Taylorsville teacher suspended for showing class rap video about gay marriage

Sep 11, 2013 Full story: The Charlotte Observer 51

A Taylorsville teacher has been suspended for showing a group of students a music video for a song that supports same-sex marriage.

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“ WOOF ! ”

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#1 Sep 11, 2013
Same-sex marriage is legal.

If a teacher showed a group of students a music video that supports inter-racial marriage, which is legal, would the teacher be suspended for that also ?

Since: Mar 09

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#2 Sep 12, 2013
What was the lesson plan?
david traversa

Argentina

#3 Sep 12, 2013
I suppose school authorities would be happier if students picked up such information out in the streets and after school hours ; for the possible harm done with such a policy is clearly not their concern . The usual ignorant hypocrisy ..

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#4 Sep 12, 2013
It was Mackelmore's video for "Same Love" and the school in question was a public middle school.

If anyone is suspended over this it should be the school administrator who decided to reprimand the teacher for daring to discuss current events and tolerance in the school.

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#5 Sep 12, 2013
Here's a link to the video that got the school administrator in such a righteous tizzy:
http://m.youtube.com/watch...

“RAINBOW POWER!”

Since: Oct 08

I Am What I Am.

#6 Sep 12, 2013
Gay And Proud wrote:
Here's a link to the video that got the school administrator in such a righteous tizzy:
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Wow, great video! And it's definitely appropriate for all ages: G-Rated.

This school administrator needs to be promptly fired.
Frontline Fighter

Fayette City, PA

#8 Sep 12, 2013
And rightfully so.

Since: Mar 09

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#10 Sep 12, 2013
Completely appropriate for a middle school environment.

I still wonder what the lesson plan was. I can see a lot of directions this vid could be used for in class discussion and writing assignments.

A very fine vid!
Sir Andrew

Honolulu, HI

#11 Sep 12, 2013
The Flordia Gator wrote:
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You got more names than R1
I saw a book called "1,001 Names for Your Baby" or something like that. I suspect our LIttle Liar boyfriend is slowly working his way through it. He's certainly not clever enough to come up with all of these names on his own—no teenager is. And he likely has an atlas next to his computer to come up with the cities he claims to be posting from. Once again, not smart enough to know these cities without assistance.
Angry

Rothschild, WI

#12 Sep 12, 2013
No matter what the lesson plan was, I did NOT give the teacher permission to show my child that. I at least think they should not "glorify" being gay and did you not hear the part about the Bible?? Maybe some of those students had parents who were Christians. I myself would love to know who this teacher is so I could get my child out of that class ASAP!

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#13 Sep 12, 2013
Angry wrote:
No matter what the lesson plan was, I did NOT give the teacher permission to show my child that. I at least think they should not "glorify" being gay and did you not hear the part about the Bible?? Maybe some of those students had parents who were Christians. I myself would love to know who this teacher is so I could get my child out of that class ASAP!
If you want your child to have religion taught to them in school, please put them in a religious private school. You do not have the right to expect your religious taboos to be taught or enforced in public schools.

Since: Mar 09

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#14 Sep 12, 2013
Angry wrote:
No matter what the lesson plan was, I did NOT give the teacher permission to show my child that. I at least think they should not "glorify" being gay and did you not hear the part about the Bible?? Maybe some of those students had parents who were Christians. I myself would love to know who this teacher is so I could get my child out of that class ASAP!
It's an educator, NOT a programmer.

The kids will see it. The kids will react. The kids will share their range of reactions in discussion and in writing. They will THINK about it. It's very hard now days to find things that will get kids fired up enough to stretch their talents.

Middle school is also the age at which kids start being uncomfortable with themselves and taking that out on each other ... bullying. This vid has a very humane message, and evokes compassion. To be compassionate requires being vulnerable and OPEN to others, and strong enough to hold their pain along with your own. That is something kids need to learn, and the ONLY way to learn that is to DO IT. A video such as this will evoke a lot of reactions, some of them the kids themselves will not know or expect from themselves. For some there will be knee-jerk resistances, but these will not be so much about the material (though they may try to make it seem so), but about their own fears and insecurities, and a wish to project them on something other than themselves. Something strange or different is the easy choice, and many will take it. They already do, every day, on each other. For many, at a loss and without the skills to think, evaluate and innovate, they will parrot what they've gotten at home, or see others do. It's the only skill-set they've been given. Deflection. Projection. Imitation. At this age things are always someone else's fault. A good educator can offer alternatives and help them add to their self-understanding and coping skill-sets. Adolescence is SO much easier when you have them ... rather than just defense mechanisms.

I could use this video in SO many ways.

"Educate", educe, from the Latin "educere", to draw out of, to nurture.

That's why I really want to know what the lesson plan was.
Garwood

Austin, TX

#15 Sep 12, 2013
The teacher should have been suspended for two wrongs.

