Methadone Clinic - is this rehab or just another drug dealer

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crazy8

Harrisonburg, VA

#1 Aug 15, 2009
I am always amazed at the people who are going to the Methadone Clinic. I realize drug addiction is something people need help with and actually understand the need for treatment facilities. My problem is simple that I don't believe that there are any rules/guidelines that this particular clinic follows to select those that are admitted and or those that can continue to receive Methadone.

I have known several individuals who have attended this clinic and it seems to me that the clinic's primary goal is to get the patients addicted to Methadone in lieu of their former drugs of choices. They really don't care or care not to know what these individuals are doing as long as they receive the money from the patient's everyday. My friends who have attended have their dose increased very quickly [or at least it appears that way to me].

My neighbor's mother was taking 8-10 Lortab 7.5 mg daily. This began when she was injured in a car wreck and she was never able to kick them and actually increased her use to about 75 mg of Lortab daily. She enrolled in the Methadone clinic and is now taking 85 mg of Methadone. I know a little about drugs and it doesn't seem logical for a person taking 75 mg of Lortab to be now taking 85 mg of Methadone. The obvious increase in milligrams is easy to see, but Methadone is much harder and more addictive and damaging than Lortab.

My neighbor said her mother nods off and has had four wrecks since last December. She said she had called the clinic and made an anonymous report, but they have done nothing about this. She actually had her mother do a drug test at her home because she did not believe that she was only taking Methadone -- but the test showed only Methadone.

Another thing my neighbor has said is that her mother has had 3-4 different counselors none of which were certified in substance abuse since last December. She says the staff turnover is crazy and this to makes her mother more unstable.

Is this treatment or another drug dealer in our neighborhood.
cellany

Sneedville, TN

#2 Aug 15, 2009
i believe you've answered your own question
FemmeVamp

Harrisonburg, VA

#3 Aug 16, 2009
Most ppl I know that have gone to or currently go to the methadone clinic not only are taking that but if I understand correctly they are taking Xanax on top of the methadone for a serious high. Seems like its more of a mixer than a cure.
jezebel

Tazewell, VA

#5 Aug 16, 2009
can you just "sign yourself up" at this place? doesn't some doctor have to enroll you? I don't get how you can slide in the door and get drugs without either one.

who pays for this? medicare?medicaid? whoever has private insurance? no way any of these people are working a steady job. no way.

welcome to government health care.
use2baRNthere

Harrisonburg, VA

#6 Aug 17, 2009
Most of the patients are private pay [they pay for their treatment]- however a few have insurance that covers out patient treatment - I used to work there and I don't call it 'treatment'.

To sign up - you call an 800 number -- you are given an appointment to see the doctor - the entire time I was there no one that requested admission was denied. It's a money maker for someone - not the employees, but the top of the food chain.

I worked only a short time and just couldn't stay on -- It was pretty much the nursing staff had to dose everyone everyday and that was the bottom line - staff turnover is crazy - the counselor's can't do a good job, because they are to busy working in the parking lot keeping the traffic problems to a minimum.

I tried to stay on, but when they hired a counselor named, Amber, I had to quit. Ethically she is dangerous - patient's were coming to my window talking about staying at her house, I reported it to the director and he said he would take care of it, but there was no change. I am fortunate to have a nursing degree and can find jobs relatively quickly if I am willing to take the shift available -- after a few months there I was willing to take anything.

Don't get me wrong - if it were ran right and monitored correctly it could be a good thing, but letting patients stay on Methadone for as long and as high as they like [actually 120 mg was the normal cap - but that is alot of Methadone] is not treatment.
wrong

United States

#7 Aug 17, 2009
jezebel wrote:
can you just "sign yourself up" at this place? doesn't some doctor have to enroll you? I don't get how you can slide in the door and get drugs without either one.
who pays for this? medicare?medicaid? whoever has private insurance? no way any of these people are working a steady job. no way.
welcome to government health care.
NO the government does not pay for this treatment, I have family that have been in it, 2 still are and they have to pay out of their pocket, if they accept any insurance at all i dont know of it.

All u have to do is walk in the door and your accepted. Most are also getting the take homes and sell the biggest part of it.

and yes I feel it is just another drug and it does help them to a point but most people that i know do use other drugs with it, they do random test them but somehow its slipping through the cracks.I heard they know a way of getting around it.

1 was going to it and she was staying high and wrecked several times also.I called the clinic and complained, but they didnt do anything .

