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[H Akston]

Enjoy your weekend Sarcasm!

[Rochesterian]

Pudbert_Savannah GA wrote:

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Obviously you and "BELOW SeaLevel GW Map S Fla" have no clue as to the consequences of what the idiotic 91% taxes for millionaires would be.
More likely you don't have the foresight to see it, or just don't care. As long as your socialized lazy-enabling society would exist.
Since either of you ever READ anybody elses post (especailly if is based on logic), I'll repeat it, and type it slower, just for you two.
Are you really too dense to think that any person or business would be dumb enough to pay 91% taxes? You'd have economic collapse in no time, because the tax base would be lost due to people and businesses leaving the new socialistic country.
H3ll, they could get a better deal in Chavez (Venezuela) country, and HE sucks. He only started scarfing about 80% lately instead of 20%.
MOST US millionaires and MOST companies would be registering in ANY country other than the US. Then you'd have NO JOBS & total economic collapse, as I said. Then what.
See, that's what the liberals and dummycrats have never really been able to grasp, BASIC economics...
Especially the part about where any economy will collapse if you abuse your tax base to the point where it's not worth it to them to continue to be bled to such an extent.
The world is too big and there's too many other countries that would GIVE tax breaks instead of being too dumb to know that you can't abuse the tax base.
I think you guys need to go take a basic Economics class. I was thinking maybe Freshman Economics 101, but maybe you two should start at High School first.

Given your admitted tax-bracket in relation to the likelihood income taxes against you will rise here and the U.K.(alot), you should seriously consider conferring with a board certified international taxation attorney ASAP.

I do not doubt you patriotism or your sincere belief that "trickle-down' is a good thing. As you can surmise above, I respectfully disagree with your posture.

I know very little about international taxation jurisprudence; however, I do know for a fact legal procedures regarding overseas investments take a alot of time and research by attorneys possessing the International Taxation LLM. For example, it may likely take several years to craft a legally acceptable/viable plan to transfer/dispose and/or accumulate assets overseas.

PEACE

[Yogi Bear]

Pudbert_Savannah GA wrote:

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Obviously you and "BELOW SeaLevel GW Map S Fla" have no clue as to the consequences of what the idiotic 91% taxes for millionaires would be.
More likely you don't have the foresight to see it, or just don't care. As long as your socialized lazy-enabling society would exist.
Since either of you ever READ anybody elses post (especailly if is based on logic), I'll repeat it, and type it slower, just for you two.
Are you really too dense to think that any person or business would be dumb enough to pay 91% taxes? You'd have economic collapse in no time, because the tax base would be lost due to people and businesses leaving the new socialistic country.
H3ll, they could get a better deal in Chavez (Venezuela) country, and HE sucks. He only started scarfing about 80% lately instead of 20%.
MOST US millionaires and MOST companies would be registering in ANY country other than the US. Then you'd have NO JOBS & total economic collapse, as I said. Then what.
See, that's what the liberals and dummycrats have never really been able to grasp, BASIC economics...
Especially the part about where any economy will collapse if you abuse your tax base to the point where it's not worth it to them to continue to be bled to such an extent.
The world is too big and there's too many other countries that would GIVE tax breaks instead of being too dumb to know that you can't abuse the tax base.
I think you guys need to go take a basic Economics class. I was thinking maybe Freshman Economics 101, but maybe you two should start at High School first.

You grossly underestimate the work ethic and employment skills of the working class, which is almost 80% of the American people -- those who have been cheated out of the American Dream by the obscene tax cut wealth transfers to the richest among us.

When you lazy no good cry baby millionaires finish your temper tantrums over the 91 % tax rate all other Americans will vote to impose upon you, and you leave this Country in droves, the rest of us hard working stiffs will get all your land holdings and capital improvements you leave behind on a tax sale or foreclosure, work together to build real prosperity, and rise into a new middle class like the Phoenix from the ashes.

Meanwhile, you millionarire tax evaders will be dodging from Country to Country as those who do not like or welcome Americans as much as we do will take EVERYTHING from you like the meat from the bones by a vulture.

