Pill bust made at Walgreens

Dec 14, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Monroe County Advocate

Staff photo by Tommy Millsaps From left: Athens Police Department investigators Detective Scott Webb and Detective Sgt.

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333www222

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Dec 25, 2011
 
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A pharmacy can step up drug screening and do background checks. That would certainly help. But it is going to happen and it's a matter of catching them. My husband has a pharmacy and had a person that worked for him for 16 years. He trusted her with his life and she was robbing him blind of drugs and money. I finally caught her but it tore him up to know that someone he trusted so completely would do that. So now, he makes sure he doesn't put his full trust in anyone that works for him. I hate the world has come to this. Years ago a handshake was a deal maker and men kept their word. Very sad that is not how it is anymore.
He must have been one hell of a dumbass to not notice medication and cash missing. You sure he wasn't also dipping in?

One primary thing that needs done by the state is that the paperwork on certain medications needs monitored closely.
How can $5000 worth of oxy go missing and nobody notices?
Because the state is not keeping track close enough.
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Dec 25, 2011
 
333www222 wrote:
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He must have been one hell of a dumbass to not notice medication and cash missing. You sure he wasn't also dipping in?
One primary thing that needs done by the state is that the paperwork on certain medications needs monitored closely.
How can $5000 worth of oxy go missing and nobody notices?
Because the state is not keeping track close enough.
Hear he had a problem, too.(if you know what I mean)
Interested observer

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Dec 26, 2011
 
All these comments are interesting and I don't know the answer to illegal distribution. However, the noose is about to tighten in that legislation is before the state legislature requiring all physicians (and others) that write prescriptions for these drugs and all pharmacists that fill them will be REQUIRED to sign off through the states database that they have checked to see if the person has had a controlled substance prescription in the past 30 days. At the current time a pharmacy only has to download the information to the state database. The next logical step would be require those who dispense them to verify their stock on hand electronically each and every time they dispense it. But I don't know if this will curtail illegal distribution or just make it more difficult for those that do need the medications to obtain them.
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Dec 26, 2011
 
The state legislature should first the following:

Is it ILLEGAL to have more than one prescription for the same drug in a 30 day period? I dare say at the current time it is not. So if a doctor or a pharmacist checks that database...should they deny your prescription on their personal opinion rather than established law?

Is it ILLEGAL to have prescriptions written by more than one doctor? Again, at the current time I don't think so unless you are sending the bill to Tenncare or some government related payer. The state legislature should clearly state what is illegal and not illegal and then require doctors and pharmacists to enforce it in compliance with what the law states. The legislature should not simply say to pharmacists and physicians 'you take a look and verify it every time and then in your personal opinion do whatever you want...and if our opinion doesn't agree with yours we might come to put you in jail". Let the law be clear and consistent.
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Dec 26, 2011
 
Now as to the state database requiring pharmacies to electronically submit their quantity of certain drugs on hand when they fill prescriptions, I personally think that is a good idea. That way the state can keep a running count of what is out there and can go in and check periodically. The same goes with doctors and others who keep these drugs in their offices.

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Vonore, TN

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Dec 27, 2011
 
Interested observer wrote:
The state legislature should first the following:
Is it ILLEGAL to have more than one prescription for the same drug in a 30 day period? I dare say at the current time it is not. So if a doctor or a pharmacist checks that database...should they deny your prescription on their personal opinion rather than established law?
Is it ILLEGAL to have prescriptions written by more than one doctor? Again, at the current time I don't think so unless you are sending the bill to Tenncare or some government related payer. The state legislature should clearly state what is illegal and not illegal and then require doctors and pharmacists to enforce it in compliance with what the law states. The legislature should not simply say to pharmacists and physicians 'you take a look and verify it every time and then in your personal opinion do whatever you want...and if our opinion doesn't agree with yours we might come to put you in jail". Let the law be clear and consistent.
Yes and no. It all depends on the situation. The actually definition of doctor shopping by State law is someone that KNOWINGLY and DECEITFULLY gets a controlled substance from 2 different doctors within 30 days. So say someone goes to the emergency room and the doc there writes them a couple prescriptions, one for a narcotic. In most ER's the prescription says on it that ALL the prescriptions must be filled. If that person is on contract with a pain clinic and they get the prescription filled because they needed the other medications on that prescription then no, it would not be considered doctor shopping. The law is vague in a lot of areas so each individual circumstance has to be investigated as to whether it was truly doctor shopping or not.

