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alsips finest

Chicago, IL

#24825 Dec 31, 2011
gays are against the bible. and the bible are what all people should live by. the only reason that gays get their privilages are because the president needs his votes. otherwise hed say the same thing. he puts his reelection ahead of the bible. this is not right. it is evil. no man should be with a man, and no woman should be with a woman. it is not the way God made it to be. it really sucks. wake up america. and do what is right.
alsips finest

Chicago, IL

#24826 Dec 31, 2011
- Statistically analyze prayer

The fact is, God never answers any prayers. The entire idea that "God answers prayers" is an illusion created by human imagination.

How do we know that "answered prayers" are illusions? We simply perform scientific experiments. We ask a group of believers to pray for something and then we watch what happens. What we find, whenever we test the efficacy of prayer scientifically, is that prayer has zero effect:

It does not matter who prays.
It does not matter if we pray to God, Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Ra or any other human god.
It does not matter what we pray about.

If we perform scientific, double-blind tests on prayer, and if the prayers involve something concrete and measurable (for example, healing people with cancer), we know that there is zero effect from prayer. Every single "answered prayer" is nothing more than a coincidence. Both scientific experiments and your everyday observations of the world show this to be the case every single time.

For example, this article says:

One of the most scientifically rigorous studies yet, published earlier this month, found that the prayers of a distant congregation did not reduce the major complications or death rate in patients hospitalized for heart treatments.

And:

A review of 17 past studies of ''distant healing," published in 2003 by a British researcher, found no significant effect for prayer or other healing methods.

This article from March, 2006 discusses the fact that the same conclusion was reached in another study:

In the largest study of its kind, researchers found that having people pray for heart bypass surgery patients had no effect on their recovery. In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications.

In this article we find an amazing quote where theologians and religious leaders declare that prayer has no actual effect:

Religious leaders will breathe a sigh of relief at the news that so-called intercessory prayer is medically ineffective. In a large and much touted scientific study, one group of patients was told that strangers would pray for them, a second group was told strangers might or might not pray for them, and a third group was not prayed for at all. The $2.4 million study found that the strangers' prayers did not help patients' recovery.

This is a remarkable example of "positive spin" -- religious leaders are "breathing a sigh of relief" because prayer has been shown to be meaningless. The fact that prayer is a total waste of time does not matter to them. It does not matter that all of Jesus' promises about prayer in the Bible have been proven completely false.

A peer-reviewed scientific study published in 2001 did indicate that prayer works. According to this article:

"On October 2, 2001, the New York Times reported that researchers at prestigious Columbia University Medical Center in New York had discovered something quite extraordinary. Using virtually foolproof scientific methods the researchers had demonstrated that infertile women who were prayed for by Christian prayer groups became pregnant twice as often as those who did not have people praying for them. The study was published in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine. Even the researchers were shocked. The study's results could only be described as miraculous."

This study was later proven to be completely fraudulent. However, everyone who cut out the original article in the NYTimes and posted it on their refrigerators still has that article as "proof" that prayer works.

This article entitled A prayer before dying uncovers another case where a "scientific study" of prayer is unmasked as fraudulent.

you r a sick human being. its people like you that keep me out of the dating scene. you can tell God this crap when you see him at the perily white gates. how do you like them apples. God is the reason we are here. So stop trash talking God.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#24827 Dec 31, 2011
alsips finest wrote:
gays are against the bible. and the bible are what all people should live by. the only reason that gays get their privilages are because the president needs his votes. otherwise hed say the same thing. he puts his reelection ahead of the bible. this is not right. it is evil. no man should be with a man, and no woman should be with a woman. it is not the way God made it to be. it really sucks. wake up america. and do what is right.
Sorry, dilbert, religion has no bearing on the law. Wake up - America is not a theocracy...

“Free your mind”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#24828 Dec 31, 2011
Seymore wrote:
<quoted text>
You said you quit. Liar!
What does it matter to you if I come back on here or not? I have something to defend here, you are here just to cause trouble.
SLY0203

Elgin, IL

#24829 Dec 31, 2011
All humans have a right to equality, liberty and happiness under our laws. All this debate is not helping anyone and continues to alienate anyone who is different.Religions are especially afraid of this because it means people have a mind of their own and sexuality cannot be controlled by them. Any law is not going to make someone gay or straight or whatever. Neither is being raised by a gay parent making kids gay. There is still too much misinformation in the world. I also believe that someone doesn't "all of a sudden become gay" even those who were "hetero" for many years. Mostly I think, they were forcing themselves to go along w/ what was "acceptable" in their culture, religion, and family. Really, who wants to be an outcast?? I can see why it would take years to come to terms with that type of thing because it affects their whole life.

