Hundreds knock on doors of dropouts

Hundreds knock on doors of dropouts

There are 210 comments on the LA Daily News story from Sep 24, 2010, titled Hundreds knock on doors of dropouts. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Shielding her eyes from the blazing sun, Kim Courtney walked up to the black iron door and crossed her fingers that - this time - a student would answer her knock.

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Do you Question Me

Van Nuys, CA

#1 Sep 24, 2010
SWAT and Special Forces should have gone door to door and arrested whole families for wasting taxpaayer's money.
U R not so smart

Bangkok, Thailand

#4 Sep 24, 2010
Waste of time.

“America & LEGAL Americans 1st”

Since: Aug 08

Chatsworth

#5 Sep 24, 2010
How many gangbangers did they have laugh at them?
the gods must be crazy

Rosemead, CA

#6 Sep 24, 2010
NukeGlendale wrote:
For every single one of these juvenile delinquents, there is an even more worthless parent. Rarely two parents, mind you. If you had ANY business procreating in the first place, then you'd be a NORMAL AMERICAN. What does that mean? You graduated high school, took some college, don't do drugs or alcohol ($20 a week is acceptable on either), read at least 3 books a year (Bible counts), and think of parenting as God's greatest gift. Problem is, Mexican-American women let anything in their holes, and often the genetic rejects that Darwin would frown upon pop out, one right after another. Next thing you know, you have an entire society of lazy, fat, stupid people all tagging on walls for attention, dropping out of school left and right, and everyone just watches their tv, smokes their pot, eats their fast food, and gripes about how it's the government's fault. Look, the government didn't put Paco's meatstick in your holiest-of-holes. You showed irresponsibility in getting knocked up when you didn't plan on it, and you didn't try to reconcile the situation by becoming a better version of yourself. If you are a parent, your only responsibility should be to make sure you child has a better life than you did. That means you teach them discipline, good manners, social responsibility, and how to live by the rules of this fine country. I commend every one of these social workers and their nearly impossible task. God bless them and their dedication to doing what is right and needed in this sad, deteriorating society.
Nuke: I'm a single mom. His beloved father couldn't handle the pressure and split. On a clerical salary, I put my kid through private school because I didn't want him in school with all these kids we're spending so much getting back to a place they don't want to go. Now he's in collage, and I live in a dump so he can be there -- no government help here, not for me. Not all single moms are as you describe. Some of us would go to any length to raise God-fearing responsible kids. Just so's you know...
the gods must be crazy

Rosemead, CA

#7 Sep 24, 2010
Sorry. "college." I am educated enough to spell. Put myself through college at night. LOL!
Tiff

United States

#8 Sep 24, 2010
Some just don't have the brains or patience for school. They shouldn't be there distracting the serious students. Good riddance. Don't come back now, hear?
Valley resident

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Sep 24, 2010
Tiff wrote:
Some just don't have the brains or patience for school. They shouldn't be there distracting the serious students. Good riddance. Don't come back now, hear?
Absolutely right. Plus the schools have no programs for them. These kids need hands on experience like shop classes and vocational training something that is practical for them
old timer

San Jose, CA

#10 Sep 24, 2010
Valley resident wrote:
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Absolutely right. Plus the schools have no programs for them. These kids need hands on experience like shop classes and vocational training something that is practical for them
Some countries do have this kind of education policies. At about 15-16 yrs. old the academic minded are put toward a higher education path and others on a more vocational path. As long as the students are motivated and supported in their path they progress. In the good ole USA there are well paid Plumbers, Electricians, Mechanics, and so on.
Valley resident

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Sep 24, 2010
old timer wrote:
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Some countries do have this kind of education policies. At about 15-16 yrs. old the academic minded are put toward a higher education path and others on a more vocational path. As long as the students are motivated and supported in their path they progress. In the good ole USA there are well paid Plumbers, Electricians, Mechanics, and so on.
Why can't we do something so simple as this, we would say tons of money as well
Eric

Temecula, CA

#12 Sep 25, 2010
Thats what happens when you have so many anchor babies"children of illegal immigrants who do not value an education. So 65% of LA unified school district is Hispanic. Out of that 65%- 90% will not graduate high school. LA will become a hotbed of violence just like Mexico it a few years because you'll have a bunch of uneducated out of worker Hispanics living off of welfare and food-stamps. And this is the legacy that Mayor Villagrosa will live behind because he allows LA to be a safe haven for illegal immigrants!!!
Supplying da man

United States

#13 Sep 25, 2010
Valley resident wrote:
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Why can't we do something so simple as this, we would say tons of money as well
We can't because liberals want poor people dependent upon welfare to ensure that their votes go to the democrats who perpetuae this nonsense.
A Reptile Dysfunction

United States

#14 Sep 25, 2010
< < < "All of this is about creating an absolute sea change in how we address the dropout issue and how we value all students," said Zimmer ..... > > >

Wrong, Zimmer.
It's about the state ADA money for each "student" that shows up at school.

