies with these "dirtbags." Meanwhile, they probably have passed up a hundred decent guys to get with a LOSER!!!
MtDad

Billings, MT

#48 Oct 16, 2011
I have 2 children in Mo that I pay support for. I have been evicted from homes, had my cars repo'd, my credit shot, my bank account bounced to heck and back when they garnish it, and to top it all off made a felon by the state. Because the state just takes women's word on anything they say. When you are a single dad raising 3 kids on your own and working 2 jobs just to keep your family afloat and they keep screaming for more and more. If raising the kids is such a burden on you let the other parent have them. But you won't, because it's all about getting money. I have my 3 little ones 24/7, no food stamps, no welfare, I pay daycare out of my pocket, and I cannot get the state of Mo to lower my support one bit. 2500 a month in income is not that much when they clip you for 1000 for children you are not allowed to see. Instead, they keep trying to put me in jail. I can prove my ex and her attorney lied about my income at our divorce, doesn't matter. I have tax records all the way back, nope wont look at it.
done my time I object

Fargo, ND

#49 Jan 11, 2012
I payed my support. & let me tell you the system is merciless, they totally disregaurd noncustodial parents abillity to sustain any quality of life... I love my kids & agreed to suport them... my only objection to the system is basing my support on a ficticious income. by this I mean, not the actual income I was making at the time of obligation. but the supposed Income I was capable of making...had anyone asked me why I was not making that income anymore, I could have told them it was because of the custodial parent I was no longer able to resume the income I was used to... I was not compensated for her part in jeopardizing my financial status lets be real...its time to base support on what you make not what you are capable of makeing. & establish a fair playing field, what about,(THE FATHERS ADVOCATES) my opinion of DEADBEAT DADS,(BS) what about the DEADBEAT MOMS, why did they burn the BRA... my advice to moms, get a JOB, in the name of EQUALITY.
Fighting

United States

#50 Apr 13, 2012
I am fighting my local DFS office. They tell me (in a letter)they removed my child from the case load and (on the phone) they tell me they emancipated her.
It, apparently, is their policy to ignore the second part of RSMO 452.340.5 and just go by the first part. I have asked for a copy of said "policy"...still waiting. I have contacted my State Rep. to find out how to make their "policy" law or how to make the law their "policy". Am currently discussing this now with the Rep. My policy is it's ok to rob banks but the law says I can't! Trying to figure out how this agency can go by portions of law and get away with it.
Single mom

Hamilton, MO

#51 Apr 19, 2012
rockstar rose wrote:
to "daddy" I'm not complaining about supporting my kids. I have been supporting them for many years. My bitch is that I should not have to do it all by myself. Their father should be held accountable for some of the support too. What gives his dead beat ass the right to party his money away while I bust my ass every single day to make ends meet? Obviously you wouldn't agree cause you're a man.
--Well said.
broken system

El Dorado Springs, MO

#52 May 18, 2012
I've gotta say, I don't agree with non-paying dads, but at the same time, dads that do care and follow the law get screwed beyond all belief.

To but it bluntly, it doesn't do enough for deadbeat's while it makes good dads helpless.

I pay for my daughter that lives with her grandmother while her actual mother collects from my paychecks 2000 miles away. I don't have money for a lawyer, the system doesn't care about fraud from the mothers AT ALL.

When it started I was fighting for custody, and could no longer afford a lawyer due to child support amounts WHILE I HAD MY DAUGHTER FULL TIME.

Now she lives with her grandmother because I can't afford to house and feed myself.

I can say however I've never missed a payment though. But I don't have a choice to feed into my ex's gambling budget, they take it straight from my paychecks and tax returns.

Its really funny too because on the paperwork I get, they say she lives in MO, yet they can't ever list an address for her, and even though I "pay for healthcare" they can't find an address to send it too.
Child Support Fraud

Havertown, PA

#53 Jul 4, 2012
States need to do their jobs. Take care of the kids....but when you have agencies that will not enforce the law...that need to be fined. There are a lot of women that have falsified federal government documents and are not penalized. Some fathers are being ordered to pay child support for kids that aren't not their kids. Such as Wisconsin denied a pat. Test to a man even though the mother knew the man wasn't the father. Make your elected officials enforce ALL the child support laws and not just those for collection. Start locking up those parents that falsify those government documents and commit perjury and fraud. Also Wisconsin will not provide a AUDIT of payments and the corresponding dates...they only certify! Is something wrong with this picture. The agencies need to be audited themselves by the Fed. Attorney Generals office.
Child Support Paying Mom

Clinton, MO

#54 Jul 25, 2012
Some of you people are so myopic it is disgusting.

