Second Lake Jail Death In Two Weeks!

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insider

Barnesville, OH

#1 Sep 8, 2011
TAVARES -- BREAKING NEWS! ANOTHER LAKE COUNTY JAIL INMATE DEATH! THIS ONE FOUND DEAD INSIDE HIS CELL – WE GUESS THAT MAKES HIM A FORMER INMATE LIKE MICHAEL GREEN !

Updated: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:21 PM

We're awaiting autopsy results to learn why an inmate at the Lake County Jail died.

A unidentifed sheriff's spokesman said 47-year-old Nickolas Welch was found dead inside his jail cell Tuesday night after he had a seizure.
The Lake County Sheriff's Office believes Welch died of natural causes, but deputies said they don't know whether Welch had any health problems.

He was in jail on charges of drunk driving. END OF SHERIFF’S SPOKESMAN RELEASE

Now – here is the real truth direct from the public documents available.

Nicholas John Welch DOB- 3/20/1964 was arrested by Officer Strykowski of Mount Dora Police Department on 9/6/2011 at 7:31 AM.

He was charged by this officer with A NON- MOVING - TRAFFIC VIOLATION – DRIVE WITH SUSPENDED REVOKED LICENSE – BOND SET AT $10,000.00

Nicholas John Welch was booked into the Lake County Jail at 9:44:09 AM by booking officer (C534)

John Nicholas Welch was released from the Lake County Jail on 9/7/2011 at 1:46 AM
This is the second death of a Lake County Jail inmate since Michael Ray Green died August 23, 2011.
END OF RELEASE PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING CAUSE OF DEATH.
only a matter of time

Mount Dora, FL

#2 Sep 8, 2011
insider wrote:
TAVARES -- BREAKING NEWS! ANOTHER LAKE COUNTY JAIL INMATE DEATH! THIS ONE FOUND DEAD INSIDE HIS CELL – WE GUESS THAT MAKES HIM A FORMER INMATE LIKE MICHAEL GREEN !
Updated: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:21 PM
We're awaiting autopsy results to learn why an inmate at the Lake County Jail died.
A unidentifed sheriff's spokesman said 47-year-old Nickolas Welch was found dead inside his jail cell Tuesday night after he had a seizure.
The Lake County Sheriff's Office believes Welch died of natural causes, but deputies said they don't know whether Welch had any health problems.
He was in jail on charges of drunk driving. END OF SHERIFF’S SPOKESMAN RELEASE
Now – here is the real truth direct from the public documents available.
Nicholas John Welch DOB- 3/20/1964 was arrested by Officer Strykowski of Mount Dora Police Department on 9/6/2011 at 7:31 AM.
He was charged by this officer with A NON- MOVING - TRAFFIC VIOLATION – DRIVE WITH SUSPENDED REVOKED LICENSE – BOND SET AT $10,000.00
Nicholas John Welch was booked into the Lake County Jail at 9:44:09 AM by booking officer (C534)
John Nicholas Welch was released from the Lake County Jail on 9/7/2011 at 1:46 AM
This is the second death of a Lake County Jail inmate since Michael Ray Green died August 23, 2011.
END OF RELEASE PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING CAUSE OF DEATH.
I'm "guessing" this poon-swah "insider" doesn't have a clue about what really happened. I knew the inmate and I also know the medical protocols of the state in which jails are required to follow. I'm calling shenanigans on this allegation and I will step up to the plate and debate with anyone who dares to come forward and say this was something other than the inevitable.
hang in there

Barnesville, OH

#3 Sep 9, 2011
Just hang in there you will be getting your chance to prove the inevitable! Sure everyone is inevitably going to die! But most don't go to the county jail for a few hours just to get found dead in his cell. You don't need to worry the Orlando lawyers will take care of it, like the dead girl on the gerry rigged board that cost us a cool 1/2 million. It all boils down to just the taxpayers money! Here's looking at you
only a matter of time

Mount Dora, FL

#4 Sep 9, 2011
hang in there wrote:
Just hang in there you will be getting your chance to prove the inevitable! Sure everyone is inevitably going to die! But most don't go to the county jail for a few hours just to get found dead in his cell. You don't need to worry the Orlando lawyers will take care of it, like the dead girl on the gerry rigged board that cost us a cool 1/2 million. It all boils down to just the taxpayers money! Here's looking at you
I won't have to prove jack, the proof is in the records that your silly a*# "lawyers from orlando" will soon see. They will back off because they are too dumb too realize $h!t happens and it just so happened that his body gave in WHILE he was in jail. Had he went to the hospital INSTEAD of jail, the same fate would have transpired. You can't save or help those that aren't willing to help themselves. He's better off dead, just think of how much he's saving you now!!

F*(k off and eat $hlt!!
hang in there

Barnesville, OH

#5 Sep 10, 2011
With your HBP condition you be joining him soon!
only a matter of time

Mount Dora, FL

#6 Sep 10, 2011
hang in there wrote:
With your HBP condition you be joining him soon!
Won't know till it happens!! I have a "few" more years so I'm not worried.