I have another that has been on it 3 years, this is stupid, they should MAKE them come off it gradually, lower the dose but no they will up it, shows me they dont give a damn about the people just the money.

and even if u miss a day u have to pay for it at this clinic. they arent there to help people they are there to get rich.
hillbilly sweety

United States

#8 Aug 20, 2009
It is a replacement drug. I can not count the people who have told me they wanted to get off of it and their dose was increased. Pregnant mothers should heavily consider alternative depending on your addicitions. The long term effects are no known yet and I don't care what they tell you at that clinic your baby will more than likely have some withdrawal symptoms. I know a man who broke his back and was addicted to oxy's He started going to the clinic to save his family. He swears that the meth is much more addictive than the oxy's were.
You have to out way the good and bad. It is cheeper than the street drugs.
t-town

Memphis, NE

#9 Aug 31, 2009
Have any of you ever known anyone that tried to come off the methadone? I have and it is was an awful experience. I am not saying that this is perfect alternative to illegal drug use, but it is better. Nothing is perfect, and I personally know people that owe their lives to methadone treatment. I don't understand how everyone is so quick to judge things, they know nothing about. The system is certainly flawed and there needs to be some major change, but for those that use the medication as they are directed, it keeps them from being a junkie.

Since: Nov 08

Sevierville, TN

#10 Aug 31, 2009
Lets just call it like it is.....it is another drug that just treats the symptoms of the other drugs..... IT DOES NOT CURE THE REAL PROBLEM!!!
who cares

United States

#11 Aug 31, 2009
well you have lots of ppl around town like for ex. Kia Perkins shes been goin for bout 10 yrs. now, she has no signs of wanting to quit it's an easy way for ppl who do dope to get some more an they sale it when they need money...or trade it. Methadone is not a good idea, maybe if the ppl who used it were gettin less over a period of time but it seems they get the same amount or more as the years go on. There should be some kind of cut off with this crap.
use2baRNthere

Harrisonburg, VA

#12 Aug 31, 2009
I don't disagree with Methadone "TREATMENT". I just can tell you that Clinch Valley Treatment Center aka The Methadone Clinic located just below Claypool Hill, does not treat addiction - it contributes to addiction.

The limit that a patient can increase is 120mg -- however some do get to go higher with the doctor's permission -- not alot but some do .. but 120mg of Methadone is TOOOOO much.

They get take homes quickly and there is not limit to what a daily dose can be in a take home.

They also allow patients to be on other medications like Xanax and Klonopin and take Methadone. This is a deadly cocktail -- Those patients do have to a prescription for the Xanax and or Klonopin but the prescribing physicain doesn't necessarily know about the Methadone treatment.

The DEA should really make a surprise visit to this facility -- they would be SHOCKED --
WTF

North Tazewell, VA

#13 Aug 31, 2009
use2baRNthere

I use to work there to. Wont say what position but I definately agree that the DEA should make a surprised visit. And just so the public knows 120 is not the highest a patient can go, I think the highest dose there was 180!! 180 is enough to kill anyone who doesn't have a tolerance, geez what the hell are these people thinking!!

Dr. Gomez, who is thankfully off the streets, used to prescribe Xanax to patients on a frequent basis. These patients would present to treatment messed up and the supervisors would require that the patients be dosed anyway!!! I know that several accidents happened as a result of this.

Patients are also never required to lower there dose or leave treatment UNLESS they cannot pay their bill. Fall three days behind and their dose would be dropped immediately!!! However, come in messed up on Xanax or get caught selling your take homes and nothing happens!!! NOTHING!!! Just pay your fees regularly and we will over look it!!

You said SHOCKED!!! Wonder how shocked our community would be if they knew that an entire case of methadone was stolen from that facility! YES I SAID AN ENTIRE CASE!!! Several people died from this theft and have you heard anything about it! No probably because it was never reported.

Methadone Treatment could be a good thing, however Clinch Valley Treatment Center only contributes to addiction!! and should be throughly investigated!!
Its him not U

United States

#14 Aug 31, 2009
WTF wrote:
use2baRNthere
I use to work there to. Wont say what position but I definately agree that the DEA should make a surprised visit. And just so the public knows 120 is not the highest a patient can go, I think the highest dose there was 180!! 180 is enough to kill anyone who doesn't have a tolerance, geez what the hell are these people thinking!!
Dr. Gomez, who is thankfully off the streets, used to prescribe Xanax to patients on a frequent basis. These patients would present to treatment messed up and the supervisors would require that the patients be dosed anyway!!! I know that several accidents happened as a result of this.
Patients are also never required to lower there dose or leave treatment UNLESS they cannot pay their bill. Fall three days behind and their dose would be dropped immediately!!! However, come in messed up on Xanax or get caught selling your take homes and nothing happens!!! NOTHING!!! Just pay your fees regularly and we will over look it!!
You said SHOCKED!!! Wonder how shocked our community would be if they knew that an entire case of methadone was stolen from that facility! YES I SAID AN ENTIRE CASE!!! Several people died from this theft and have you heard anything about it! No probably because it was never reported.
Methadone Treatment could be a good thing, however Clinch Valley Treatment Center only contributes to addiction!! and should be throughly investigated!!
Who died due to this theft?
Well I agree that clinic was a very bad idea.
Gods Angel