The problems with the new regulations is that they were written by people who have no idea about chronic pain or pain management. Regulations are needed but the current ones are not going to work. And the bottom line is that is someone wants to get high they will get high. They can get all the oxycodone off the street and those people will just find something else.

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Dec 27, 2011
 

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333www222 wrote:
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He must have been one hell of a dumbass to not notice medication and cash missing. You sure he wasn't also dipping in?
One primary thing that needs done by the state is that the paperwork on certain medications needs monitored closely.
How can $5000 worth of oxy go missing and nobody notices?
Because the state is not keeping track close enough.
Actually dumbass, he was doing a narcotic count every THREE MONTHS. The problem was the person knew when he was going to do a narcotic count and would change the numbers in the computer to match. As far as the money goes, she was taking insurance checks before my husband ever even saw them so there was never any documentation that the money ever came in. She had his complete trust and was slick. She knew how to do it without getting caught quickly. But I did catch her and that's what matters.

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Dec 27, 2011
 
Interested observer wrote:
Now as to the state database requiring pharmacies to electronically submit their quantity of certain drugs on hand when they fill prescriptions, I personally think that is a good idea. That way the state can keep a running count of what is out there and can go in and check periodically. The same goes with doctors and others who keep these drugs in their offices.
The database has been up and running for four years now. It is a good resource but it is not perfect by no means. Sometimes the pharmacies will put the wrong doctors names in for prescriptions so it looks like the person has gone to another doctor. Pharmacies are required to send in their reports twice a month...the 1st and the 15th, so there is a two week lag where a prescription might not show up when the database is checked. But it's like anything else, the bugs have to be worked out. Plus when humans are involved there will be errors.

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Dec 27, 2011
 
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Hear he had a problem, too.(if you know what I mean)
First off, if you are so smart you would know that sharing medical information about another person is a crime. And second, you have no clue what you are talking about so before you say something about someone you might want to check your facts.

Lastly, MANY people, including medical professionals have had issues in their past. It does not make them bad people, it makes them human just like everyone else. It is what they do to fix the problems or issues that matters. If you are going to hold a persons past against them you might want to look in the mirror before you point fingers. EVERYONE has something in their past that they regret. Some things are worse than others. I'm glad I'm not like you....a person who judges someone they don't even know. That's sad.
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Dec 27, 2011
 
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That happens too. Been there done that and I'm not ashamed of it. Nice try though.
You oughta be ashamed of it!
Paps

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Dec 27, 2011
 
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First off, if you are so smart you would know that sharing medical information about another person is a crime. And second, you have no clue what you are talking about so before you say something about someone you might want to check your facts.
Lastly, MANY people, including medical professionals have had issues in their past. It does not make them bad people, it makes them human just like everyone else. It is what they do to fix the problems or issues that matters. If you are going to hold a persons past against them you might want to look in the mirror before you point fingers. EVERYONE has something in their past that they regret. Some things are worse than others. I'm glad I'm not like you....a person who judges someone they don't even know. That's sad.
Wouldn't have known a thing about the poor guy if you hadn't got on here earlier and told everyone. Yeah, I've got things I regret, but have learned to keep my mouth shut and just try to do better. No need in ME reminding everyone of the fool things I have done!

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Dec 28, 2011
 
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You oughta be ashamed of it!
I regret some of the things that I did. But if you knew ANYTHING about recovery, which you obviously don't, guilt and shame have to be let go of or it will lead to a relapse. The things about me would not have been on here had SOMEONE ELSE not posted it. I did not post it but I am not ashamed to talk about it. If what I went through can help someone else then great. I am not going to hide behind shame and guilt over past issues. That's stupid.