Since: Feb 07

Orlando, Florida

#8 Sep 11, 2011
only a matter of time wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't have to prove jack, the proof is in the records that your silly a*# "lawyers from orlando" will soon see. They will back off because they are too dumb too realize $h!t happens and it just so happened that his body gave in WHILE he was in jail. Had he went to the hospital INSTEAD of jail, the same fate would have transpired. You can't save or help those that aren't willing to help themselves. He's better off dead, just think of how much he's saving you now!!
F*(k off and eat $hlt!!
LOL - your comments and attitude gives good indications of how reliable your arguments are. In truth, jail health safe guards were seriously reduced in 1997 when the jail were allowed to stop following mandated Florida Administrative Code 33-8 and allowed to use Florida Model Jail Standards instead...... I invite you to review http://www.volusiaexposed.com

smh

Barnesville, OH

#7 Sep 11, 2011
At least they admit this one was an inmate and they didn't run to the judge and get him released time served but, they still can't get it straight if he was found dead in his cell or died at the hospital! Are the facts that hard to report? I guess they are when you spend your entire life lying about everything! Everything is a fantasy!

Nickolas Welch was found dead inside his jail cell Tuesday night

Updated: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:21 PM
TAVARES --
We're awaiting autopsy results to learn why an inmate at the Lake County Jail died.

A sheriff's spokesman said 47-year-old Nickolas Welch was found dead inside his jail cell Tuesday night after he had a seizure.

The Lake County Sheriff's Office believes Welch died of natural causes, but deputies said they don't know whether Welch had any health problems.
He was in jail on charges of drunk driving.

Jail Inmate Dies In Cell After Seizure
September 8, 2011 Posted: 10:05 am EDT - Channel 9-
TAVARES, Fla.-- Officials say a central Florida jail inmate died after having a seizure in his cell.

The Lake County Sheriff's Office reports that 47-year-old Nickolas Welch died Tuesday.

Authorities say the Sorrento man was booked into the jail Tuesday morning on charges of driving with a suspended license from a previous DUI.

Officials say Welch received a medical screening but didn't indicate any health issues.

Later that day, nurses tried to revive Welch, who appeared to be having a seizure.

Welch was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died.

An autopsy revealed no signs of trauma. Officials say they're awaiting toxicology results to determine the cause of death.
UnderTaker

Tampa, FL

#9 Sep 11, 2011
Know thy contacts. Jail deaths are no problem in Lake.

Borders calls Cadwell

Cadwell calls his bud the Medical Examiner then Beyers Funeral home for the gravy train then
Minkoff to stave off any questions.

If something slips by FDLE Michael Giddens is called in with SAO Bradley King and the show is over.

This has worked for a long time. When the medical examiner is on the payoff of Cadwell and Minkoff, anything is possible.
smh

Barnesville, OH

#10 Sep 12, 2011
who knows maybe Cadwell was running a special at Buyers Funeral Home, two for the price of one!
Invite accepted

Mount Dora, FL

#11 Sep 12, 2011
ppk007 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL - your comments and attitude gives good indications of how reliable your arguments are. In truth, jail health safe guards were seriously reduced in 1997 when the jail were allowed to stop following mandated Florida Administrative Code 33-8 and allowed to use Florida Model Jail Standards instead...... I invite you to review http://www.volusiaexposed.com
This had nothing to do with how professionals in their current job duties perform their tasks. If they are truly professionals then it doesn't matter what measure they are compared to. The medical protocols for every jail are approved by the health authority (the Doctor who is licensed by the State). I know for a fact these individuals responsible for the care, custody and control of this inmate while he was incarcerated take pride in their jobs and are truly professionals in every degree of the word. For you to go and "ASSUME" (you know what that means I'm sure) the individuals were in the wrong is strictly your opinion. The inmate in question could have gone unresponsive at any second..........REGARDLESS whether he was in jail or not. And for those officers and nurses who acted immediately in response to this unfortunate circumstance, I commend them, they did what they were trained to do. Unfortunately human bodies can't endure restricted SELF CARE forever. He would have died on the same day, at the same time and with the same regrets; whether he was in jail or not.
smh

United States

#12 Sep 13, 2011
which "he" you "be" talking about? Green or Welch?
chill out

United States

#13 Sep 15, 2011
Don't fuel this persons(N.A.) conspiracy rants.
smh

United States

#14 Sep 16, 2011
It is not necessary for Imbicals to conspire to do stupid things, it comes naturally. When they are doing stupid things instead of the job at hand and it cost someone their life it is akin to manslaughter. Put that in your conspiracy bullshit pipe and smoke it!

Since: Feb 07

Orlando, Florida

#15 Sep 17, 2011
I believe you "assume" allot.