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#24830 Dec 31, 2011
alsips finest wrote:
... it really sucks...
But in the good way.

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#24831 Dec 31, 2011
alsips finest wrote:
you can tell God this crap when you see him at the perily white gates.
The perily white gates? Just exactly where are those? I hope my teeth are gleaming when I get there.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#24832 Dec 31, 2011
alsips finest wrote:
gays are against the bible. and the bible are what all people should live by. the only reason that gays get their privilages are because the president needs his votes. otherwise hed say the same thing. he puts his reelection ahead of the bible. this is not right. it is evil. no man should be with a man, and no woman should be with a woman. it is not the way God made it to be. it really sucks. wake up america. and do what is right.
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A religious person, someone who does not know that the sole purpose of religion is to scam you out of your hard earned money in exchange for telling you whatever you want to hear about what will happen after you die.

The Catholic Church (as one example) has profited for nearly two millennia and continues to profit financially by making one feel guilty for ones biological urges and begging for any amount of money at every service they offer globally, even offering 'indulgences' in the middle ages, which amounted to being able to sin as long as you paid them for it afterward.

Is it pure coincidence that 'pray' and 'prey' are homonyms? How about 'prophet' and 'profit'?
(middle ages) peon: "Father I need forgiveness, last night I raped a 10 year old boy."

Priest: "Give me all your money and say two hail marys and you will be forgiven, my son."
peon: "I don't have any money."
Priest: "Give me all your livestock and say two hail marys."
peon: "But my family will starve to death."
Priest: "Then it's god's will. If you don't do this you'll roast in hell for all eternity!!1eleventeen"
--example of a religitard being taken advantage of by a priest
buy religitard mugs & shirts

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#24833 Dec 31, 2011
SLY0203 wrote:
All humans have a right to equality, liberty and happiness under our laws. All this debate is not helping anyone and continues to alienate anyone who is different.Religions are especially afraid of this because it means people have a mind of their own and sexuality cannot be controlled by them. Any law is not going to make someone gay or straight or whatever. Neither is being raised by a gay parent making kids gay. There is still too much misinformation in the world. I also believe that someone doesn't "all of a sudden become gay" even those who were "hetero" for many years. Mostly I think, they were forcing themselves to go along w/ what was "acceptable" in their culture, religion, and family. Really, who wants to be an outcast?? I can see why it would take years to come to terms with that type of thing because it affects their whole life.
It's nice to see and intelligent, compassionate thinker stop on by the thread.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#24834 Dec 31, 2011
Why Evangelicals Hate Jesus

Phil Zuckerman, a Professor of Sociology at Pitzer College in Claremont, CA, posted an excellent article recently, which I just had to share.~ Wicasta

The results from a recent poll published by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life reveal what social scientists have known for a long time: White Evangelical Christians are the group least likely to support politicians or policies that reflect the actual teachings of Jesus. It is perhaps one of the strangest, most dumb-founding ironies in contemporary American culture. Evangelical Christians, who most fiercely proclaim to have a personal relationship with Christ, who most confidently declare their belief that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, who go to church on a regular basis, pray daily, listen to Christian music, and place God and His Only Begotten Son at the center of their lives, are simultaneously the very people most likely to reject his teachings and despise his radical message.

Jesus unambiguously preached mercy and forgiveness. These are supposed to be cardinal virtues of the Christian faith. And yet Evangelicals are the most supportive of the death penalty, draconian sentencing, punitive punishment over rehabilitation, and the governmental use of torture. Jesus exhorted humans to be loving, peaceful, and non-violent. And yet Evangelicals are the group of Americans most supportive of easy-access weaponry, little-to-no regulation of handgun and semi-automatic gun ownership, not to mention the violent military invasion of various countries around the world. Jesus was very clear that the pursuit of wealth was inimical to the Kingdom of God, that the rich are to be condemned, and that to be a follower of Him means to give one’s money to the poor. And yet Evangelicals are the most supportive of corporate greed and capitalistic excess, and they are the most opposed to institutional help for the nation’s poor — especially poor children. They hate anything that smacks of “socialism,” even though that is essentially what their Savior preached. They despise food stamp programs, subsidies for schools, hospitals, job training — anything that might dare to help out those in need. Even though helping out those in need was exactly what Jesus urged humans to do. In short, Evangelicals are that segment of America which is the most pro-militaristic, pro-gun, and pro-corporate, while simultaneously claiming to be most ardent lovers of the Prince of Peace.

