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Talihina Truth Teller

Tucson, AZ

#1 Jun 16, 2010
People of Talihina. Please show your respect, loyalty and dollars to the 2 actual Fireworks stands in Talihina that are actually OWNED & OPERATED by actual Talihina people. The stand at the Big store is from Hance Fireworks in Tahlequah, OK and from what I understand the stand at the dentist office is not owned by Dr. Lake (like we've always been led to believe) but by some guy from out of town who rents the lot from him. So go out and buy this year from the lumber yard and the one by Donut Depot.
It is good to have variety but be loyal to people who respect the people of Talihina. Show them your support.
Just Sayin

United States

#2 Jun 17, 2010
Talihina Truth Teller wrote:
People of Talihina. Please show your respect, loyalty and dollars to the 2 actual Fireworks stands in Talihina that are actually OWNED & OPERATED by actual Talihina people. The stand at the Big store is from Hance Fireworks in Tahlequah, OK and from what I understand the stand at the dentist office is not owned by Dr. Lake (like we've always been led to believe) but by some guy from out of town who rents the lot from him. So go out and buy this year from the lumber yard and the one by Donut Depot.
It is good to have variety but be loyal to people who respect the people of Talihina. Show them your support.
Put up a big sign on your fireworks shack that says "locally Owned and operated Unlike the other stands" Let the public know, nothing wrong in doing that.. oh yeah, put an ad in the Talihina American stating the same, if it is true.
Just Sayin

United States

#3 Jun 17, 2010
Speakin of fireworks, what's the city rule on shooting off fireworks in the city limits?
Anonymous

Tucson, AZ

#4 Jun 18, 2010
I think the two local stands do have signs up on their stands about being locals. And what is the rules...usually depends on who is on duty. Shooting them around town is usually okay as long as it is too late.
Rhonda

Tulsa, OK

#5 Jun 18, 2010
Fireworks are allowed in town, but no bottle rockets or large cannon shots. Small and quiet is best. The noise ordinance does apply so please shoot them before 11pm. Remember we haven't had much rain, so be cautious!!

Are any of the stands in town, non-profit organizations?
Anonymous

Tucson, AZ

#6 Jun 22, 2010
Rhonda, what does it matter if any of them are for non-profit organizations or not? They are 2 families FROM Talihina trying to raise money to support their families. Is it any different than your 2 businesses that YOU run? Should we not come to your place of business because all of the profits do not go to a non-profit organization? Be real. Do you even BUY fireworks???
wellwell

Hodgen, OK

#7 Jun 22, 2010
I am more likely to go to a firework stand that is supporting a non-profit. Its something that I try to do at every oppourtunity. And something I would rather do. If a family has a business they run all the time, and i develop a relationship with them at their business, I may shop at their firework stand IF there are no non-profits.

You can get mad about it if you want to. But I have found that fireworks are generally marked up anywhere from 300% to 500% of what they cost wholesale. If you want me to shop at your stand you would need to be resonable with your prices.*I know the wholesale cost, therefore I know what I am willing to pay* If the prices are generally all the same, I would personally rather give that marked up price to a non-profit, if it isn't a non-profit and the prices are still marked up as such I would assume the people "greedy" and not shop at their stand. That is just how I feel about it.

I also would like to know if there are any firework stands being run by non-profit groups.
Its Me

United States

#8 Jun 22, 2010
You sound pretty high and mighty there "wellwell". I did not think the "anonymous" sounded so mad but you sure came out with a chip on your shoulder. I agree it is nice to help out non-profit groups but I see NOTHING wrong with helping citizens of our community either. And I doubt any of the stands in town mark up their fireworks 300-500%. The big city stands/tents do but not around here. Doesn't Walmart mark up their items? How about Treats & Treasures and their food/ice cream items? Any business marks up their prices...not out of greed but to make some money. Come out of your wonderland and enter the real world. There is nothing wrong with people trying to support their family and make a penny or two. Go on over to McAlester or Poteau and buy your fireworks, I am sure the people who own the stands in town won't mind losing your business.
our stand rocks

United States

#9 Jun 22, 2010
my grandpa has a great stnad and sells bottlerockets too. come see us and we don't makr up real high. we are good. we are ethe best.
wellwell

Hodgen, OK

#10 Jun 23, 2010
I am not high and mighty..I am honest. There is no chip on my shoulder. Yes, I expect a general markup...but I should expect not to be taken. You are right, there is nothing wrong with people wanting to support their families. But you can check my percentages by looking up wholesale firework cost online.(Make sure you find one that actually is a wholesaler, not one claiming to be a wholesaler"

I said I would RATHER give the money for the "Seasonal holiday" sale of fireworks to a non-profit, then I stated why. Does not make me a bad person.

No worries, I will find a fire-cracker stand in the Valley that supports a non-profit. It doesn't have to be in Talihina, although I try to buy "local" when I can, I figure from where I stand, Clayton, Yanush, BV, and Albion are also Local.
wellwell

Hodgen, OK

#11 Jun 23, 2010
On another note, if people want to be able to shoot off fireworks on the 4th, EVERYBODY needs to be praying for rain. Unless it rains a good bit between now and then, It will be to dry.