It will be a fitting end to your defective genetic kind that would, like Scrooge, destroy the lives of most innocent and hardworking Americans if it would get you another greenback dollar.

The only "economic collapse" will be your own brought about by your own inbecility and greed, a product of your A-B-C-D dumb down tests.

It doesn't take a fast reader to graduate with a J.D./M.B.A. with several economics classes beyond Econ 101.

In sum, history has proven over and over, your economic formula NEVER wins the betterment of humanity.

[Mark]

Yogi Bear wrote:

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You grossly underestimate the work ethic and employment skills of the working class, which is almost 80% of the American people -- those who have been cheated out of the American Dream by the obscene tax cut wealth transfers to the richest among us.
When you lazy no good cry baby millionaires finish your temper tantrums over the 91 % tax rate all other Americans will vote to impose upon you, and you leave this Country in droves, the rest of us hard working stiffs will get all your land holdings and capital improvements you leave behind on a tax sale or foreclosure, work together to build real prosperity, and rise into a new middle class like the Phoenix from the ashes.
Meanwhile, you millionarire tax evaders will be dodging from Country to Country as those who do not like or welcome Americans as much as we do will take EVERYTHING from you like the meat from the bones by a vulture.
It will be a fitting end to your defective genetic kind that would, like Scrooge, destroy the lives of most innocent and hardworking Americans if it would get you another greenback dollar.
The only "economic collapse" will be your own brought about by your own inbecility and greed, a product of your A-B-C-D dumb down tests.
It doesn't take a fast reader to graduate with a J.D./M.B.A. with several economics classes beyond Econ 101.
In sum, history has proven over and over, your economic formula NEVER wins the betterment of humanity.

And just exactly what tax rate is YOUR maggot ass paying? You in the 35% bracket? Or are you one of the leeches sucking this country dry and P+Ming about how everyone is mistreating you? But then the pigs will be glad to rob everyone else so you can smoke your weed and suck your booze. Filthy maggot leech swill!

[Rochesterian]

Mark wrote:

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And just exactly what tax rate is YOUR maggot ass paying? You in the 35% bracket? Or are you one of the leeches sucking this country dry and P+Ming about how everyone is mistreating you? But then the pigs will be glad to rob everyone else so you can smoke your weed and suck your booze. Filthy maggot leech swill!

Lighten up Mark

You are well aware income taxes on earnings $1milion and up was 91% during the 1950-60s. Such rate included strong incentives to re-invest in in a wide range of plausible business enterprises.

Since the Reagan-era tax cuts, the only result has been a massive accumulation of high maintenance crap that no one wants any more such as: massive homes, 30'+ motorhomes, motoryachts, 300HP+ sports-cars and SUVs.

Like they tried to warn Butch Cassedy before he want on a suicidal bank-robbing rampage, "Butch, get over it, them days is gone."

Likewise, your post Reagan tax-cut, trickle-down "me" days is gone forever more.

[History Class]

Why do you keep whining about Reagan? The tax cuts began with an earlier President who saw the crippling effects of high tax rates.

"Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. Surely the lesson of the last decade is that budget deficits are not caused by wild-eyed spenders but by slow economic growth and periodic recessions and any new recession would break all deficit records. In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."
-John F. Kennedy

[History Class]

Also the 90+% tax rate was on taxable incomes over $400,000 not $1,000,000 so you're off on your facts a bit.
Wikipedia is not really a valid source for factual information? Maybe read Kennedys appeal to Congress to lower the tax rate to 70%.
Which they did leading to a very stimulated economy.
It was Hoover who began raising the tax rates. While brilliant in many aspects of his life his taxation plans were not something to be proud of and pine for the good old days?

[Rochesterian]

History Class wrote:

Also the 90+% tax rate was on taxable incomes over $400,000 not $1,000,000 so you're off on your facts a bit.
Wikipedia is not really a valid source for factual information? Maybe read Kennedys appeal to Congress to lower the tax rate to 70%.
Which they did leading to a very stimulated economy.
It was Hoover who began raising the tax rates. While brilliant in many aspects of his life his taxation plans were not something to be proud of and pine for the good old days?

