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Fire Chief accused of violating county weapons policy

There are 31 comments on the WTSP Tampa Bay story from Mar 3, 2008, titled Fire Chief accused of violating county weapons policy. In it, WTSP Tampa Bay reports that:

The arrest of Hillsborough Fire Chief Bill Nesmith is a personal tragedy for the man who has headed the department since 1996, but it is not the first time there has been trouble at his home.

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Rick

Melbourne, Australia

#22 Mar 4, 2008
The Chief wrote:
Rick, no I don't know where you can find these answers. However I do feel that if it was an employee of the water department or traffic department that was arrested for these type of actions. I feel sure that the county administrator would relieve that person from duty until the court decided.
Then that employee would be charged with a violation of the county's policy ref: guns on county property.
We will see in the future. However my money is on the Chief, same as the Sheriff and his inquisition.
Nothing will come of it as the whole organization is corrupt. Just my opinion !
Being formerly certified in Law Enforcement based out of Central Florida, I was totally disturbed by the corruption and attempted cover up by the Sheriffs Department. I in no way shape or form am not saying the corruption is not all over the County. I proved many points shooting down the Deputies and their spouses on these threads proving fact that they could not dispute. Regarding this fire Chief again I am not saying corruption is not there whats so ever and I am against the County Officials as a whole. The thing is like I did with the deputies on the threads is to confront them with their very own equipment sort of speak. I have never been certified as a fire fighter however had training at the National Fire School in Ocala when I was going into Forestry moons ago. I had to have some training of the basics. I can not verify their requirements unfortunately like I can do any law enforcement officer. I am just basing my opinion on fact that I never viewed any denial so in my opinion it does not verify corruption unlike the County Administrator who failed to fulfill her duties. Her actions also show sighs of Corruption from him but again not verified corruption at this point that I viewed. Not that there is none, because more that likely there is. It is a waiting game at this point and if he is corrupted like Sheriff Gee and his department, I say just get rid of them all and be done with it.
a fierfighter

Holiday, FL

#23 Mar 4, 2008
tim, i'll learn to spell when you learn to seperate words (iguess). now lets stick to the issues. as far as internal affairs doing investigations they are normally requested by upper management. pat bean and chief nesmith are very tight that is why he was not put on leave until commisionar ferlita questioned this. pat was put on the spot. pat had to put him on leave when the commisioner questioned her. also why did the union not ask he be suspended? i wonder if it is because the union president, and pat bean, and the chief are buddy. buddies. check and im sure you will find that an internal affairs investigation has never been done before even though there has been sufficient cause for it. one example is the unqualified fire marshall that nesmith hired and then lied to the press about. he got away with that one
a fierfighter

Holiday, FL

#24 Mar 4, 2008
for minor infracions ff's are being given stiff reprimands and the union will nt potect them. i can see if they ar guilty but for vendettas this is not right. well qualified personel do not apply for promotions for fear if they make a minr mistake learning the new job they may be given an unjustifiable punishment. moral this weeked has to begrat with he fact that nesmth may loose his job but on the other had guys are nervous that sington or reynolds may become chief. that just means more corruption. does interna affairs exit.
Tampa Joe

United States

#25 Mar 5, 2008
Cant carry a weapon in a county car.....attention all thugs......soft target....county employees have no weapons.....
I'm sure there are some county employees that go into bad areas and not allowing them to defend them self’s against the bad guys is retarded!
Morgan and Morgan!!
Mister H

Windermere, FL

#26 Mar 5, 2008
This guy needs to run for Sheriff.
Rick

Melbourne, Australia

#28 Mar 5, 2008
a fierfighter wrote:
for minor infracions ff's are being given stiff reprimands and the union will nt potect them. i can see if they ar guilty but for vendettas this is not right. well qualified personel do not apply for promotions for fear if they make a minr mistake learning the new job they may be given an unjustifiable punishment. moral this weeked has to begrat with he fact that nesmth may loose his job but on the other had guys are nervous that sington or reynolds may become chief. that just means more corruption. does interna affairs exit.
Like in Court Cases. A defense attorney can win a criminal or traffic violations and shoot down sort of speak Police Officials if prepped in accordance utilizing the Florida State Statutes against the Police who utilize them in proving that the four steps required by law enforcement ( 1) Mere Suspicion 2) Reasonable Suspicion 3) Probable Cause ( Note : this step is the top step needed to fulfill taking of action)and 4) To Prove their actions beyond a reasonable doubt ). This task as in many cases must also comply at the same time inside or outside the Jail with the Matrix Levels of Use of Force if needed during any incident. The Attorneys also utilize what is referred to as Case Law ( example - Joe Smith Vs Florida then description) within the Courts to prove that similar activity to the case they are presenting at that time has previously entered the Courts and proven the wrong doing in Police Procedures. Attorneys also utilize the Police Internal Codes and Procedures at times. What I am saying is to defeat the Officials like this Fire Chief, like I pointed out the tools Attorneys use to defeat Law Enforcement is turning there own equipment against them. So being a fire fighter yourself, Do you have Code Numbers or any similar tools that can be questioned ? Apparently the Gun is for the County, how about State and or federal ? I can not answer these questions myself without intense research on the matter. From what I gather, the Chief is not respected even from the employees he has overseen and that alone sets off alarms per say in the eyes of the public for the reason that most fire fighters are respectable and honorable individuals of our society more so than Law Enforcement in general. Without having the tools against him like I said we are in a waiting game with this Chief unless the community utilizes tools to speed up the process. For the area of un moral activity with the affair with the female fire fighter, can not be a strong area into the proceedings except the area of deception. It can be brought up that if a individual in such a profession can lie to his own wife while having a affair, who is it not to say that the same individual would not lie within his Job ? I have to say, I seen this same un moral activity in Law Enforcement from a Lt. with a new female officer in the past that costed him greatly in the end. Any ways have a great day and I will check back.
keepitsimplestup id

