Pastor or the Devil
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Johnny Evan Webb

Rocky Mount, NC

#1 Nov 4, 2012
The definition of a Pastor is a shepherd; one that has the care of flocks and herds. Whose duty is to watch over the people of his charge, and instruct them in the sacred doctrines of the Christian religion. A pastor must consistently demonstrate a general godliness in the home in addition to other areas of his life. They must set examples for all youths. You can recognize a good Pastor by looking at his family.

There is one Pastor living amongst the people of Newhall, West Virginia that I most certainly question his faith. I personally know and understand this man better than most of his followers. He was not instantly delivered from drug addiction and called into ministry like many people think. He took over the church when he was still practicing the art of substance abuse. I personally witnessed this and also watched him freely hand out his pills to his druggy friends. Pills weren’t the only thing he supplied. The wives of his customers, at which some go to his church have no ideal and are delusional to the fact. I’ve seen him take a shot of whiskey and return the saying the Lord had his back turned today.

I myself have never taken the plunge into doing drugs, mostly due to I have seen the damage it causes. Once, I was stupid and desperate for marriage advice that I asked for his. I was turned down hatefully; but he can readily give advice to drug addicts and anyone else who is in prison for much more serious crimes. He has even welcomed some into his home. The reason this bothers me so much is, I’ve seen many times that he has belittled people that walk the straight and narrow path of being good. Some of his family is living a life of sin under his own roof now. This Pastor’s father was a Snake-Handle Preacher before he died and I just wonder if they both were meant to do the devil’s work. Just everyone be aware and don’t fall for his deception. You will be much better off reading the good book “Bible” at home.
SOB

Rocky Mount, NC

#2 Nov 5, 2012
His nickname was SOB when he was a miner. This should tell you something about this man.
tits

United States

#3 Nov 5, 2012
Just because a man takes a shot of whiskey doesn't mean he is going to hell you idiot 200 years ago that's what you drank because the water was so bad are the puritans all in hell?
reality checker

Washington, DC

#4 Nov 5, 2012
pastors are held to a higher standard in GODS eyes.
tits

United States

#5 Nov 5, 2012
So the pilgrims, the puritans, pretty much all our ancestors are burning in hell right? This is why religion is dying!
SOB

Rocky Mount, NC

#6 Nov 5, 2012
tits wrote:
Just because a man takes a shot of whiskey doesn't mean he is going to hell you idiot 200 years ago that's what you drank because the water was so bad are the puritans all in hell?
It's the way he said it, has nothing to do with alcohol. If the Lord turns his back, does that mean it's alright to go rob a bank?
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Clay, WV

#7 Nov 5, 2012
reality checker wrote:
pastors are held to a higher standard in GODS eyes.
Can you please provide the scripture where is states this.
Thank you
Interesting

Clay, WV

#8 Nov 5, 2012
None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”(Romans 3:10-12 ESV)

We all sin. We all fall short of the glory of God. That includes every pastor you can think of from Rick Warren and Joel Osteen all the way down to the pastor of your church. Pastors can, will and do make mistakes.

THEY SIN.

They deserve mercy and grace as much as you and me.
Righteous

Rocky Mount, NC

#9 Nov 5, 2012
1 Timothy 3:4–5 ESV

He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church?
Interesting

Clay, WV

#10 Nov 5, 2012
The scripture you are referring to is talking about a man, specifically a husband. I want to know the specific scripture that states a pastor is held up to a higher standard before the Lord.
Stan

North Tazewell, VA

#11 Nov 5, 2012
There is no heaven or hell the bible is a story that was taking the wrong way. It was a story of a good man that helped and blown way out of proportion throughout time as people added to the story. I could have taken Mary the little lamb story said it was holy 1000 years ago and we'd all be worshiping that book.
Righteous

Rocky Mount, NC

#12 Nov 5, 2012
I wasn't answering for "reality checker" who brought up higher standards. A Pastor who is or was a drug addict shouldn't belittle others who don't. He is the one who is judging people. "Yes" he makes fun of people who don't. A Pastor should lead by setting good examples for his community, church and family. The children in his household just may think doing drugs is alright in the eyes of the Lord or maybe when his back is turned.
Interesting

Clay, WV

#13 Nov 5, 2012
Contrary to popular opinion, pastors and deacons are not part of a super-spiritual elite group who are closer to being morally perfected or above correction. Now, obviously most Christians would never make such a grand statement – but, this seems to be the implicit understanding of the qualification of Christian leaders that many people hold in the church.
It seems that the biblical qualifications (1 Timothy 3; Titus 1; 1 Peter 5:2-4) for pastors and deacons are strikingly simple and clear. What most people seem to gloss over is that these qualifications for pastors and deacons are the basic characteristics expected of all Christians.
Pastors are to exemplify what the Christian life looks like (1 Peter 5:3), but we are never told in the Bible that pastors are to have some higher degree of morality than other Christians. Pastors and deacons are sinners saved by grace, sinners who are regular people who do and will sin!
Part of being effective example includes confessing and repenting when one does stumble. When a church believes the false assumption that pastors are an elite spiritual group, things like confession, repentance, accountability, humility become impossible because these things work against the “false caricature of Christian leadership.”
Simply put, all Christians are expected to live their lives in a manner worthy of the gospel. Pastors are simply men who exhibit maturity in their faith and live humble and consistent lives. Again, if one were to lay out all the moral imperatives directed to church leaders one would find that the same things are expected of all Christians. There are not two standards – one for leaders and one for everyone else. If anything these ‘qualification’ lists should be seen as things that are expected of the normal Christian life.
Righteous

Rocky Mount, NC

#14 Nov 5, 2012
God holds teachers to a higher standard, and I believe this would include pastor's who preach the word.

James 3:1
NOT MANY [of you] should become teachers ( self-constituted censors and reprovers of others), my brethren, for you know that we [teachers] will be judged by a higher standard and with greater severity [than other people; thus we assume the greater accountability and the more condemnation].

KJV Bible Student
Righteous

Rocky Mount, NC

#15 Nov 6, 2012
To the best of my knowledge, this person is the devil.
Disappointed

Rocky Mount, NC

#16 Nov 7, 2012
Now the election outcome has been determined by the Mexicans. Satan is winning on all fronts. He is now in our churches and is running our country.
oh good grief

Cherryville, NC

#17 Nov 7, 2012
Righteous wrote:
God holds teachers to a higher standard, and I believe this would include pastor's who preach the word.
James 3:1
NOT MANY [of you] should become teachers ( self-constituted censors and reprovers of others), my brethren, for you know that we [teachers] will be judged by a higher standard and with greater severity [than other people; thus we assume the greater accountability and the more condemnation].
KJV Bible Student
Check again, God also judges those who are trouble makers and gossip mongers. How about you tend to yor concerns a let God handle his business?
oh good grief

Cherryville, NC

#18 Nov 7, 2012
and one more thing..God says there is not one righteous among us, may be time for a name change.
Dan Hallen

North Tazewell, VA

#19 Nov 7, 2012
Stan wrote:
There is no heaven or hell the bible is a story that was taking the wrong way. It was a story of a good man that helped and blown way out of proportion throughout time as people added to the story. I could have taken Mary the little lamb story said it was holy 1000 years ago and we'd all be worshiping that book.
heaven and hell is real and so is satan. I may not be as smart as alot of ppl but I do know that much.
reality checker

Baltimore, MD

#20 Nov 8, 2012
everyone will be judged twice. none are exempt.i don't quote scripture word for word but if you have any ambition and internet you can find them.study to show yourself approved.

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