Many of us ARE supporting our kids- it's the system that's messing up. I, for one, just got screwed over by a CLERICAL error. They say in order to correct THEIR mistake- I will have to spend my time and my money going to a hearing: in the meantime, though I DO pay my child support, my job got hit with an order to with-hold.

Looking at some of your ignorant opinions: I am even more humiliated than I started out. Should I be? I do take care of my son, I do regular visitation and I do pay his support. So, I'm a deadbeat scumbag because some idiot at the office screwed up the paperwork?
bob jones

Warrensburg, MO

#55 Jul 28, 2012
wow a women forced to pay child support. There is something new. usually american courts are so backwards that women have their own set of laws
Stunned

Lebanon, MO

#56 Aug 21, 2012
broken system wrote:
I've gotta say, I don't agree with non-paying dads, but at the same time, dads that do care and follow the law get screwed beyond all belief.
To but it bluntly, it doesn't do enough for deadbeat's while it makes good dads helpless.
I pay for my daughter that lives with her grandmother while her actual mother collects from my paychecks 2000 miles away. I don't have money for a lawyer, the system doesn't care about fraud from the mothers AT ALL.
When it started I was fighting for custody, and could no longer afford a lawyer due to child support amounts WHILE I HAD MY DAUGHTER FULL TIME.
Now she lives with her grandmother because I can't afford to house and feed myself.
I can say however I've never missed a payment though. But I don't have a choice to feed into my ex's gambling budget, they take it straight from my paychecks and tax returns.
Its really funny too because on the paperwork I get, they say she lives in MO, yet they can't ever list an address for her, and even though I "pay for healthcare" they can't find an address to send it too.
A letter to the editor in the local paper I wrote:
Fellow Citizens,

I would like to draw attention to a legal "Catch 22" that is currently being experienced by thousands of Missourians. Child Enforcement and Missouri Laws are by their actions creating problems for fathers or mothers who are behind on child support. I will lay this out very simply:(Using myself as the example, but many others are dealing with the same or worse situations)

1. I lost my job in late 2010, due to "corporate rearrangement" (a family member of the owners was given my job as they "down-sized" office staff.)
2. I decided to try to start my own business. I/it failed.
3. By this time, behind 1 year in Child Support.
4. I go and find another job. Was there two weeks...Warrant issued by the PA for back child support.
5. New job involves handling of money, corporate office fires me for the warrant.
6. After this Child Enforcement revokes my drivers license, now I cant drive to find another job.

So...The question is, How can this be productive on any level?

I now have the choice of 5 years supervised probation,(another $30 a month) and an increase of $175 over my original CS, or prison for 2 years.

I am not, nor have I ever denied I owe the arrearage, yet now, Im a "criminal" because of losing my job and making a bad business decision.

There is something wrong with the system and noone seems to care. Thoughts?

Stunned
Common Sense

Jefferson City, MO

#57 Aug 27, 2012
Maybe you all should pick who you have children with a little better.
You know, instead of being desperate enough to jump on the first warm body you find.
jim

Marion, IL

#58 Oct 11, 2012
I recently received sole custody of my daughter, after a 2 year slog through court.

As retaliation for the change in custody, her mother filed a claim with the state of Missouri, alleging that I've never paid child support, despite the fact that I've got a 2 inch thick stack of money order receipts.

Even with proof of payment, the State of Missouri has done nothing to her regarding her fraud (not that Illinois is any better). Frankly, I find it extremely sad that someone can abuse a system intended to help kids, and get away with it.
bystandard

Steelville, MO

#59 Oct 11, 2012
My husband pays child support, is court ordered to provide medical support (he has to pay for full insurance at premium costs!) and Biomom gets to sit in her ass, and pull child support, not work, and refuse to take the child to a dentist (she's 7 now) OR take the child to the specialist the dr ordered for her heart murmur. She refuses to use my husbands insurance and just uses "state". We can't set appointments bc even though my husband has joint custody in a disagreement Biomom gets to choose the "best interests" how in the hell is THAT best interest!? Plus the dr said stop smoking in front of the child, guess what she still smokes in the apartment and in the vehicle with the poor child. This child has moved 9 times in 7 years, and will move again in the next year or so bc it's not a permenant place either. I would get a job to pay the damn childsupport to her mom if she would just give us the child. Every month paycheck in her pocket of she lets us actually take care of the child. But no cus then she would lose food stamps, taxes, and tanif on the child.
StevenD