1. Children should not be exposed to rap music.
2. Children should not be taught that homosexuality is acceptable in any way, shape or form.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#16 Sep 12, 2013
Garwood wrote:
The teacher should have been suspended for two wrongs.
1. Children should not be exposed to rap music.
2. Children should not be taught that homosexuality is acceptable in any way, shape or form.
I agree ONLY with your first point. And "rap" and "music" are mutually exclusive words.
Angry

Rothschild, WI

#18 Sep 12, 2013
Gay And Proud wrote:
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If you want your child to have religion taught to them in school, please put them in a religious private school. You do not have the right to expect your religious taboos to be taught or enforced in public schools.
Apparently, you didn't understand my point. I do NOT expect my child to be taught about my so called "religious taboos." I merely expect them to be respectful of my beliefs and not put them down in front of my child. I thought this was supposed to be a video about acceptance....sounds sort of like a double standard to me!
say what?

Lenoir, NC

#19 Sep 13, 2013
david traversa wrote:
I suppose school authorities would be happier if students picked up such information out in the streets and after school hours ; for the possible harm done with such a policy is clearly not their concern . The usual ignorant hypocrisy ..
This is ridiculous.. Maybe this video is not part of a lesson plan but kids learn more in school than the 3 r's.. I applaud the teacher for thinking out side the box. I am a straight male but I get the message in the video. It's not only about gay rights but it is about hate and judging others. Which are two very strong issues this area faces. Everyone is so damn concerned about pushing their fake religious values on others. It is much better issues such a gay rights, racism, and hate be addressed in the classroom and not on the street. This entire areas mentality is stuck in the past, which explains why we ( foothills NC) are 20 years behind times, sinking slowly and the most judgmental place to live.
MovingForward

Lenoir, NC

#20 Sep 13, 2013
[QUOTE who="say what? "]<quoted text>
This is ridiculous.. Maybe this video is not part of a lesson plan but kids learn more in school than the 3 r's.. I applaud the teacher for thinking out side the box. I am a straight male but I get the message in the video. It's not only about gay rights but it is about hate and judging others. Which are two very strong issues this area faces. Everyone is so damn concerned about pushing their fake religious values on others. It is much better issues such a gay rights, racism, and hate be addressed in the classroom and not on the street. This entire areas mentality is stuck in the past, which explains why we ( foothills NC) are 20 years behind times, sinking slowly and the most judgmental place to live.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better myself? This area is so backwards and truly 20 years behind the times. My children go to college in Chapel Hill and boy what an eye opener for them in such a positive way. They will never come back to this area because of the way people are always judging others. My daughter has many gay friends who would drop everything to help her if she needed it. People are born the way they are suppose to be so quit judging and LIVE!!! The best thing people can do is let their children move away from this area. I tell my kids not to come back to live in this area and my daughter says...Don't worry that won't happen! There have always been gay people and there will always be gay people so quit thinking you can pray it away...not going to happen!

Since: Mar 09

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#21 Sep 13, 2013
Angry wrote:
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Apparently, you didn't understand my point. I do NOT expect my child to be taught about my so called "religious taboos." I merely expect them to be respectful of my beliefs and not put them down in front of my child. I thought this was supposed to be a video about acceptance....sounds sort of like a double standard to me!
Well, you have a bit of a point there, but remember that this vid was by an artist speaking uncomfortable truths. It's their calling, after all. Such truths are always at least a bit incendiary. That's what makes them valuable. They get the kids stirred-up enough to actually talk and think about the issues.

There are many very good reasons that gay people have for resentment and suspicion of sectarian religionists. They aren't some doctrinal quibble, either. They are very personal experiences. Our reasons have been impressed on our persons and our lives. Most of us grew up in religionist homes, some VERY oldschool. It's reasonable for that take on the situation to be addressed with candor, and at least SOME traces of the emotional scars those experiences left.

This vid is remarkably good teaching tool ... just incendiary enough to get the kid's attention away from their twitter feeds without going over the top, and realistic-yet-tame enough encourage a sense of commonality with the troubles of other people.

Compassion development.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#22 Sep 13, 2013
MovingForward wrote:
<quoted text>
Couldn't have said it better myself? This area is so backwards and truly 20 years behind the times. My children go to college in Chapel Hill and boy what an eye opener for them in such a positive way. They will never come back to this area because of the way people are always judging others. My daughter has many gay friends who would drop everything to help her if she needed it. People are born the way they are suppose to be so quit judging and LIVE!!! The best thing people can do is let their children move away from this area. I tell my kids not to come back to live in this area and my daughter says...Don't worry that won't happen! There have always been gay people and there will always be gay people so quit thinking you can pray it away...not going to happen!
A refreshing voice.

Don't be a stranger.
Sparkle

Bellevue, WA

#23 Sep 13, 2013
Angry wrote:
No matter what the lesson plan was, I did NOT give the teacher permission to show my child that. I at least think they should not "glorify" being gay and did you not hear the part about the Bible?? Maybe some of those students had parents who were Christians. I myself would love to know who this teacher is so I could get my child out of that class ASAP!
I agree if I found out the teacher was ChriSTAIN I would want to know so I could pull my child out ASAP

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