Saint Cloud, FL

#15 Sep 1, 2009
drugs are of the devil for sure. live on drugs and you are living for the devil and the devils works. GET OFF DRUGS COLD TURKEY PEOPLE. GOD DOES HELP IF YOU GET TO KNOW HIM AND TRUST HIM AND HE WILL GET YOU OFF THE DRUGS COLD TURKEY!!!!!

BTW, SINCE YOU TOW WORKED THERE AND CAN TELL all of us about it, WHYDO YOU CALL THE CORRECT PEOPLE to get something done really fast about that place?? DON'T WAIT call THEM NOW!!!
WTF

North Tazewell, VA

#16 Sep 1, 2009
response to Gods Angel

I have reported this information to multiple people, state and federal. However, as I stated the methadone clinic has money and apparently knows who they can pay off to stay in business. I still cannot believe they are still in business after the theft. That is one of the reasons I posted the information on here. The community has a RIGHT to know what really goes on there.
use2baRNthere

Harrisonburg, VA

#17 Sep 1, 2009
I too have reported it to many people -- nothing happens -- WTF is correct in saying that a case of Methadone was stolen from the clinic -- in the summer of 2007, and it has been reported that individuals did in fact die -- they even know [have alot of proof] who did this -- but to this date they have not been prosecuted -- still investigating however it has been more than a year since an investigator has graced the doors regarding this theft.

Clinch Valley Treatment Center is all about the money -- patient's can increase their dose as long as they pay -- I an not a disgrunteled employee -- I left because I couldn't live with what was going on --

There are a few success stories -- but those individuals are ready to accept and dedicate themselves to treatment -- You would imagine that if there were a 10% success rate that one may think that would be low -- I would think that would be great -- but the real success rate is probably 2 or 3 in 1,000. I am sure they have at least 1,000 patients at this time -- and at least a third gets take homes -- that is alot of Methadone on the street to individuals who are not dedicated to their recovery.

I scares me to drive near the clinic -- I know that the patients come from all over -- but the percentage of drivers under the influence of Methadone is considerably higher within a 2 or 3 mile radius of the clinic.

I would love for the DEA or State Methadone Authority to make a real surprise visit -- or someone go in under cover and see how it's ran -- there truely are some good patients and good staff - but the majority of the patients are using Methadone as a cheap replacement drug and the majority of the staff is so overwhelmed with paperwork and the vast number of patients that they too are just drawing a paycheck -- and FYI Clinch Valley Treatment Center is not a great paying company -- not even average --

“SURVIVING WHATEVA LIFE HAS....”

Since: May 09

TAZEWELL, VA

#18 Sep 2, 2009
alright, i am coming in on the tail end of this conversation, but i think the methadone clinic is a legalized way for stoners to stay high. it amazes me also of the amount of people that go to the methadone clinic. people who would otherwise snort a pill or shoot coke, just go there. half of the people who go there still do methadone and other illegal drugs, too. so whats the purpose? then there are the ones who sell the take home methadone. then i know at least three specific incidents where the poice officers escort the methadone users to their destianations, home, work, etc. if that was a normal person smoking weed or drinking behind the wheel, they would be taken to jail and charged with a dui or duid. amazing to me that it is acceptable to weave, drive below the speed limit, etc. if you are taking methadone, but not if you are smoking a joint or just snorted a pill,,,, really whats the difference? except for the fact that the government makes money off methadone, but they dont the boy next doors weed sales or pill sales... just my opinion.
call tv

Saint Cloud, FL

#19 Sep 4, 2009
call someone at Inside Edition and if that does not grab the attention of federal and state big wigs then nothing will.
Or Dianne Sawyers show.
call tv

Saint Cloud, FL

#20 Sep 4, 2009
BTW, tell them someone really important that goes there to crab the spotlight, like a higher up or a lawyer or someone important, for they love that crap.
carzy

Christiansburg, VA

#21 Sep 5, 2009
i think for some of you people on this post need to get your facts together becouse some things in life is eazer sead thin done. and for some of you people out there today that can seat back an say w dont people stop what thay do caould tearky. well that may be so but if the tables wear tearnd the ? is if some of people have not been in that place do thay really now what its like or how someone feels . not saying outhers has no wright to say how thay feel but if thay not had to go thorw anythiing for there sealf or had outhers in ones life go thourw thigs thin some gust may not understand.

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