If it wasn't for that, teachers, administrators, principals, assistant principals, counselors, and all the other drones would say good riddance to the apprentice gangbangers who only take up space and disrupt classes anyway.
Ex Student

Pasadena, CA

#15 Sep 25, 2010
Why don't you idiots leave us the hell alone? Is there a law saying that we have to stay in the damn school? We are doing fine. If we can't find a decent job, we can always have a family and get on welfare.
waah

San Diego, CA

#16 Sep 25, 2010
These people going to get STUDENTS to go back to SCHOOL DO NOT CARE about the students. All they care about is how much MONEY the schools do not get when the students are not there.
waah

San Diego, CA

#17 Sep 25, 2010
Ex Student wrote:
Why don't you idiots leave us the hell alone? Is there a law saying that we have to stay in the damn school? We are doing fine. If we can't find a decent job, we can always have a family and get on welfare.
Only the LAZY PEOPLE are on WELFARE and have fifteen babies at TAXPAYERS expense and do not want to get a job. If you can not support yourself or your kids by getting a JOB you should not get ASSISTANC from WELFARE or any agency giving out anything. GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND SUPPORT YOURSELF
Norman Moore

Springfield, MO

#18 Sep 25, 2010
A lot of getting an education depends on personal determination and perseverance. You can sit in a classroom and even more so today and still not be educated. Thomas Edison was a dropout yet he went on to be one of the most prolific inventors ever.

In my personal case I went to a rural district in Ohio back in the 50s before the federal and state governments started doling out money to local schools. I learned because I wanted to not because of my teachers most of whom were marginal at best. I guess our buildings were OK, nothing fancy and no extras for sure. When I applied for College they were skeptical of my ability despite a 4.0 grade point, simply because my school was not well regarded.

I think the real concern here is not educating these kids but the fact that the state and federal subsidies are based on butts in seats. But these kids will never get an education because even though the schools have more money the instruction is no better and in many respects worse than what I got 50 years back. With no self determination and no parental support they are just wasting time and money just showing up every day. Hopefully some of them may someday realize the truth and go back for a GED but that will have to be a personal decision and no amount of pushing from others will make them any more interested.
Louweegie272

Buena Park, CA

#19 Sep 25, 2010
"It is extremely important that we respect our students enough to come to their homes and ask them to come back," Deputy Superintendent John Deasy said in between visits to homes in South Los Angeles.
This has got to be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard! Respect our students? Shouldn't it be the other way around? There are no consequences for anyone's actions. Everything is accepted. What are these kids going to do? What kind of jobs do they think they'll get? Standing outside of home depot with the illegal immigrant day laborers? Maybe that is ok for them? Sad state of affairs.
Rufus T Firefly

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#20 Sep 25, 2010
"According to the district, just 52 percent of all ninth-graders who enroll in high school will graduate four years later."

With all the billions of dollars spent on education, this is the return you get? Why should we give more? how much is enough? We hear the teachers "mafia" continually cry about how California ranks 48th in per student spending but the question remains, what is that magical number that will help graduation rates?

Administrators and directors who make six-figure incomes are at the core of this problem, cut back the waste and then use if for the classroom and even then you are not guaranteed of any success.
Old School

Honolulu, HI

#21 Sep 25, 2010
LAUSD is desperately looking to raise money to offset the giant deficit and as others have said, this is a temporary action to increase attendance money. Here's the law:

"California compulsory education law requires everyone between the ages of 6 and 18 years of age to attend school, except 16 and 17 year-olds who have graduated from high school or passed the California High School Proficiency Exam (CHSPE) and obtained parental permission to leave. Some students, however, violate compulsory education laws and have a pattern of unexcused absences. Although truancy and excessive absenteeism are not new problems, they cause costly, long-term problems for the students, school, and the community.

In 1974, the Legislature enacted Education Code (EC) Section 48320 to enhance the enforcement of compulsory education laws and to divert students with school attendance or behavior problems from the juvenile justice system until all available resources have been exhausted. EC Section 48321 provides several organizational structures for School Attendance Review Boards (SARBs) at the local and county level to create a safety net for students with persistent attendance or behavior problems. Although the goal of SARBs is to keep students in school and provide them with a meaningful educational experience, SARBs do have the power, when necessary, to refer students and their parents or guardians to court."

So how many parents of the absentees have been hauled to court? Like many teachers in the LAUSD, I've had many students who missed the whole semester save for a day or two. The administrators didn't seem to care despite their so-called attendance policy that had no teeth. If they were serious and not putting on a show, they would haul some "parents" to court so word would get around and there would be fewer absences.
Oscar

Las Vegas, NV

#22 Sep 25, 2010
We need to bait these underachieving dropouts back to school with the promise of Lowered Testing Standards, and Guaranteed Graduation with Honors status. Let the Remedial College classes try to bring them up to College Acceptable minimum qualifications. Thats what Public Schools all across America, especially in the inner-city schools with High Minority enrollment are now doing Nothing else seems to work. Self Motivation is NOT a Cultural Characteristic with Minorities. You need to REWARD First, to bait hardcore underachievers. Even then, sometimes the dividends are still not there, unless you try to elevate the value of a Dumbed-down Degree. That's like Obama printing more money, to cover the Deficit Spending he is doing. We'll all eventually pay bigtime, later down the road.

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