In Volusia County - jail officers are also trained to start CPR... but in a recent jail death - an inmate that was on a 15 minute medical watch ...not one of the three officers that found her in distress (not breathing) started CPR....it took the nurses 3 minutes to get there (how long can you hold your breath?)...is this an example of officers doing what they are trained to do??????

http://volusiaexposed.com/corrections/wooleyd...

Volusia County also hold the same OPINION about their professionalism as you do about LCSO officers
Invite accepted wrote:
<quoted text>
This had nothing to do with how professionals in their current job duties perform their tasks. If they are truly professionals then it doesn't matter what measure they are compared to. The medical protocols for every jail are approved by the health authority (the Doctor who is licensed by the State). I know for a fact these individuals responsible for the care, custody and control of this inmate while he was incarcerated take pride in their jobs and are truly professionals in every degree of the word. For you to go and "ASSUME" (you know what that means I'm sure) the individuals were in the wrong is strictly your opinion. The inmate in question could have gone unresponsive at any second..........REGARDLESS whether he was in jail or not. And for those officers and nurses who acted immediately in response to this unfortunate circumstance, I commend them, they did what they were trained to do. Unfortunately human bodies can't endure restricted SELF CARE forever. He would have died on the same day, at the same time and with the same regrets; whether he was in jail or not.
Invite accepted

Mount Dora, FL

#16 Sep 18, 2011
ppk007 wrote:
I believe you "assume" allot.
In Volusia County - jail officers are also trained to start CPR... but in a recent jail death - an inmate that was on a 15 minute medical watch ...not one of the three officers that found her in distress (not breathing) started CPR....it took the nurses 3 minutes to get there (how long can you hold your breath?)...is this an example of officers doing what they are trained to do??????
http://volusiaexposed.com/corrections/wooleyd...
Volusia County also hold the same OPINION about their professionalism as you do about LCSO officers
<quoted text>
This is not Volusia county we are talking about, it's Lake, and if you need directions I will gladly oblige. Just because an inmate dies in custody or just after getting out doesn't mean the officers OR nurses were responsible for the death. Well I guess if you're out to sue anybody for anything to make a quick buck then yes you will place blame on everybody else. Just like the losers that refuse to work and live off everyone else in this country, not willing to man up like a bunch of Pu$$!es.

SUE SUE SUE, it's the new American way, expose yourself instead of local governments and see if you can make some money at it!
close to heart

Altamonte Springs, FL

#17 Sep 19, 2011
First of all you do not know if either one would have died at the same time for the same reason reguardless of in jail or not. That is your ASSUMPTION and stupid faith in our jail system! "IF" they had gotten proper medical care while in custody before the fact then maybe (probably)things would be different. There is no fault to wanting to find out the "TRUTH" and maybe preventing someone else from dying!!!
smh

Barnesville, OH

#18 Sep 19, 2011
Prior to 1997 - all in-custody jail deaths had to be investigated by the Florida State Prison Inspector's Office. However, in 1997, Florida Administrative Code 33-8 was repealed and was replaced by Florida Model Jail Standards - that pretty much allows the Florida Sheriffs to self regulate each other's jails. Is the well being and safety of Florida jail inmates being compromised under Florida Model Jail Standards? You bet it is!

It allows the fox to guard the henhouse! No agency should be afforded the power to police themselves! If you think for one minute they are going to admit to any wrong doings you are nuts! If the police can police themselves- then why not let the public police themselves and save all our money they waste on protecting themselves?

Since: Feb 07

Orlando, Florida

#19 Oct 2, 2011
Exactly !!!
smh wrote:
Prior to 1997 - all in-custody jail deaths had to be investigated by the Florida State Prison Inspector's Office. However, in 1997, Florida Administrative Code 33-8 was repealed and was replaced by Florida Model Jail Standards - that pretty much allows the Florida Sheriffs to self regulate each other's jails. Is the well being and safety of Florida jail inmates being compromised under Florida Model Jail Standards? You bet it is!
It allows the fox to guard the henhouse! No agency should be afforded the power to police themselves! If you think for one minute they are going to admit to any wrong doings you are nuts! If the police can police themselves- then why not let the public police themselves and save all our money they waste on protecting themselves?

Since: Feb 07

Orlando, Florida

#20 Oct 2, 2011
Lake, Volusia or any other county in Florida all answers to the same regulations - lastly, you use of language is interesting..very informative...
Invite accepted wrote:
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This is not Volusia county we are talking about, it's Lake, and if you need directions I will gladly oblige. Just because an inmate dies in custody or just after getting out doesn't mean the officers OR nurses were responsible for the death. Well I guess if you're out to sue anybody for anything to make a quick buck then yes you will place blame on everybody else. Just like the losers that refuse to work and live off everyone else in this country, not willing to man up like a bunch of Pu$$!es.
SUE SUE SUE, it's the new American way, expose yourself instead of local governments and see if you can make some money at it!

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