United States

#60 Oct 25, 2012
50 Cal wrote:
a loving and devoted dad would pay for his kids scumbag. Only dirtbags complain about having to support their kids!
Let me take to task your comment about these so called scummbag people you reference , And its not just men its wh called NCP Non Custodial Parents. First off who are you to lay judgement and grouping these people into one lump explitative. Apparently you have never had to suffer at the hands , the long hands of a court system that is biased in its approach to so called family Law . But I guarentee that if you found yourself in a situation that you could not help , such as a dissability, and accident , or the loss of a long held job without the hope of returning to that place of employment , or the employment field period , and then had the court system have you arrested because you are unable to pay your support as you try earning the same wage working three jobs , but because you got behind now you are not only dealling with arrears in child support you have to deal with penalties and interest to the tune of 10% interest daily in some states . My story 1998 I left my wife because she was an abusive woman physicaly and emotrionally and verbaly , yes it does happen to men , just not repoted as often. She filed for divorce so that gave her leverage and because she had the kids two . They based my amount of child support on not only what I made but what I could "potentially" make , talk about screwed up. I was making a some what good wage but after the child support , and spousal support , I wa bringing hone a whopping 3.50 an hour in earnings, Thats not much to live on in the state of california, in southern cali. 98 My ex lived .90 miles away , because she filed for reastraining orders I couldnt come within 600 feet of her home , I wasnt allowed to call, write letters , and what ever activities she could find for the kids she did and it always seemed to come on my days of visitation. I called the law and they told me they would only keep the peace and the law. So if i brought them with me she would say I am in violation of his restraining order which was based on false accusations that she or the court didint think appropriate to have evidence for . In the year that I lived so close to my kids i only got to see them twice in one year , and those were right before court hearrings that I instigated . 2002 i could no longer work, so the support in arrears kept piling up and the only reason I didnt get thrown in jail was because I had filed for SSD, and they didnt want to get sued over that one . It took me eight years to finally get my disability, 8 friggin years. Now durring this whole time the arrears is growing and growing in the 7th year I get a statement from cal dcfs with a statement that I owed 32,000 dollars, seemed about right so I called to verify , the next month the amount had climbed to 72,000.00 interest and penalties, you know and by your standards in deserve that, 3 months after I get my moneyu flowing from ssd the california dcfs sends me a latter saying that they are going to take so much out of my money , finally I am paying on this , Two years of paying on it , in sept this year i got a statement reflecting two years has been paid on my account . Last month I get a statement saying that now I owe 82,000.00. I gave you my example to show you that lumping everyone into one group is not only silly but an irresponsible hateful statement , not everyone who is told to pay can pay, and the courts are full of despicable criminals who are only interested in raping anyone they can , keeping a tally up of how much money they have collected , and if I could i would sue everyone of them for allowing my ex to make accusations about me that are false pure and simple , Oh about my kids . The last time i saw them was in june of 2002, they walked past me but because of the ROs I couldnt hold them talk to them or even aknowledge they were there , but my girl saw me,she knew me.
IDEAS

Vienna, IL

#61 Apr 17, 2013
I have an ex that is more than $14,000. Arrears to mine and 20,000 to another. DCE and State Reps. Don't help all I get are run arounds. Thought about hiring a lawyer but if I had that kind of money I wouldn't need that child support. Any other ideas???
M Hunt

Palo Alto, CA

#62 Jun 22, 2013
My (now ex) wife decided to go back to Missouri (we where living in Oklahoma) to have her baby. While there, she filed for DFS support to pay for the birth, as I was in college and not working. After having our child, she moved back to Oklahoma but kept collecting support checks at her parents Missouri address. When Missouri would send me a letter she would intercept them. We split up about six months later, and I got a letter demanding payment. I called DFS and they verified she was in Oklahoma via the campus police, and she claims she was charged with fraud and had to pay it back. I then got another support letter, at .01$ per child per year, due to her fraud! However, she waited about 4 years and moved back to Oklahoma, where she filed on me again...and didn't mention the Missouri fraud at all. Suddenly I'm slapped with almost $10,000 in "back support", from the time the child was born onwards.

I've tried in vain to obtain some copy of her fraud, some type of proof. OKDHS refuses to investigate or believe me. I've called Missouri DHS, the courthouse in Scott County, etc. I've tried to to a court record search for her name, but I don't think this was a "normal" court. If I could find out what court this was done in then perhaps I could get a copy of the decision against her...the main reason I need this is to show in court (nothing dealing with child support) that the back support was not due to my delinquency but sprang on me.

If someone had a suggestion on who to contact that would be awesome. I'm tempted to hire a private investigator in Missouri to have them go try and find it for me...
uhosarewaytoo expensive

Tampa, FL

#64 Feb 13, 2014
Y is it a woman can have the freedom to put a child up for adoption if the dnt wat the respinsibility but a man. Dont.u gals ca call me scumbag thats ok but those same females that scream scumbag put out in a flash for my scumbag butt..what kind of woman does that..why is prostitution illegle..they are way cheaper..u lazy moms are hi prced. Hos and the state is your pimp

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