If you disagree with WIKIPEDIA, then cite to your source, rather than making unsupported accusations WIKIPEDIA is wrong.

This topic is about Civil War "Daughters of the Confederacy (DOC)."

Ironically, the DOC and the Daughters, Wives, Sons of the IRAQ War stand on EQUAL footing:
In both instances, it appears DADDY SOLDIER has/is/will be screwed by the VA BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE KITTY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH DECENT CARE.

Deal with it, most of you who freak-out at the concept of returning to the Eisenhower era 91% tax-rate on the wealthiest Americans are so UN-AMERICAN you choose to leave the scores of wounded Iraq War Veterans out of your "ME" trickle-down tax equation.

Those of you who plan to leave America when the tax-rate is raised ALOT are going to be very disappointed at the prices you actually get for the high-maintenance crap you currently own that no one wants (McMansions, Motor-Yachts, Motorhomes, chromed-up new "weekend" Harleys, 300HP+ sports cars & SUVs). BYE BYE!!!!!

[Yogi Bear]

History Class wrote:

Why do you keep whining about Reagan? The tax cuts began with an earlier President who saw the crippling effects of high tax rates.
"Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. Surely the lesson of the last decade is that budget deficits are not caused by wild-eyed spenders but by slow economic growth and periodic recessions and any new recession would break all deficit records. In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."
-John F. Kennedy

No one has said Kennedy was correct in his experiment that tax rates needed to be cut. in fact, history demonstrates otherwise. As a child living during the years pre-Kennedy and thereafter, I can say for a certainty that before all these fiscally irresponsible tax cuts, nowhere in America did I ever see:
1. homeless people;
2. people without adequate and sufficient medical care;
3. people not getting a free and appropriate public education;
4. people not able to easily afford a good college education on a aprt time shake and burger job after school;
5. people malnourished and starving (in our own Country);
6. people not able to afford a new car every couple years, gas to drive all day and night anywhere, and sufficient money to keep the car maintained in a safe condition;
7. people not able to afford to continue a vigorous space exploration program;
8. people not able to replace the space shuttle program without damaging our Country's space access for a four-year gap;
9. people not able to maintain a safe highway, bridge, and tunnel infrustructure in tip top shape;
10. some select few people living in gluttoness, opulent piggish-gravy palaces while waves of hopeless disabled men, women, and children die in squalor like we see in somalia and Darfur on America's streets;
etc etc etc

In sum, your mere ability to produce a famous quote does nothing to prove your point.

[Yogi Bear]

corr: "aprt" = part

[Yogi Bear]

History Class wrote:

Also the 90+% tax rate was on taxable incomes over $400,000 not $1,000,000 so you're off on your facts a bit.
Wikipedia is not really a valid source for factual information? Maybe read Kennedys appeal to Congress to lower the tax rate to 70%.
Which they did leading to a very stimulated economy.
It was Hoover who began raising the tax rates. While brilliant in many aspects of his life his taxation plans were not something to be proud of and pine for the good old days?

Obviously you can only read (somewhat), but don't have an M.B.A. Thus, your rather limited intellectual ability to comprehend that there have been several inflationary cycles since the $400 k you cite to the present time. Meaning, you failed to apply time-value of money concepts to your argument, which causes your argument to fail as sheer nonsense.

Additionally, the fact you're mpt a Hoover political supporter does nothing to save you failed argument.

Finally, if you research archived threads on Volokh.com , you will discover your assertion that Wikipedia and other blogs are 'not citable' is false. As I recall from reading several threads discussing actual cases decided by America's court there, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and the Unied States Supreme Court have authorized citation to, and themselves actually cited, bligs, including Wikipedia in actual existing appellate court opinions.

Cheers! And I can't wait until voters get their elected representatives to raise taxes on all your wealthy tax cheats back to the 91% on all income/asset accumulations over $1 million it will take to restore America and her National Security to Greatness.