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Dec 28, 2011
 
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Wouldn't have known a thing about the poor guy if you hadn't got on here earlier and told everyone. Yeah, I've got things I regret, but have learned to keep my mouth shut and just try to do better. No need in ME reminding everyone of the fool things I have done!
Again dumbass, I did not post it. Someone else did. People who can't keep their noses out of other peoples business. Just like you. Why bring it up?? Because you want to stick your nose into anothers business and act better than thou. I CHANGED my life for the better. What I did and what happened to me made me a better person. If you don't like it then I really don't care. If your life is so sad that you have to say things about others then I truly feel sorry for you.
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Dec 29, 2011
 
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Again dumbass, I did not post it. Someone else did. People who can't keep their noses out of other peoples business. Just like you. Why bring it up?? Because you want to stick your nose into anothers business and act better than thou. I CHANGED my life for the better. What I did and what happened to me made me a better person. If you don't like it then I really don't care. If your life is so sad that you have to say things about others then I truly feel sorry for you.
You are pitiful...keep passing out them pills. I am proud of your recovery. And there ain't no need in replying to me....I am outta here. You try to dominate every site you are on am sick of your cursing,too. What a lady.. Ain't working with me....goodbye and hope you continue your successful rehab.

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Dec 29, 2011
 
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You are pitiful...keep passing out them pills. I am proud of your recovery. And there ain't no need in replying to me....I am outta here. You try to dominate every site you are on am sick of your cursing,too. What a lady.. Ain't working with me....goodbye and hope you continue your successful rehab.
My apologies for the cursing, but the pills are not the problem. The problem is the people that abuse them. There are people that don't care that patients can actually have their pain relieved by them. All they want to complain about is the problem, without trying to work to find a solution that works for everyone. If you truly are "outta here" then you won't see this but if you do come back, which most do, I at least wanted to say I'm sorry for calling you a name. I try to refrain from that but when people bring my family into this conversation it makes me angry. I said one thing a while back about my husband, that he is wonderful, and some evil person brings up something about his past. Bottom line is this. My past, his past, and nobody elses past is anyones business. It is who the person is TODAY that is important in my book. Regards and have a happy new year.
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Jan 16, 2012
 
I would go to Walgreens in Athens and they were so rude to me when I would be picking up meds for my husband. I just wonder if it wasnt the girl who got busted.

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Jan 16, 2012
 
Erin wrote:
I would go to Walgreens in Athens and they were so rude to me when I would be picking up meds for my husband. I just wonder if it wasnt the girl who got busted.
Could be. In so many instances, the person that is abusing is also treating the patients/customers that are on pain meds like crap. Happened at my husbands store. The person worked for him for 16 years and treated the ones that came in with pain medication prescriptions like dirt...then we found out she was stealing pills and forging prescriptions herself. I am no longer angry at her. I was very angry at first that she would take the trust and love that my husband gave her and run all over it. But then I remember the disease of addiction is cunning, baffling and powerful, and then I feel sorry for her. Sorry that when we got her the help she needed she only went to keep my husband from pressing charges. She needed to be there for her own health.
I just called the Walgreens in Alcoa today and gave them hell about treating one The man is dying and they treated him like he was a piece of crap. If I hear of a place doing that they hear from me!
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Jan 17, 2012
 
It is true that addiction is "cunning, baffling, and powerful". And I am sure the woman PS spoke of did "take the trust and love...and run all over it". Anybody who has had an addict in their family knows this to be true. Addicts always take the most advantage of those closest to them. Perhaps she did go for help only so she wouldn't be charged. Maybe she has not yet got it that she has a real problem...but then maybe she is one step closer to getting there.
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Jan 17, 2012
 
Does anyone know who the girl was?
Was she using or selling?

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Jan 18, 2012
 
Interested observer wrote:
It is true that addiction is "cunning, baffling, and powerful". And I am sure the woman PS spoke of did "take the trust and love...and run all over it". Anybody who has had an addict in their family knows this to be true. Addicts always take the most advantage of those closest to them. Perhaps she did go for help only so she wouldn't be charged. Maybe she has not yet got it that she has a real problem...but then maybe she is one step closer to getting there.
I'm sure she had to have gotten something out of it. Maybe not everything she needed but the seed was planted and if she ever finds herself in a bad position again she will know there is help out there she can get. And I hope she does. For her and her family's sake. I've been there. I know what it does to the people directly around the addict. I didn't know it at the time, or maybe I did and didn't care because the "cunning, baffling and powerfulness" of the disease. But I know now....and I wouldn't do that again to my family for anything. Plus I would never survive another relapse. I know that too.

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