Windermere, FL

#29 Mar 5, 2008
Rick wrote:
<quoted text>Like in Court Cases. A defense attorney can win a criminal or traffic violations and shoot down sort of speak Police Officials if prepped in accordance utilizing the Florida State Statutes against the Police who utilize them in proving that the four steps required by law enforcement ( 1) Mere Suspicion 2) Reasonable Suspicion 3) Probable Cause ( Note : this step is the top step needed to fulfill taking of action)and 4) To Prove their actions beyond a reasonable doubt ). This task as in many cases must also comply at the same time inside or outside the Jail with the Matrix Levels of Use of Force if needed during any incident. The Attorneys also utilize what is referred to as Case Law ( example - Joe Smith Vs Florida then description) within the Courts to prove that similar activity to the case they are presenting at that time has previously entered the Courts and proven the wrong doing in Police Procedures. Attorneys also utilize the Police Internal Codes and Procedures at times. What I am saying is to defeat the Officials like this Fire Chief, like I pointed out the tools Attorneys use to defeat Law Enforcement is turning there own equipment against them. So being a fire fighter yourself, Do you have Code Numbers or any similar tools that can be questioned ? Apparently the Gun is for the County, how about State and or federal ? I can not answer these questions myself without intense research on the matter. From what I gather, the Chief is not respected even from the employees he has overseen and that alone sets off alarms per say in the eyes of the public for the reason that most fire fighters are respectable and honorable individuals of our society more so than Law Enforcement in general. Without having the tools against him like I said we are in a waiting game with this Chief unless the community utilizes tools to speed up the process. For the area of un moral activity with the affair with the female fire fighter, can not be a strong area into the proceedings except the area of deception. It can be brought up that if a individual in such a profession can lie to his own wife while having a affair, who is it not to say that the same individual would not lie within his Job ? I have to say, I seen this same un moral activity in Law Enforcement from a Lt. with a new female officer in the past that costed him greatly in the end. Any ways have a great day and I will check back.
Man you are an absolute windbag. Are you running for President?
Rick

Tampa, FL

#30 Mar 5, 2008
keepitsimplestupid wrote:
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Man you are an absolute windbag. Are you running for President?
And you are clearly ignorant and a obvious moron. Are you running for the Sheriffs and or Fire Chief Position ? If so you may just get in.
MsBlondie53

New Port Richey, FL

#34 May 29, 2012
I was married to him and questioned him about this...he told me it was Theda, who he eventually married. She was Marc Stokes wife, Marc worked for Tampa Fire Rescue, and they were divorced at the time. However, Marc Stokes never worked for Bill Nesmith...it had to be another fire fighter's wife within Hillsborough County Fire Rescue. Do you want to come forward?
stalked by idiots

Langston, AL

#35 May 31, 2012
another view wrote:
Its about time his talking out both sides of his mouth catches up with him. He received a vote of no confidence from the HCFR firefighters. He even had an affair with the wife one of the firefighter who worked for him. Scum bag
MANY of the firemen are SWINE. They follow you around, they "somehow" get your identity on line and stalk you online and tell people (illegally) your personal data. This guy is both ugly and creepy but so are most of the fire sluts and half the blame goes TO HER. I hear they pass them around in the back of the ambulance trucks and that determines the pass/fail.

WORD from someone who KNOWS.

They're dirty and they go after ANYONE
stalked by idiots

Langston, AL

#36 May 31, 2012
Hey blondie, do you live in seminole?? Google seminole firefighter stalker. Do you know that fat pig? Sorry about your dismal experience with your "man" I'm sure you could have DONE BETTER !!!! Glad you got out.

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