[Yogi Bear]

corr: "the fact you're mpt a Hoover political supporter" = the fact you're not a Hoover political supporter

[Rochesterian]

Mark wrote:

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And just exactly what tax rate is YOUR maggot ass paying? You in the 35% bracket? Or are you one of the leeches sucking this country dry and P+Ming about how everyone is mistreating you? But then the pigs will be glad to rob everyone else so you can smoke your weed and suck your booze. Filthy maggot leech swill!

Do you consider the scores of U.S. Iraq war wounded VETS to be among "the leeches sucking this country dry?"

I bet you were among those pounding your chest after 9/11 to "kick-some-ass."

Guess what Holmes, wars cost lots of money. We have been at war for over 7 years and whether we quit now or stay, WE STILL NEED LOTS OF MONEY TO FOOT THE COSTS.

DEAL WITH IT, the rates on America's wealthiest population will raise ALOT (hopefully to 70%) to cover the cost of war, critical infrastructure and energy independence.

[Yogi Bear]

corr: "bligs" = blogs

[Yogi Bear]

Rochesterian wrote:

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If you disagree with WIKIPEDIA, then cite to your source, rather than making unsupported accusations WIKIPEDIA is wrong.
This topic is about Civil War "Daughters of the Confederacy (DOC)."
Ironically, the DOC and the Daughters, Wives, Sons of the IRAQ War stand on EQUAL footing:
In both instances, it appears DADDY SOLDIER has/is/will be screwed by the VA BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE KITTY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH DECENT CARE.
Deal with it, most of you who freak-out at the concept of returning to the Eisenhower era 91% tax-rate on the wealthiest Americans are so UN-AMERICAN you choose to leave the scores of wounded Iraq War Veterans out of your "ME" trickle-down tax equation.
Those of you who plan to leave America when the tax-rate is raised ALOT are going to be very disappointed at the prices you actually get for the high-maintenance crap you currently own that no one wants (McMansions, Motor-Yachts, Motorhomes, chromed-up new "weekend" Harleys, 300HP+ sports cars & SUVs). BYE BYE!!!!!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHA!!!

And, let me add: just wait until those wealthy tax evaders felling this Country in their 91% tax rate temper tantrums go to trade in their U.S. dollars for the currency of their new adopted-country, and discover ...

due to the extremely weak and falling dollar, it will take wheelbarrow loads of dollar bills in exhange for every since demonination Euro, Rupple, Yen, or other adopted-currency of choice.

[Yogi Bear]

corr: "felling" = fleeing

[History Class]

Cite my source?
How about the historical data from the IRS? Easy to find complete tax rates from each year imposed taxable income?
91% on a taxable income of $400,000 is the actual number? It is history? Insulting me by saying I didn't adjust for something has nothing to do with the fact you repeatedly post historically incorrect information.
The sun rose this morning, I can't cite a source except the fact that we all see it?
Admitting you've made a mistake is the first step.

[pudbert_Savannah GA]

Mark wrote:

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And just exactly what tax rate is YOUR maggot ass paying? You in the 35% bracket? Or are you one of the leeches sucking this country dry and P+Ming about how everyone is mistreating you? But then the pigs will be glad to rob everyone else so you can smoke your weed and suck your booze. Filthy maggot leech swill!

Don't even bother trying to reason or discuss anything logically with these socialistic liberal welfare promoters.

I made the mistake for too long trying to talk facts and logic with these types.. They just want MORE tax money to enable even MORE of their kind,, the generational welfare socialists.

AS if they're not leeching off of society enough already..

The part about the lowlife loser leeches working the land left behind was hilarious though.

I'm out..

[Accept defeat]

These women should be forced to paint confederate flags across their breasts and than turn their bodies over to the brothers in Pine Hills.

All's fair in love and war.

[pudbert_Savannah GA]

Accept defeat wrote:

These women should be forced to paint confederate flags across their breasts and than turn their bodies over to the brothers in Pine Hills.
All's fair in love and war.

Awww go home back up north you ignorant yankee biach..