WAY TO DRY.

And "Our stand Rocks"..Bottle rockets are illegal in Oklahoma.(FOr good Reason) If your grandfather gets caught selling those he could pay some hefty fines. Its probably best you don't publically announce that, for his sake.
Talihina Trustee

Talihina, OK

#12 Jun 23, 2010
There is a NO POPPING FIREWORKS IN CITY LIMITS OF ANY KIND. IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT YOU CAN BUY THEM IN THE CITY LIMITS BUT YOU CAN'T POP THEM IN THE CITY LIMITS. BOTTLE ROCKETS ARE ILLEGAL TO SELL AND SHOULD NOT BE IN YOUR POSSESSION. HOWEVER, IF YOU CHOOSE TO POP FIREWORKS IN TOWN, AND NO ONE COMPLAINS, MORE THAN LIKELY YOU WILL NOT BE VISITED BY THE PD. BUT, IF THE PD RECEIVES A COMPLAINT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY AN OFFICER, AND THEY WILL PROBABLY CONFISCATE YOUR FIREWORKS. SO, BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO.
needtoknow

Hodgen, OK

#13 Jun 23, 2010
Hey "trustee" does a person have to get a permit to put a stand in Talihina? I know people have to have the tax info, but are these things regulated at all by the town? how do I find out what ordinances are in for these types of stands?

In other words: Who do I need to talk to in order to have a stand next year? If anyone?
Mother of 3

Tucson, AZ

#14 Jun 23, 2010
Hi, everyone. I own the stand next to Donut Depot on the main stretch of town. I buy all of my fireworks in Oklahoma from licensed Oklahoma dealers. I do mark up my fireworks but I never try to rip anyone off. I guarantee you that my stuff is not marked up 300-500%. In fact, I lowered my prices on several items this year because I got a better deal on them this year. I am in it to make money but I do live in Talihina and don't want to hurt my fellow townspeople in the process. If you want to sell fireworks in town, contact our mayor, Jackie England. You will have to pay city, state, & federal taxes on what you sell. You also have to meet the Oklahoma firemarshall's codes on where you set up your stand, distance from highways, electric wiring, etc. Unless you own commercial property, you will have to rent an area to set up your stand at also. If you have any other questions, I will be glad to help out anyway that I can.
And I agree with the rain issue. There is a chance of rain for Thursday and Friday and I am really wanting it to happen. It will be good for all of us.
Talihina Trustee

Talihina, OK

#15 Jun 23, 2010
Need to Know: I spoke with a few people and there doesn't seem to be a city ordinace on having a firework stand in town. My understanding is that there is a state permit that would have to be obtained. As far as where to put one, if a property owner allows you to place a fireworks stand on their property that's between you and them. The fire department will make sure all firework stands are closed at midnight of the last night of the holiday (e.g. midnight on the fourth of July, midnight on New Years, etc. I would start with the State of Oklahoma.
Mother of 3

Tucson, AZ

#16 Jun 23, 2010
The state license is $10 and you purchase it from your wholesaler.
Talihina Trustee, your information is mostly correct. You can actually sell fireworks all the way up through July 6. The state license allows you to sell fireworks from June 15-July 6 and Dec. 15-Jan 2. The State of Oklahoma website does have the codes, etc. you need to follow.
Trustee

Talihina, OK

#17 Jun 23, 2010
Mother of 3 wrote:
The state license is $10 and you purchase it from your wholesaler.
Talihina Trustee, your information is mostly correct. You can actually sell fireworks all the way up through July 6. The state license allows you to sell fireworks from June 15-July 6 and Dec. 15-Jan 2. The State of Oklahoma website does have the codes, etc. you need to follow.
I am familiar with the codes, but thank you for reminding me of the dates. I, for one, believe they should be closed on the last day of the holiday. Again, just my opinion. I know Talihina follows the state guidelines for firework stands and they are enforced by the fire department and the police department. The fact still remains that there are prohibited fireworks: Bottle rockets, stick rockets, cherry bombs, M-80's or any combination thereof or any fireworks not properly labeled as" Division 1.4, UN0336 or Class "C". Any prohibited foreworks found can and will be confiscated and turned over the the proper authorities.
Mother of 3

Tucson, AZ

#18 Jun 23, 2010
Exactly. I get people all the time wanting to buy bottlerockets or cherry bombs from us but I won't take the chance. It would be my luck we would get caught and I couldn't afford the fine. I buy only what is legal and sell only those items. I always close down after my last sell on the 4th. Too tired to open an extra day or two. :-)
Laura Kennedy

Talihina, OK

#19 Jun 23, 2010
Sorry to burst your little bubble but I do not think that ALL the codes are followed in talihina. LOL
Go Away

Talihina, OK

#20 Jun 23, 2010
Laura Kennedy wrote:
Sorry to burst your little bubble but I do not think that ALL the codes are followed in talihina. LOL
Little Miss Know-it-All, I bet that can be said about most towns and some volunteer orgainzations. This is the pot calling the kettle black.

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