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#24835 Dec 31, 2011
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
The perily white gates? Just exactly where are those? I hope my teeth are gleaming when I get there.
Are stupid people attracted to religion or does religion make them stupid?

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#24836 Dec 31, 2011
TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
What does it matter to you if I come back on here or not? I have something to defend here, you are here just to cause trouble.
Glad to have you back. Yayyyyyyy!
real1974

Seoul, Korea

#24838 Dec 31, 2011

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#24839 Dec 31, 2011
real1974 wrote:
Thank you. We love you too.
people please

Wellsville, KS

#24840 Dec 31, 2011
Listen...it doesn't matter.....none of it......just mind your own business.....let people love who they want to love.....worry about yourself......don't be gossiping......don't tell lies.....don't go poking your nose in what ain't your business......its so simple.......but so hard for so many.....if you don't like it.......don't go around it.......if you disagree.....don't worry about it......its not your problem.....the bottom line is.......we live in a free country.......it is each and every persons right.....to live the way they want.....whether you like it.....or not.......all you have to do is......worry about what your doing......who you are loving.....and if you agree with yourself or not......they are not your problem.....you are your problem......get right with yourself.....they can only affect you......if you let them.....so don't......worry about you.......uno......numera..... ..one........yourself.......pe ace
Cool Hand Luke

Malang, Indonesia

#24841 Dec 31, 2011
It's just one more indication of the deceitful
nature of Gays, just one affirmation of the truth.
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TXgurl wrote:
<quoted text>
What does it matter to you if I come back on here or not? I have something to defend here, you are here just to cause trouble.
Cool Hand Luke

Malang, Indonesia

#24842 Dec 31, 2011
You describe how Gays have had it for to long and for those of us who have been tolerate are paying a steep price!
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Child molestation rates 20 times the normal population. Homosexuals attitude is if you didn't catch us than we didn't do it! They have dismissed the millions who have already been molested by them.They somehow think they no longer exist.

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Aids a gift from the Gay community has killed millions. One of it's first victims an 88 year old elderly lady who received a blood transfusion for after hip replacement. Many other innocent people who had nothing to do with their "Lifestyle"
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Aids which is almost 60 times the rate in Homosexuals as it is in
the normal population.
Each one of the homosexuals cost tax payers %300,000 and up to threat.
That is quite a bit of data posted on pages 1086, through 1091 of this thread. It will be reposed.
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Homosexuals also have the highest rate of anal cancer, herpes, hepatitis, syphilis and Shigellosis from eating feces.

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. Look at the general character of these people they attack God,Christians, the Church and any group or organization with moral values.
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Search YOU TUBE and any other internet site that carry's comments from Homosexuals and see will see they are vulgar in speech, how highly deceptive and deliberate the nature of these people is.
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Last some of us have relatives that are homosexuals and this is how they have got us to be tolerate of them.
Now either we hit back or get hit.

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You can choose to embrace your love one without endorsing this lifestyle. Make your love one welcome but go after the rest of them.
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Make sure everyone has the information about these people and make a dedicated effort to vote out any politician who has supported them.

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people please wrote:
Listen...it doesn't matter.....none of it......just mind your own business.....let people love who they want to love.....worry about yourself......don't be gossiping......don't tell lies.....don't go poking your nose in what ain't your business......its so simple.......but so hard for so many.....if you don't like it.......don't go around it.......if you disagree.....don't worry about it......its not your problem.....the bottom line is.......we live in a free country.......it is each and every persons right.....to live the way they want.....whether you like it.....or not.......all you have to do is......worry about what your doing......who you are loving.....and if you agree with yourself or not......they are not your problem.....you are your problem......get right with yourself.....they can only affect you......if you let them.....so don't......worry about you.......uno......numera..... ..one........yourself.......pe ace
Samatha

Houston, TX

#24843 Dec 31, 2011
They complained about equal rights but they are not equal! Just the lies and deception they have perpetrated about their lifestyle is justification to hold these people in check.

They prance around like privileged lords of the manor
when are at least seriously mentally challenged.

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#24844 Dec 31, 2011
My, but how pathetically desperate the trolls have become.

It's too bad that they don't have a blessed life like the rest of us.
Blair

Santa Clara, CA

#24845 Dec 31, 2011
You call them desperate and yet you are the one that:
Statistics for Gay FECES eating:
Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shi ...
Marengo Jon wrote:
My, but how pathetically desperate the trolls have become.
It's too bad that they don't have a blessed life like the rest of us.

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